Browse Forums Renovation + Home Improvement 1 Jan 18, 2016 5:50 pm Hi all, We've just purchased a bookcase from IKEA for the new house (will remain in storage for a while - we can't help ourselves!) We intend to wall mount this bookcase in the foyer area of our new home - the package says the weight is approx. 35kg, then probably another 5kg on top of that for misc ornaments. So a total of 40kg. It is 143cm long. Would the wall structure of a new home be able to support all this weight, and if so, what would be the most effective and safest way to mount it? TIA! First Home Buyer | Livingstone 22 Tender accepted 9/10/15 | Contract signed 30/10/15 | Colours selected 29/03/16 Re: Wall Mounting a Bookcase? 2Jan 18, 2016 8:37 pm If you can screw it into studs it will be fine. If the plasterboard isn't up it could be worth checking where the studs are now. The Harder You Try - the Luckier You Get ! Web site http://www.anewhouse.com.au Informative, Amusing, and Opinionated Blog - Over 600 posts on all aspects of building a new house. Re: Wall Mounting a Bookcase? 3Jan 19, 2016 12:10 pm The back of the bookcase could just be cardboard, and so you may need to work out how to mount it so the structure of the bookcase is joined to the structure of the wall. That may mean brackets or blocks of wood to join between the sides/bottom/fixed shelves of the bookcase into the studs or noggins of the wall. Re: Wall Mounting a Bookcase? 4Jan 19, 2016 12:29 pm oneJohn The back of the bookcase could just be cardboard, and so you may need to work out how to mount it so the structure of the bookcase is joined to the structure of the wall. That may mean brackets or blocks of wood to join between the sides/bottom/fixed shelves of the bookcase into the studs or noggins of the wall. Yeah, I think it's just a thin sheet of particleboard at the back of the unit. As the spaces inside the bookcase are fairly skinny, where would the brackets go? I would want an ideally flush finish against the wall. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ First Home Buyer | Livingstone 22 Tender accepted 9/10/15 | Contract signed 30/10/15 | Colours selected 29/03/16 Re: Wall Mounting a Bookcase? 5Jan 27, 2016 10:09 pm The unit concerned appears to be an EGGBY Bookcase (750 x 1470). It has no actual "Back". As shown in your photo, some areas are open at the rear (you can see through them) and some areas are "solid" (i.e. made from the same material as the rest of the unit). You estimate a total mass of 40 kg (and I would think it inadvisable to load it up with books, for which it was designed, if you intend to hang it on a wall. (It was designed for standing on a floor and to be attached to a wall (stud) at the top (out of sight), to avoid the danger of tipping over.) If you mount it on a wall, (assuming that the wall concerned is a stud-wall finished with plaster-board.) I suggest that you proceed as follows:- 1 Assemble the unit and determine where you wish to place it. 2 Locate the wall studs behind the plaster, which should be between 450 and 600 apart. (You will need a "stud finder".) 2a (Assuming that you wish to mount this vertically - as shown - you should be able to determine that you have "solid" backing on the unit at the required distance apart. However, if two studs are not available exactly where you wish to place the unit, you will need to shift its location slightly left or right. [Either that or start "modifying" the wall - but that is another story.]) (If you wish to place the unit horizontally you should easily be able to locate at least three studs to suit your purpose.) 3 Place a strip of masking tape on the top rear edge of the unit. 4 Temporally support the unit off the floor at the required height (ensuring that it is level) and mark the wall (lightly – in pencil) at the edges of each stud and also mark these “locations” on the top of the unit – on the masking tape. 5 With the unit back on the floor, using the stud edges marked on the top as a guide, on the rear of the unit mark the positions to drill at least four holes in the “solid” backing members of the unit – two near the top and two near the base. These holes should be “aimed” to be in the centre of the studs and at least 50 mm from any “solid” edge material in the unit. 6 From the rear, drill the holes to suit the clearance required for the screws to be used (Say, 10 gauge, 60 mm [minimum] in length) and then (only slightly) counter-sink them at the front – which is why they should be at least 50 mm from any edge which otherwise may inhibit this activity. 7 Again, temporally support the unit off the floor at the required height (ensuring that it is level) and mark the wall where the screws are to be inserted, using the holes drilled in the unit as a template. 8 Remove the unit and check that you have marked the hole positions over the studs. (If not, redo the above step.) 9 Drill pilot holes in the wall at the marked positions, being certain that you go through the plaster and drill into each stud to at least the required depth (screw length, minus the thickness of the unit material), screw in the screws at least half-way and then remove them. 10 Temporally support the unit again and insert the screws through the holes drilled in the unit and into the pre-drilled holes in the studs. 11 When screwed in solidly, cover the heads of the screws with suitably coloured screw-caps. (If the heads of the screws are flush with the surface, the screw caps should fit properly. If not flush, screws may be removed one at a time, the counter-sinking increased and the screw replaced. If screws are set too deeply, the screw caps may fall off and require gluing into position. This is the reason for only slightly counter-sinking them in Step 9.) 12 Remove the masking tape from the top of the unit and clean the pencil marks off the wall paint-work. (Tooth-paste is suggested for this purpose.) Enjoy Re: Wall Mounting a Bookcase? 6Jan 31, 2016 9:21 am WarpSpeed79 Hi all, We've just purchased a bookcase from IKEA for the new house (will remain in storage for a while - we can't help ourselves!) We intend to wall mount this bookcase in the foyer area of our new home - the package says the weight is approx. 35kg, then probably another 5kg on top of that for misc ornaments. So a total of 40kg. It is 143cm long. Would the wall structure of a new home be able to support all this weight, and if so, what would be the most effective and safest way to mount it? TIA! Kitchen overheads are way heavier than that and there is no problems with them! Is it a stud wall or brick wall?? Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Wall Mounting a Bookcase? 7Jan 31, 2016 9:27 am FrodoOne The unit concerned appears to be an EGGBY Bookcase (750 x 1470). It has no actual "Back". As shown in your photo, some areas are open at the rear (you can see through them) and some areas are "solid" (i.e. made from the same material as the rest of the unit). You estimate a total mass of 40 kg (and I would think it inadvisable to load it up with books, for which it was designed, if you intend to hang it on a wall. (It was designed for standing on a floor and to be attached to a wall (stud) at the top (out of sight), to avoid the danger of tipping over.) If you mount it on a wall, (assuming that the wall concerned is a stud-wall finished with plaster-board.) I suggest that you proceed as follows:- 1 Assemble the unit and determine where you wish to place it. 2 Locate the wall studs behind the plaster, which should be between 450 and 600 apart. (You will need a "stud finder".) 2a (Assuming that you wish to mount this vertically - as shown - you should be able to determine that you have "solid" backing on the unit at the required distance apart. However, if two studs are not available exactly where you wish to place the unit, you will need to shift its location slightly left or right. [Either that or start "modifying" the wall - but that is another story.]) (If you wish to place the unit horizontally you should easily be able to locate at least three studs to suit your purpose.) 3 Place a strip of masking tape on the top rear edge of the unit. 4 Temporally support the unit off the floor at the required height (ensuring that it is level) and mark the wall (lightly – in pencil) at the edges of each stud and also mark these “locations” on the top of the unit – on the masking tape. 5 With the unit back on the floor, using the stud edges marked on the top as a guide, on the rear of the unit mark the positions to drill at least four holes in the “solid” backing members of the unit – two near the top and two near the base. These holes should be “aimed” to be in the centre of the studs and at least 50 mm from any “solid” edge material in the unit. 6 From the rear, drill the holes to suit the clearance required for the screws to be used (Say, 10 gauge, 60 mm [minimum] in length) and then (only slightly) counter-sink them at the front – which is why they should be at least 50 mm from any edge which otherwise may inhibit this activity. 7 Again, temporally support the unit off the floor at the required height (ensuring that it is level) and mark the wall where the screws are to be inserted, using the holes drilled in the unit as a template. 8 Remove the unit and check that you have marked the hole positions over the studs. (If not, redo the above step.) 9 Drill pilot holes in the wall at the marked positions, being certain that you go through the plaster and drill into each stud to at least the required depth (screw length, minus the thickness of the unit material), screw in the screws at least half-way and then remove them. 10 Temporally support the unit again and insert the screws through the holes drilled in the unit and into the pre-drilled holes in the studs. 11 When screwed in solidly, cover the heads of the screws with suitably coloured screw-caps. (If the heads of the screws are flush with the surface, the screw caps should fit properly. If not flush, screws may be removed one at a time, the counter-sinking increased and the screw replaced. If screws are set too deeply, the screw caps may fall off and require gluing into position. This is the reason for only slightly counter-sinking them in Step 9.) 12 Remove the masking tape from the top of the unit and clean the pencil marks off the wall paint-work. (Tooth-paste is suggested for this purpose.) Enjoy Awful lot of steps there for a very simple job. When we fit wall cabinets they go on the wall once and once only. They never come back off! You don't need a stud finder(it does help) but its not necessary. I would also be using 6 screws to the wall. I am not a fan of using brackets to hold it to a wall. It really should have a solid back 16-18mm thick! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Wall Mounting a Bookcase? 8Jan 31, 2016 3:24 pm CEK. Nothing from ikea has a solid back. In all IKEA stuff I've seen you have to use the brackets that fix into the solid shelves/tops and then screw them to the wall. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Wall Mounting a Bookcase? 9Feb 01, 2016 8:41 pm CuttingEdgeKitchens Kitchen overheads are way heavier than that and there is no problems with them! Is it a stud wall or brick wall?? True, I never thought of that! It will be a stud wall. What sort of brackets would be suitable for this particular bookcase if I am wanting a flush finish against the wall? Thank you for the very detailed steps Frodo! First Home Buyer | Livingstone 22 Tender accepted 9/10/15 | Contract signed 30/10/15 | Colours selected 29/03/16 Re: Wall Mounting a Bookcase? 10Feb 02, 2016 10:14 am Are you mounting it horizontally or vertically? Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Wall Mounting a Bookcase? 11Feb 02, 2016 11:30 am I'd consider screwing a piece of timber to the wall running along underneath the bookcase, say around 45x45mm and a bit shorter than the width of the bookcase. Then you sit the bookcase on that, screwing the bookcase to it. Then a similar piece above the top to stop it falling forward. They shouldn't be terribly visible as the bottom and top shelves should largely obscure them. Re: Wall Mounting a Bookcase? 12Feb 02, 2016 2:38 pm chippy CEK. Nothing from ikea has a solid back. In all IKEA stuff I've seen you have to use the brackets that fix into the solid shelves/tops and then screw them to the wall. If you look at the assembly instructions for the EGGBY bookase (http://www.ikea.com/au/en/assembly_inst ... 9321-2.pdf) you will see that where the "back" is not completely open, there IS a solid section - made from the same (16 mm ?) board as the rest of the unit. Update from me! Couldn't find the trimmer - not sure if there isn't one simply because the eave is so narrow. Went ahead with the spring toggles and it all worked out… 7 4624 Thank you again Simeon.. I will call my certifier for that. Have a good day 4 1330 Evening, Had my 3 month maintance done on my new place. Most things are fixed to ok standards, but im not sure about the visible joins in my plaster wall. There was 2… 0 4609 |