Browse Forums Renovation + Home Improvement 1 Jul 30, 2014 2:55 pm Hi All, I'm currently installing new skirting boards after gyprocking my house and I have came across an issue with the skirting boards. When nailing the skirting boards on to the bottom plate at the ends (where there is no stud), such as the corners of a room the skirting board pulls in at the bottom as the gyprocking sits 10mm off the ground. So rather than getting a perfect square ('L' shape) intersection in the corner of the room, I now have to fill in the gap at the bottom with filler. How can I stop the skirting boards from pulling in at the corners? I have tried to put little bits of plaster and other material at the ends but they still pull in. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 2Jul 30, 2014 8:52 pm trade secret so dont tell anyone. get your self a handfull of clouts and put them about 300 apart into the bottom plate about 10mm off the floor and nail them in so they are just outside the line of the plaster board, that way you can tap them in slightly until your skirt sits flat. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 3Aug 01, 2014 11:36 am DLO33 I have tried to put little bits of plaster and other material at the ends but they still pull in. thats how I do it and it works. Of course you dont nail in the skirting thru those pieces else they could break up and disintegrate, maybe thats why they are still pulling in? You nail the board above the 10mm gap area. Stupid they way they hang it like that. PLasterboard should be 2-3 mm off the floor at most. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 4Aug 01, 2014 12:07 pm Its probably the recessed edge along the bottom of the board. Its enough to tilt the bottom of the skirting in. I always carry a roll of malthoid for this purpose,along for other packing needs. 2 strips will bring that r.e. out flush with the remainder of the board. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 5Aug 01, 2014 5:53 pm qebtel Stupid they way they hang it like that. PLasterboard should be 2-3 mm off the floor at most. Its the recess on the board that makes it roll in, it still does it even if the board is hard on the floor. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 6Aug 04, 2014 10:05 am mgilla Its the recess on the board that makes it roll in, it still does it even if the board is hard on the floor. Not to my knowledge. The skirt board I have used have profiles like this. As you see, there is a rebate in the centre of the back of the board, but the bottom has a good 10mm or so that will back up onto the wallboard, so I dont see how it will roll in on a 2-3mm gap. It never has on my jobs. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 7Aug 04, 2014 2:05 pm qebtel mgilla Its the recess on the board that makes it roll in, it still does it even if the board is hard on the floor. Not to my knowledge. The skirt board I have used have profiles like this. As you see, there is a rebate in the centre of the back of the board, but the bottom has a good 10mm or so that will back up onto the wallboard, so I dont see how it will roll in on a 2-3mm gap. It never has on my jobs. When referring to board I'm talking about plaster board, the recess edge is about 50mm wide. The processed edge of the plaster board is 7-8mm on a 10mm sheet. That's a 2-3mm hollow at the bottom that you need to pack out. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 8Aug 04, 2014 2:07 pm qebtel, Board,as in plasterboard- It is the recess edge on the plasterboard that needs packing out flush with the remainder of the plasterboard,or else any fixing into this area will cause the skirting to tilt in at the base, and show up in the internal corners and at the abutment to arch's. Sorry mgiila -you beat me to it. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 9Aug 05, 2014 10:27 pm oldchippy Board,as in plasterboard Ok that makes more sense. oldchippy It is the recess edge on the plasterboard that needs packing out flush with the remainder of the plasterboard,or else any fixing into this area will cause the skirting to tilt in at the base, Why do you use double recessed edge (RE)? I use RE/SE sheets to avoid this very problem. Its available for std 8ft or 9ft ceiling houses. But the OP didnt say RE was the problem, you and others just assumed this. OP said there was a 10mm gap at the bottom, which would certainly cause tilt-in on smaller width skirting board, RE or not. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 10Aug 06, 2014 6:36 am qebtel Why do you use double recessed edge (RE)? I use RE/SE sheets to avoid this very problem. Its available for std 8ft or 9ft ceiling houses. I'll ask my plaster today, but my guess is it would cost more because its not universal and because of the extra time involved as every second board would need to be flipped and spun so the RE marries up on the wall. But the OP didnt say RE was the problem, you and others just assumed this. OP said there was a 10mm gap at the bottom, which would certainly cause tilt-in on smaller width skirting board, RE or not. I would pretty much guarantee the RE was the issue the OP was talking about. The 10mm gap needs to be there, and yes if your using 42mm for skirting the gap will be an issue. But with 68mm or bigger the flat on the back will span that. Its common practice to sit the skirting on pieces of 11mm so the carpet rolls in under and standard tiles can do the same. End of the day for those who have done it enough the recess on the bottom of the board is not an issue when it comes to putting the skirting on. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 11Aug 06, 2014 11:25 am mgilla I'll ask my plaster today, but my guess is it would cost more because its not universal Yes its costs slightly more. Universal? It comes in fewer length sizes, but so what? I didnt realise building meant being such a tight ar5e. mgilla and because of the extra time involved as every second board would need to be flipped and spun so the RE marries up on the wall. lol 30 secs to flip it over. tight ar5ed and impatient by the looks of it! mgilla Its common practice to sit the skirting on pieces of 11mm so the carpet rolls in under and standard tiles can do the same. Im guessing thats just so carpet layers can lay it much quicker and not bother taking so much care to get a form-fitting cut? mgilla End of the day for those who have done it enough the recess on the bottom of the board is not an issue when it comes to putting the skirting on. That attitude doesnt surprise me from a builder - its just do once and then for get it. For the homeowner doing a reno years down the track being confronted with clouts as per your fix, its kinda unprofessional and tacky. Single sided recessed edge is made for this purpose, and thats what I would always use. As an OBer Im too pedantic for you I guess, but when I build everything sits right and flush. I dont let cost or a few minutes put me off doing something 100% right. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 12Aug 06, 2014 5:10 pm Qebtel you don't know me or know what the finish quality of the houses I build is like. Take a quick survey of builders, (yeah that's right the ones who do this all day every day) and see how many are using RE/SE board in there houses. Don't assume because we don't do things the same as an OB that we don't care, it's just we've found a cheaper and easier way to do something and haven't been taken in by a sales speall to buy something we don't need. If your in Brisbane I'd be only too happy to come through your OB project and do a QA. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 13Aug 06, 2014 8:32 pm mgilla Qebtel you don't know me or know what the finish quality of the houses I build is like. Thats not under discussion, Im sure you do a great finish. Its how you get there. mgilla Take a quick survey of builders, (yeah that's right the ones who do this all day every day) and see how many are using RE/SE board in there houses. Oh I have no argument they do things quick and cheap to look good. But what do you think the RE/SE board is made for? mgilla it's just we've found a cheaper and easier way to do something no argument there. mgilla and haven't been taken in by a sales speall to buy something we don't need. Salesmans "speil" has nothing to do with it, there's the correct way, and there's the less correct cheaper tacky way. Balancing a skirting board on a row of clouts just isnt good enough to my sensibilities. I'm not going to argue the point anymore, but I thank you for highlighting this to me, because if I ever do contract a registered builder to construct a house for me, I'm going to insist on RE/SE board throughout. Do not try and tell me that a skirting board backing on to an vertically perpendicular SE side of a plasterboard, is no better than that clout trick of yours. Anyway end of story for me. Cheers. Re: Installing skirting boards without bottom pulling in 14Aug 14, 2014 8:55 pm Thanks to all that replied. We went with the clout method and it works beautifully. Just a bit of background; We put the gyprock 10mm off the ground as it's an existing house and the floor was uneven. Carpet layers wanted the skirts to the floor. Carpet is in now and it looks great! Used a 67mm beveled edge skirt. Now just have to try and sort out my crappy painting. Building Standards; Getting It Right! Is this acceptable in a new house build. Floors where installed by builder. Already chips in board and skirting is not flush 0 180 This certainly doesn't look good. I would be engaging with an independent inspector to have a look at this. As for the unscheduled site visits, most builders are quite… 1 28312 |