Browse Forums Interior Decorating Lounge Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 21Jan 26, 2014 10:58 am I just noticed all the points at the front of the room in the bulkhead, will you be putting an entertainment unit there? If so I would be looking to put the centre in that cabinet and angle it upwards a little with a small wedge. Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 22Jan 26, 2014 11:01 am I know you've already painted it all, but for those coming in to this thread late and wanting to know what to do if they are doing their own HT room, I would forget the colour scheme in the rest of the house, and just do the HT room in appropriate colours. You've put in a HT room to escape the outside world, and are no doubt trying to achieve some sort of theatre experience, paint it the colours that maximise those benefits of the room, such as dark ceiling (even star ceiling if you can afford it), heavy dark curtains across the windows if you don't want to physically block them out. Don't be afraid of reselling the house in the future, because anyone who doesn't like what you've done in the HT room, chances are is that they really don't want a HT room in the first place. Those that do want a HT room in their house will appreciate the efforts to achieve the HT experience, and they will pay the premium for it. If I were in the market to buy a house already on the market that had a HT room in the same colour tones as the rest of the house, I would walk away from it. However if it was done properly I would certainly take a second or more look at it, because it would show that the owner considered it properly in the first place. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 23Jan 26, 2014 11:15 am I also just wanted to say looking at your blog that your house looks amazing! To be honest, looking at all your choices and finishes (wow) I'm a little surprised at the speakers you have chosen. But wow, you must be very proud of your house, great work. Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 24Jan 26, 2014 11:37 am Eli_ I just noticed all the points at the front of the room in the bulkhead, will you be putting an entertainment unit there? If so I would be looking to put the centre in that cabinet and angle it upwards a little with a small wedge. Hi Eli, yes we are putting a cabinet there,, we are moving the one from our family area in to the HT. The installer is a HT installer not a sparky. Originally the 3 front speakers were going across the ceiling in front of the bulkhead, but we have a beam that runs from the front of the room to the back, straight through the centre, so the centre speaker would need to move either side and be off centre. He then suggested putting it above the screen on the face of the bulkhead facing out and having the other 2 matching on the sides, but he can't do that either due to another beam. our only choice was to then put it up in the bulkhead pointing down - but I see what you're saying, so perhaps we centre the speaker in the middle of the back wall centred under the screen and above the unit? we have a 3 seater auto recliner couch running across the back wall so then all front speakers will be facing us? All speakers are from H.Norman - we took exactly what they had set up in their Auburn HT in store - the sub, the screen (except we went the fixed not automatic due to the canister size) and the speakers and amp - it sounded so amazing in there but their speakers were all in the ceiling - so perhaps if we just centre the middle speaker on the front wall that will help?? bpratt I know you've already painted it all, but for those coming in to this thread late and wanting to know what to do if they are doing their own HT room, I would forget the colour scheme in the rest of the house, and just do the HT room in appropriate colours. You've put in a HT room to escape the outside world, and are no doubt trying to achieve some sort of theatre experience, paint it the colours that maximise those benefits of the room, such as dark ceiling (even star ceiling if you can afford it), heavy dark curtains across the windows if you don't want to physically block them out. Don't be afraid of reselling the house in the future, because anyone who doesn't like what you've done in the HT room, chances are is that they really don't want a HT room in the first place. Those that do want a HT room in their house will appreciate the efforts to achieve the HT experience, and they will pay the premium for it. If I were in the market to buy a house already on the market that had a HT room in the same colour tones as the rest of the house, I would walk away from it. However if it was done properly I would certainly take a second or more look at it, because it would show that the owner considered it properly in the first place. I haven't painted anything yet but you are absolutely right in what you say and I am going this way. Every HT I have walked in to is like - wow! it's the feel and atmosphere so yes I completely agree that it's its own haven.. Our paint is practically black but a grey/black (not brown black) so that's as far as matching the rest of the house that's a light grey and white. I am going to get all walls in full strength but was thinking of going half on the cornice and ceilings - thoughts? half or full all the way?? would love the halogen lights but a display home I walked through had them and the quote was about $15k, then I was like forget it! our couch is a light grey and then will accent with the pictures and cushions. we will have white shutters behind, which are essential for the outside look to match the other 9 windows across the front so must be white shutters, but eventually when money permits, I will get black curtains to cover these on the inside. I am so confused.... hope this all works out ok. Blog: http://cbcbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Building Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=62155 Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 25Jan 26, 2014 11:47 am Eli_ I also just wanted to say looking at your blog that your house looks amazing! To be honest, looking at all your choices and finishes (wow) I'm a little surprised at the speakers you have chosen. But wow, you must be very proud of your house, great work. Thanks Eli - there is still a load to do but it all takes time. we should be able to knock over a few major projects in the next couple of months - like driveway and aircon and built in wood fireplace to finish off the sunken lounge. With regards to the speakers - really?? I heard Jamo were good - they are Jamo 6.5CST (not CS) if the 'T' makes any difference. to be honest - as mentioned above we just took everything in the HNorman display theatre and the sound in there was incredible so if we get that replication - I would be more than happy. I am sure there are bigger and better but I didn't think there was anything wrong with the sound of these ones - in fact it was so great we walked out with the lot (which was not the plan)! Blog: http://cbcbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Building Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=62155 Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 26Jan 26, 2014 12:44 pm Lilac would love the halogen lights but a display home I walked through had them and the quote was about $15k, then I was like forget it! Gotta watch out for halogens. This is a photo the real estate photoshopped when we sold our old house. The HT room was in a converted 2 car zincalume garage. You will notice all the halogens that are in there, but it's basically to show you that you can put any colour you like in your HT room, and anyone who buys the house later will only 'mark your house down' if they do not want a HT. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The colours I have in there probably won't suit many people, but that how I wanted it.... you might notice the suede effects paint on the ceiling, but it is much darker than it appears in that photo... I think it was called Charcoal Mist or something... it looked very much like a night sky. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 27Jan 26, 2014 8:51 pm Lilac Eli_ I just noticed all the points at the front of the room in the bulkhead, will you be putting an entertainment unit there? If so I would be looking to put the centre in that cabinet and angle it upwards a little with a small wedge. Hi Eli, yes we are putting a cabinet there,, we are moving the one from our family area in to the HT. The installer is a HT installer not a sparky. Originally the 3 front speakers were going across the ceiling in front of the bulkhead, but we have a beam that runs from the front of the room to the back, straight through the centre, so the centre speaker would need to move either side and be off centre. He then suggested putting it above the screen on the face of the bulkhead facing out and having the other 2 matching on the sides, but he can't do that either due to another beam. our only choice was to then put it up in the bulkhead pointing down - but I see what you're saying, so perhaps we centre the speaker in the middle of the back wall centred under the screen and above the unit? we have a 3 seater auto recliner couch running across the back wall so then all front speakers will be facing us? All speakers are from H.Norman - we took exactly what they had set up in their Auburn HT in store - the sub, the screen (except we went the fixed not automatic due to the canister size) and the speakers and amp - it sounded so amazing in there but their speakers were all in the ceiling - so perhaps if we just centre the middle speaker on the front wall that will help?? I haven't painted anything yet but you are absolutely right in what you say and I am going this way. Every HT I have walked in to is like - wow! it's the feel and atmosphere so yes I completely agree that it's its own haven.. Our paint is practically black but a grey/black (not brown black) so that's as far as matching the rest of the house that's a light grey and white. I am going to get all walls in full strength but was thinking of going half on the cornice and ceilings - thoughts? half or full all the way?? would love the halogen lights but a display home I walked through had them and the quote was about $15k, then I was like forget it! our couch is a light grey and then will accent with the pictures and cushions. we will have white shutters behind, which are essential for the outside look to match the other 9 windows across the front so must be white shutters, but eventually when money permits, I will get black curtains to cover these on the inside. I am so confused.... hope this all works out ok. Hi Lilac, I guess if you gave the speakers to the HT installer he is probably doing the best he can with them, although I'm surprised he suggested having the 3 fronts facing different directions. This would severely affect your audio and he should know that. The next question is, do you have room between your ent unit and the screen to put the centre speaker? I would be placing all speakers at the same level, or you would notice similar to what I mentioned before; audio going up then down then up again, but at least it is pointed in your rough direction. Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 28Jan 26, 2014 9:03 pm Lilac Eli_ I also just wanted to say looking at your blog that your house looks amazing! To be honest, looking at all your choices and finishes (wow) I'm a little surprised at the speakers you have chosen. But wow, you must be very proud of your house, great work. Thanks Eli - there is still a load to do but it all takes time. we should be able to knock over a few major projects in the next couple of months - like driveway and aircon and built in wood fireplace to finish off the sunken lounge. With regards to the speakers - really?? I heard Jamo were good - they are Jamo 6.5CST (not CS) if the 'T' makes any difference. to be honest - as mentioned above we just took everything in the HNorman display theatre and the sound in there was incredible so if we get that replication - I would be more than happy. I am sure there are bigger and better but I didn't think there was anything wrong with the sound of these ones - in fact it was so great we walked out with the lot (which was not the plan)! I certainly don't want to take anything away from what you bought. You went and auditioned and bought what sounded great to you, and that's absolutely the right thing to do. I wasn't trying to be rude, I just noticed all your finishes and the amount you must have spent on your house, and then saw the Jamo's are about $100 a speaker, which means the components are probably worth about $40-$50. But, you listened and they sounded great, so that is absolutely the main thing and I'm sure you will enjoy them. Here's a different option if things are getting too hard with placement: Use the 3 fronts in another area of your house, maybe family room or out under an alfresco or something. Keep 2 for rears in your HT, and go out and buy 2 bookshelf speakers and a centre to sit on top of your entertainment unit. It's just an option if placement gets hard or you think having 3 round speakers in the wall at the front may look strange. If not, hopefully you can work something out for the in-walls and they have enough room under the screen. Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 29Jan 27, 2014 8:08 am Hey Eli, I didn't think you were being rude at all... We did pull a few things out of our build and do them ourselves afterwards like all the kitchen appliances as I really wanted Miele this time, our stone bath and all main floor tiles, carpet etc, so yes we did splurge on a few things so you're right. With the HT we have no idea and I guess took the advice from HNorman at the time and truly what we heard when it gets turned up was just amazing. does the amp and sub make a difference or is the sound all speakers?? We couldn't afford a full blown HT but in saying that what we have purchased still came to about $8k in materials. The biggest being the AMP, 3D projector and actually our speakers were $1500 for the pack, so not sure about that one there were some other items discounted and they gave is the sub for free so it probably came from that. Also, we did get them almost 2 years agoo so prices have probably reduced since then too. Anyway, in saying that I do want the sound to be right, and now we know due to stupid beams in the roof our front speakers can't go in the right place then I might go back there today and get their opinion on a free standing centre speaker and get 2 proper wall speakers for the sides. if we have the 2 jamo in the ceiling at the back (already in) then if you get different types at the front - will the sound quality differ or are the front ones the most important for sound? we already have put the 6th speaker in our Alfresco that is wired up through the roof from the HT so we could put a 2nd out there and return the unopened box of 2 and exchange for wall speakers. I returned for a store credit a load of surplus speaker wire so I could then use that to go towards good centre speaker. One thing I thought I would mention if it also makes a difference - our HT is quite small - certainly not a 2 car garage size so I don't want the walls shaking... It's only 3300 wide and 5200mm long. By the time you have the couch in that needs to sit a good 500mm off the back wall to recline and the bulkhead, we're only going to be about 3.5m from the speakers - so the sound only has to fill a small space. thanks all for the advice it has been very helpful and as we have a unit in a centre speaker on top sounds like the better way to go. Blog: http://cbcbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Building Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=62155 Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 30Jan 27, 2014 9:10 am Lilac Hey Eli, I didn't think you were being rude at all... We did pull a few things out of our build and do them ourselves afterwards like all the kitchen appliances as I really wanted Miele this time, our stone bath and all main floor tiles, carpet etc, so yes we did splurge on a few things so you're right. With the HT we have no idea and I guess took the advice from HNorman at the time and truly what we heard when it gets turned up was just amazing. does the amp and sub make a difference or is the sound all speakers?? We couldn't afford a full blown HT but in saying that what we have purchased still came to about $8k in materials. The biggest being the AMP, 3D projector and actually our speakers were $1500 for the pack, so not sure about that one there were some other items discounted and they gave is the sub for free so it probably came from that. Also, we did get them almost 2 years agoo so prices have probably reduced since then too. Anyway, in saying that I do want the sound to be right, and now we know due to stupid beams in the roof our front speakers can't go in the right place then I might go back there today and get their opinion on a free standing centre speaker and get 2 proper wall speakers for the sides. if we have the 2 jamo in the ceiling at the back (already in) then if you get different types at the front - will the sound quality differ or are the front ones the most important for sound? we already have put the 6th speaker in our Alfresco that is wired up through the roof from the HT so we could put a 2nd out there and return the unopened box of 2 and exchange for wall speakers. I returned for a store credit a load of surplus speaker wire so I could then use that to go towards good centre speaker. One thing I thought I would mention if it also