Browse Forums Renovation + Home Improvement 1 Mar 05, 2016 8:53 am I have some 600 x 200 x 100 hebel blocks....and am going to use them as a one row base which will be laid upon a fairly rough (not well - smoothed finish) Concrete (garage) floor on which I will put a non-load bearing wall about 1.5 meter in length. the Hebel blocks will be laid with the 10cm side up.. upon which the 75 mm. stud plate will rest. (please don't ask why I don't lay the blocks on the wide side....but suffice it to say that I have 100mm to work with) I don't want to spend 40 dollars for a bag of hebel adhesive (that is the cost here)...and wondered if anyone can tell me if normal mortar could be used to replace the adhesive. I note that the adhesive is supposed to be only 3mm in thickness...but mortar???? thanks for your replies in advance. Re: hebel and mortar 2Mar 05, 2016 9:05 am Doesn't look to be one of their recommendations: http://hebel.com.au/working-with-hebel Sent from an iPhone please excuse the ridiculous spell correcting software. My forum thread is at viewtopic.php?t=74944 Re: hebel and mortar 4Mar 05, 2016 3:43 pm thanks for replies. I have some VM-K 300 (made in Germany) that I used for the cyclone rod anchors. (like Ramset) ....I still have 3/4 tube of that stuff....would be better than Sikaflex which is not recommended for cyclone rods....But how thick would it have to be I wonder. Of course the weight of the Hebel may determine that...Probably isn't enough in a tube for 1.5 meters x 2 (either side) anyway...and a tube is 30$ so buying another tube....may as well buy the Hebel adhesive. Thanks Guys....any more words of wisdom are appreciated. Raelph Re: hebel and mortar 7Mar 08, 2016 5:59 am raelph thank you for your interest. We live in an area that has the possibility of cyclones (never had one...but possible) cyclone rods are used on external walls....thus, this is an external wall Your first post suggests it's an internal wall. You're laying on a a garage floor which is typically internal (otherwise it would be a carport) and it's not load bearing, which suggests to other posters even more that this is internal. You won't get good advice if you can't be clear about the specifics of what you're asking. Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Re: hebel and mortar 8Mar 08, 2016 7:43 am Yes you are correct....if I am not clear. In this case, to give you a better picture, an existing external wall is being moved 2 meters 'in' (making the garage smaller....I know....unusual). The hebel is so that the wall will be above water flow from rain and a nearby tap. I planned to render the hebel and then waterproof it with a bathroom floor membrane . Hope that helps, Rae Re: hebel and mortar 9Mar 08, 2016 2:16 pm That's still unclear. Although I'm starting to think the cost of hebel adhesive should be the least of your concerns Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Re: hebel and mortar 10Mar 08, 2016 2:27 pm interesting comment. .... and Yes...I shall buy the adhesive. But I am still wondering about the best waterproofing method. The wind blows mostly from one side. With it come the rain and the water flows along where the Hebel block will be until it reaches a grated pipe leading to larger stormwater pipes. when ever it rains the blocks will be subject to wet conditions as the water runs along the base. So I need a good waterproofing method. As for the wall itself...it is only 1.6 meters long... and is not a supporting wall. Recently I moved to a 30 year old house and found within few months there are small brown nests in the brick mortar and few small round holes in few places of brick… 0 22687 I was looking at different options for a fence for my build and Hebel PowerFence seemed like a good option (one of the criteria was a solid wall look). However, I don't… 0 5906 1 6638 |