Browse Forums Kitchen Appliances 1 Feb 03, 2011 1:57 pm I'm trying to source a rangehood that is very similar to the ones you would find at a fish & chips shop (for instance). I've heard that you can get this type for your home kitchen that you put a door in front of and then tilt the door (up) to turn the rangehood/fan on. They are supposed to have excellent extraction. Also thought that they were Australian made. Re: Rangehood 2Feb 03, 2011 4:16 pm Do you mean something like this? This one is Miele DA186 for $899, also Qasair and I think robinhood make them too. They are not as popular as they used to be. Re: Rangehood 3Feb 03, 2011 4:35 pm I would be concerned that a rangehood for a commercial kitchen would be too noisy in the home? I haven't used rangehoods in any of the houses we've lived in because they sounded like aeroplanes taking off, hate to think what a commercial one might be like. Re: Rangehood 4Feb 04, 2011 1:07 pm Schweigen, Qasair and Whispair all make ranges with externally mounted motors.
The external motor is the feature you are after. they are all very quite (My soon to be Schweigen is rated to 7db where the old one is 70db) @kb46 They are much quieter than regular ranges. Schweigen do up to 1600CFM of flow. They're a little more $$ than a Bosch/Miele/other but they are just so quiet I don't care about the $$. Any of those 3 brands would do an excellent job, they do have varying styles though. Re: Rangehood 5Feb 04, 2011 1:39 pm chrisandkate Schweigen, Quasair and Whispair all make ranges with externally mounted motors. The external motor is the feature you are after. they are all very quite (My soon to be Schweigen is rated to 7db where the old one is 70db) @kb46 They are much quieter than regular ranges. Schweigen do up to 1600CFM of flow. They're a little more $$ than a Bosch/Miele/other but they are just so quiet I don't care about the $$. Any of those 3 brands would do an excellent job, they do have varying styles though. chrisandkate - what Schweigen rangehood are you getting? Re: Rangehood 6Feb 07, 2011 8:56 am We're getting the WM2190. It's a stainless canopy type. They also have under mounts. but we're not having over heads at all and even then we'd still get that particular one. 60cm/600mm 90cm/900mm They are much more effective than a regular rangehood set up. More expensive than the cheapies, but around the same as Bosch, Miele, Neff, other etc... Re: Rangehood 7Feb 07, 2011 9:22 am chrisandkate We're getting the WM2190. It's a stainless canopy type. They also have under mounts. but we're not having over heads at all and even then we'd still get that particular one. 60cm/600mm 90cm/900mm They are much more effective than a regular rangehood set up. More expensive than the cheapies, but around the same as Bosch, Miele, Neff, other etc... So your getting this rangehood plus taking the isodrive motor option to achieve the 1600 cubic metre airflow? Re: Rangehood 8Feb 07, 2011 9:45 am All of the motors are external mounted "ISODRIVE" motors. They have three ratings, 650CFM, 1100CFM and 1600CFM (Cubic feet per minute) The three motors all have different ducting set ups. I think its 150mm for the 650CFM, 200mm from the base to the splitter then 150mm each side for the 1100CFM and 200mm all the way for the 1650CFM. We haven't decided on which one to get as yet, but my preference is the biggest one. It'll come down to how much $$ is left when we need to pick one, but it will be a Schweigen thats for sure. Re: Rangehood 9Feb 07, 2011 12:00 pm 4sterftg I'm trying to source a rangehood that is very similar to the ones you would find at a fish & chips shop (for instance). I've heard that you can get this type for your home kitchen that you put a door in front of and then tilt the door (up) to turn the rangehood/fan on. They are supposed to have excellent extraction. Also thought that they were Australian made. Try Qasair. They are Australian made and are universally recommended. I think they will also make to oreder if you have something particular in mind (but expect to pay for it of course.) Re: Rangehood 10Feb 11, 2011 3:06 pm Schweign & Whispair are the ones that do EXTERNAL motors
As a standard listed item Qasair don't make EXTERNAL motors - Yet they are still very quiet internally The things to consider between Qasair Vs Silent Hoods (Schweigen or Whispair) 1. You need to purchase metal duct pieces for all Qasairs for them to work correctly (Extra Cost) and to NOT void warranty 2. 3 Year warranty on Qasair units/motors VS Silent Hoods - 3yrs on unit + 10 YEARS ON MOTOR 3. Pricing of hoods - Compare the different prices - Qasair starting around $1500rrp for concealed & $2000rrp for canopies + ducting Silent Hoods can start under $1500 including ducting 4. All 3 Brands motors are MADE IN GERMANY - Qasair make shells in Australia - Silent Hoods overseas 5. With Schweigen or Whispair it doesnt matter what design you go for - They all work exactly the same Key thing to the Silent Extenal Motors - It is a consent draw all the way to the motor (outside) - Would HIGHLY recommend Re: Rangehood 11Feb 12, 2011 3:33 pm appliance guru 3. Pricing of hoods - Compare the different prices - Qasair starting around $2000 + ducting - Silent Hoods can start under $1500 including ducting We got our Qasair hood for $1350. And they did have options for external motors. Re: Rangehood 12Feb 14, 2011 12:36 pm Melrich - Sorry I was talking specifically about Canopies not undercupboard or Slideout rangehoods In Qasair Undercupboards/ Slideouts you can get around $1299 on special (Single Motors) + METAL DUCT PIECES Also you will find QASAIR don't do External motors as STANDARD they do an INTERNAL motor and then an External or Remote motor as an OPTIONAL EXTRA via Special Order And this would work out much more expensive......... Re: Rangehood 13Feb 18, 2011 6:02 am appliance guru Melrich - Sorry I was talking specifically about Canopies not undercupboard or Slideout rangehoods In Qasair Undercupboards/ Slideouts you can get around $1299 on special (Single Motors) + METAL DUCT PIECES Also you will find QASAIR don't do External motors as STANDARD they do an INTERNAL motor and then an External or Remote motor as an OPTIONAL EXTRA via Special Order And this would work out much more expensive......... I was talking about canopies too. We got our Qasair canopy for $1350. You are right about ducting that costs extra and you must make sure you check what ducting you require because it can get expensive. I am not sure if their external motors are standard or optional, we were offered the option but they didn't itemise if that was standard or not. Why I think they are worth looking at in this case is because they are (or seem to be) more customisable that the other brands. They basically said to us "tell us what you want and we will do it". Re: Rangehood 14Feb 18, 2011 11:52 am You can get a few brands that do custom made hoods, yet at a cost - Qasair is one of the best at doing that. All i am saying is comparing value and Silent External vs Internal motors (Different extraction systems) Also you will find Qasair when they offer external motors - They are normally offering a remote motor which means there is a motor within the unit + one towards the exit(2nd Motor) This is due to being a fair distance away or due to a few bends. The reason they do this is because an internal motor sucks in and blow out and get weaker to the exit point where as external motors will suck/extract all the way to the exit point being the motor. In short - The 3 BEST brands to buy in specialist hoods are Schweigen, Whispair & Qasair! Re: Rangehood 15Feb 23, 2011 8:48 pm Has anyone used Sirius before? They also come with outside motor. I feel that the make is better than Schweigen (which is the brand I first considered). It has 1200m3/hr extraction rate and is selling in Harvey Norman. Now I'm tossing up between Sirius and Qasair. Re: Rangehood 16Feb 24, 2011 7:16 am meatpie Has anyone used Sirius before? They also come with outside motor. I feel that the make is better than Schweigen (which is the brand I first considered). It has 1200m3/hr extraction rate and is selling in Harvey Norman. Now I'm tossing up between Sirius and Qasair. I have not heard of Sirius before. You should google the brand and see what you can find. You need to be careful quoting extrcation rates. Qasair (and probably Schweigen) quote their extraction rates at the hob. Many brands quote their extraction rates at the filters. Re: Rangehood 17Feb 24, 2011 10:02 am Regarding the Shweigen, be aware that the manufacturer recommends that ducting be at least 3 metres long otherwise you will get noise from the motor. I am not sure about the Whispair. I am building a 2 story home and the at best the length of ducting I could obtain is about 1.5m unless I somehow run the duct up through the top floor. It's a shame because I like the look and sound of the Schweigan. Looks like the Qasair may the one. Re: Rangehood 18Feb 24, 2011 2:28 pm Sirius are also about to be sold by E&S Trading. I was told this buy the sales lady when we bought our appliances last year. I had a look at their site but I couldn't find one I liked the look of. Also couldn't find one to go and test the noise level of. All of the ones I can find on the Siriushoods.com site state the dBA@61. most of the shelf ranges produce similar noise, so if that is true they'll be just as bad as regular hoods. I could be wrong but his is the only info I can get from Sirius. Re: Rangehood 19Feb 24, 2011 3:13 pm How much is it to install this type of r/hood that has all the doo-dads on the outside of the house? Re: Rangehood 20Feb 27, 2011 8:07 pm With Both Schweigen & Whispair yes they are recommended to be installed around 3-4metres away Yet if you have no choice and need to go closer then they start a little more noise yet are still very good. A couple of factors will vary this - What type of extract the motor has and what speed it is at. A lot of people have no choice and have installed them 1-2metres away - Yet with a little more noise The most important thing here guys is the way they EXTRACT which is the point of hood - The great advantage is that there is very minimum noise involved. Schweigen/Whispair Silent hood use a consent draw to the exit point - Other units blow out and get weaker to exit point. star-anise Install of any good hood will be similar as the installation principal is the same - Explained in my previous post. Very minor difference as i have installed Qasair, Schweigen, Whispair & Lots of standard set up brands - Cost varies per job - normally $250 - $600 for average set ups - Varying factors involved, more work obviously raises that. Prices shouldnt really vary for any standard hood that is installed CORRECTLY (Being ducted outside to a roof cowl or wall vent) BillMac Motor noise at 1.5metres away will still be quieter then a Qasair as long as there is a minor S bend in the ducting for the Schweigen for no ECHO (Yet both will be fantastic extracting units & quiet) Melrich NETT Extract ratings are always done at filters (NOT at the bench/cooktop) |