makes a difference - our HT is quite small - certainly not a 2 car garage size so I don't want the walls shaking... It's only 3300 wide and 5200mm long. By the time you have the couch in that needs to sit a good 500mm off the back wall to recline and the bulkhead, we're only going to be about 3.5m from the speakers - so the sound only has to fill a small space. thanks all for the advice it has been very helpful and as we have a unit in a centre speaker on top sounds like the better way to go. Hi Lilac, Yes, all components will change the sound to some degree, but so will the room. 2 years ago the speakers may have been more expensive, I just searched on Google and Selby had them listed at $226 a pair. Being Harvey Norman I'm sure they made a decent profit! While having the same speakers all around is nice, unless you step up in the price range a bit then I doubt you will notice too much difference. You definitely want the front 3 to be as close as possible, that's the main thing. That is still a decent size room, nice and long. If you let me know how much your budget is for the fronts I may be able to help with some suggestions? Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 31Jan 27, 2014 10:15 am all 3 fronts I will keep the same brand, but the 2 on the side we want on the wall - so centre speaker can sit on the unit with the sides wall mounted. what brands do you suggest. there is no budget - just not stupid prices as we have already bought the others. I guess in credit there's $200 so probably won't get much with that so just adding to what we have spent. happy for you to give me a recommendation of brand and price. we've spent this much, don't want to go to this trouble and have it sound wrong. are you from the industry? Blog: http://cbcbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Building Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=62155 Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 32Jan 27, 2014 12:28 pm update: Oh my goodness, what starts out to be a thread on colour has actually made me discover a lot more. Eli - I was just looking on line for speakers and discovered the 8.5cst pack version of what we got (ours are 6.5cst) on the HN website - this has made me realise we didn't spend $1500 on speakers - this was in fact a pack of 5 speakers and sub together - not feeling so ripped off... ( our 5th speaker was never delivered nor the sub - we thought we had to order a sub but decided against it - then one arrived with our order and the guy made out it was a freebie - in fact he was just sending us what we should have got to start with!). I am not going to go in to the muddle we have been in with our order but to say, our sales rep has confirmed we should not use our ceiling speakers on the wall they are for ceiling only so I am going to return the unopened box of 2 speakers to the store and will exchange for a centre speaker and 2 wall speakers. as my credits are with them, then I will get from Harvey. I will have to pay more but it needs to be right. this however is now not giving me confidence in our installer as he should know that what he was going to do, is not right.. As we now have an extra speaker I will put that in the rumpus as eventually that will be our pool table/games room. Anyway Thanks - you have unknowingly unravelled a big mess for me and until now I have been thinking our original sales guy sold us half a solution, it turns out to be a mix up in delivery and the new sales guy that took over not covering off what we ordered. Blog: http://cbcbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Building Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=62155 Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 33Jan 28, 2014 2:42 pm Lilac update: Oh my goodness, what starts out to be a thread on colour has actually made me discover a lot more. Eli - I was just looking on line for speakers and discovered the 8.5cst pack version of what we got (ours are 6.5cst) on the HN website - this has made me realise we didn't spend $1500 on speakers - this was in fact a pack of 5 speakers and sub together - not feeling so ripped off... ( our 5th speaker was never delivered nor the sub - we thought we had to order a sub but decided against it - then one arrived with our order and the guy made out it was a freebie - in fact he was just sending us what we should have got to start with!). I am not going to go in to the muddle we have been in with our order but to say, our sales rep has confirmed we should not use our ceiling speakers on the wall they are for ceiling only so I am going to return the unopened box of 2 speakers to the store and will exchange for a centre speaker and 2 wall speakers. as my credits are with them, then I will get from Harvey. I will have to pay more but it needs to be right. this however is now not giving me confidence in our installer as he should know that what he was going to do, is not right.. As we now have an extra speaker I will put that in the rumpus as eventually that will be our pool table/games room. Anyway Thanks - you have unknowingly unravelled a big mess for me and until now I have been thinking our original sales guy sold us half a solution, it turns out to be a mix up in delivery and the new sales guy that took over not covering off what we ordered. Hi Lilac, Glad I was able to help in a round-about way. And yes, I would have some hesitations on the installer based off what you have said. Just make sure that when you pick out your new speakers that you keep all the dimensions in mind and exactly where they will go. Cheers, Eli Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 34Jan 28, 2014 6:46 pm Quote: Hi Lilac, Glad I was able to help in a round-about way. And yes, I would have some hesitations on the installer based off what you have said. Just make sure that when you pick out your new speakers that you keep all the dimensions in mind and exactly where they will go. Cheers, Eli Yes I will. I am thinking of getting a long centre speaker that I have measured if the screen is to sit central between the unit and ceiling can be no more than 250mm high so have plenty of room there. Everything I have read says to keep the center speaker and side speakers level if you can but to be honest most images I've seen have had the side speakers higher as they sit to the side of a TV and the center below the tv. In our case they should horizontally be quite close in height off the floor and all facing forwards. Hopefully this should all be on track now... so thank you! Blog: http://cbcbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Building Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=62155 Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 35Jan 28, 2014 6:52 pm The only way to have all your front speakers at the same height is to have an accoustically transparent screen, and they're around 30-40% more expensive than a standard screen. Another thing to look at if you really want to do things properly is to have all 3 front speakers of the same size and types, which makes an AT screen all that more important. That said, if you are happy with what you've got, then that's all that matters. When I get to do my HT room, I'll be going for a 140" AT screen and whilst not all my front speakers are the same, they are very similar. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 36Jan 29, 2014 11:23 am Lilac Yes I will. I am thinking of getting a long centre speaker that I have measured if the screen is to sit central between the unit and ceiling can be no more than 250mm high so have plenty of room there. Everything I have read says to keep the center speaker and side speakers level if you can but to be honest most images I've seen have had the side speakers higher as they sit to the side of a TV and the center below the tv. In our case they should horizontally be quite close in height off the floor and all facing forwards. Hopefully this should all be on track now... so thank you! Yes, it is best to keep the tweeters at the same height where possible. Like the images you have seen, having the speakers to the side and centre below is quite popular (but not necessarily best for sound), because as Bpratt says, you really need an AT screen to get everything lined up perfectly. It's not optimal having them different heights, but sometimes there just isn't much choice! Angling the centre speaker upwards towards the listener is one thing people do to combat this. I think you'll be fine with how you have described the speakers, maybe just think about moving the centre speaker to the front of the cabinet so that you don't get immediate reflections off the top of it. Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 37Jan 29, 2014 11:26 am bpratt The only way to have all your front speakers at the same height is to have an accoustically transparent screen, and they're around 30-40% more expensive than a standard screen. Another thing to look at if you really want to do things properly is to have all 3 front speakers of the same size and types, which makes an AT screen all that more important. That said, if you are happy with what you've got, then that's all that matters. When I get to do my HT room, I'll be going for a 140" AT screen and whilst not all my front speakers are the same, they are very similar. That's very similar to my HT - 150" AT scope screen. Still deciding the best way to get the speakers raised up off the floor to sit above the fake wall! Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 38Apr 05, 2014 7:59 pm Your wall paint colour turned out amazing. Wish I could say the same for my build. It's giving off a pink/purple tint. http://seaview39.blogspot.com/2014/04/paint.html Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 39Apr 05, 2014 8:31 pm This is my Home Theatre with the speakers installed. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ This was done a month ago. This is for a 7.1 setup. I'm going to set my floor-standing subwoofer in the gap to the right of the cabinet. Build thread: here Land Nov 12, Contract 6/07/13, Consent 15/08/13, Start 20/09/13, Slab 25/09/13, Frame 4/10/13, Brick 21/10/13, Roof 2/11/13, Lock-up 17/12/13, Handover 3/3/14 Re: Dark Paint assistance - What colour's your Home theatre? 40Apr 06, 2014 4:24 pm Thought I would post a quick update. DH painted the HT a couple of weeks ago and we went Domino. Oh I love it! A really dark deep grey/black and against the white skirtings and cornices it's amazing. We have decided to not paint the ceiling at this point. if reflection is an issue their's plenty of paint and an easy fix if we need to do it later so for now we have just done all the walls. Spoke to Harvey Norman and he is speaking to their supplier on the closest wall speakers to match the rear ceiling speakers already installed in terms of sound. We will then take the 2 remaining ceiling speakers back and swap them for two front wall speakers and centre speaker. The centre bar speaker we get I will put on top of the wall cabinet and the screen will then be just above it. The wall speakers we will spray the same as the wall paint and they will sit in line with the centre speaker (as in practically the same height) and will have one installed facing the couch recliners on each side bulkhead wall. I'll take a photo once done but as far as the wall color........ Love it! Blog: http://cbcbuild.blogspot.com.au/ Building Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=62155 Hi, Appreciate any recommendations for town planners or advisors who can help assist to assess and draft an objection to a neighbour’s development in Northern Beaches.… 0 3634 Hey guys, We're very new to building and have got our contract back with a, btw you need a retaining wall, addition. Going by my very limited ability to read site… 0 2677 |