Browse Forums Renovation + Home Improvement 1 Mar 23, 2013 8:35 pm Tiles will be installed on a newly built concrete floor, the floor is pretty level. Do I still need to do screeding before tiling? If this has to be done, can I use a leveling system like LASH instead of screeding the whole floor? Thanks! Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 2Mar 24, 2013 11:27 am Naturally it will depend on how bad your floor is and only you can tell by running a straight edge over it. Its the main reason I chose smaller tiles (300+mm) at least you have a better chance of hiding any imperfections Arfur Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 3Mar 24, 2013 8:37 pm Uncle Arfur Naturally it will depend on how bad your floor is and only you can tell by running a straight edge over it. Its the main reason I chose smaller tiles (300+mm) at least you have a better chance of hiding any imperfections Assume the floor is well leveled, do i still need to do screeding? Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 4Mar 24, 2013 11:06 pm No, would defeat the purpose of screeding if its level enough. Get your tiler to give an opinion if you need screeding. I like 600x600 tiles however they don't work we'll in smaller bathrooms like mine. Make sure you get a good tiler for 600x600 tiles. Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 5Mar 25, 2013 8:45 am If your floor is pretty good then a quality glue ( and a good tiler ) will be fine. Some glues can be built up to 10-15mm in thickness to cope with any floor discrepancies. Stewie Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 6Mar 25, 2013 9:12 am Stewie D If your floor is pretty good then a quality glue ( and a good tiler ) will be fine. Some glues can be built up to 10-15mm in thickness to cope with any floor discrepancies. Stewie Thanks Stewie. I was looking at the glue called ARDEX, but not too sure which one can have that 10-15mm thickness. Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 7Mar 25, 2013 10:41 am It sounds like you are having the tiles professionally laid so the tiler will soon tell you. I think if you have variations of 10 --15mm you should not rely on adhesive buildup. Arfur Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 8Mar 25, 2013 12:57 pm Uncle Arfur It sounds like you are having the tiles professionally laid so the tiler will soon tell you. I think if you have variations of 10 --15mm you should not rely on adhesive buildup. Would a leveling system fix this kind of problems? Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 9Mar 26, 2013 7:48 am Quote: It sounds like you are having the tiles professionally laid so the tiler will soon tell you. I think if you have variations of 10 --15mm you should not rely on adhesive buildup. Some glues our tiler has used in the past are designed for this and more. I wouldn't use this in a bathroom though but seeing as he used to do a screed to get his falls anyway it's a moot point. Stewie Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 10Mar 26, 2013 10:39 am Stewie D Quote: It sounds like you are having the tiles professionally laid so the tiler will soon tell you. I think if you have variations of 10 --15mm you should not rely on adhesive buildup. Some glues our tiler has used in the past are designed for this and more. I wouldn't use this in a bathroom though but seeing as he used to do a screed to get his falls anyway it's a moot point. Stewie Which brand did you use? Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 11Mar 27, 2013 6:47 am From memory ( and it was about twelve years ago ) he used ABA products almost all the time. I'm not sure if he used one of theirs for that particular job. If you go to any major tile shop or ask most sales reps for their advice , I'm sure they would be able to point you in the right direction. An easy way too to see how much variation there is in your floor is to use a string line pulled tight between two of you. Where you see inconsistencies most is at the edges of the room particularly if you are going to install skirting after. You may get away with a standard glue if you fill in a couple of the low points in your floor with some of that self leveling compound you mentioned. Stewie Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 12Mar 27, 2013 11:46 am I was at the shopping centre today and they are using 600 x 600 tiles in the extension/reno and they are HUGE. I couldnt imagine them being used in a smaller domestic area at all, but I guess its all about personal choice Arfur Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 13Mar 27, 2013 2:31 pm I think 600x600 tiles are becoming more common, as it does look good in larger spaces. Looks silly in a bathroom. My cousin's 70sq home has 800x800 tiles. Looks fantastic. Cost a fortune to lay- screed, labour & wastage. The tiler has done a superb job- no lippage that I noticed. The same tiler is currently laying my tiles for my house, I've used piddly 300x600 tiles in my wet areas. Rest of the house is floorboards. Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 14Apr 18, 2013 9:54 am I amused at when people say 600x600 tiles are not common in bathrooms. I dont know where you guys live but 600x600 bathrooms are extremely common in Melbourne. Ill go as far as to say that more bathrooms are layed with 600x600 tiles then 300x300 these days. Generally if the bathroom is of reasonable size and you are laying the tiles to the ceiling, 600x600 tiles look magic! As for screading. Screading is designed to create fall in bathrooms or lift the level of a bathroom or laundry to suite timber floors etc in the house so there is no step down. If you have a large living area and your slab is out a tiler isnt going to scread the whole slab, rather ask you to self level it if its quiet bad. Otherwise as Stewie said if its a little out they will use glue to lift the tiles where necessary. Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 15Apr 20, 2013 2:32 pm Robbie1950 I amused at when people say 600x600 tiles are not common in bathrooms. I dont know where you guys live but 600x600 bathrooms are extremely common in Melbourne. Ill go as far as to say that more bathrooms are layed with 600x600 tiles then 300x300 these days. Generally if the bathroom is of reasonable size and you are laying the tiles to the ceiling, 600x600 tiles look magic! . The walls are not the problem its the floor! Getting the correct falls in a small bathroom with 600x600 tiles is next to impossible! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 16Apr 23, 2013 3:11 pm CuttingEdgeKitchens Robbie1950 I amused at when people say 600x600 tiles are not common in bathrooms. I dont know where you guys live but 600x600 bathrooms are extremely common in Melbourne. Ill go as far as to say that more bathrooms are layed with 600x600 tiles then 300x300 these days. Generally if the bathroom is of reasonable size and you are laying the tiles to the ceiling, 600x600 tiles look magic! . The walls are not the problem its the floor! Getting the correct falls in a small bathroom with 600x600 tiles is next to impossible! Next to impossible? Far from impossible. Any good tiler will make fall with 600x600 tiles! Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 17Apr 24, 2013 4:11 pm Robbie1950 [] Next to impossible? Far from impossible. Any good tiler will make fall with 600x600 tiles! I strongly disagree!! In very small bathrooms and ensuites if a 3 or 4 way fall is required 600x600 tiles are next to impossbile to lay with out them being lippy. By lippy I mean one edge higher than the tile sitting beside it. I build kitchens and bathrooms for a living and see this sort of thing all the time!! I have 65sqm of 600x600 tiles in my house but used 300x300mm tiles on the bathroom floors to avoid any problems! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 18Apr 27, 2013 11:54 am I agree Dave. Small showers or bathrooms need smaller tiles to get the falls happening into the floor grates. Or you could end up with diagonal cuts to enable that as well which don't look as good. Tiles should also look in proportion to the room. Big room - big tiles, smaller room - smaller tiles. Stewie Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 19Apr 29, 2013 7:33 am Stewie D I agree Dave. Small showers or bathrooms need smaller tiles to get the falls happening into the floor grates. Or you could end up with diagonal cuts to enable that as well which don't look as good. Tiles should also look in proportion to the room. Big room - big tiles, smaller room - smaller tiles. Stewie Totally agree! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Question for installing 600x600 large tiles 20May 01, 2013 6:01 pm Robbie1950 If you have a large living area and your slab is out a tiler isnt going to scread the whole slab, rather ask you to self level it if its quiet bad. Otherwise as Stewie said if its a little out they will use glue to lift the tiles where necessary. Oh really?? I had 80sqm of 600x600 tiles laid in my own house. My tiler sceeded the entire slab first. He said he would never lay such big tiles direct to the slab. They would end up lippy. My floor is now 100% level from one end of my house to the other and there is no lips on any tiles at all. Tiling 600x600 direct to the slab is the sign of a tiler cutting corners or trying to keep the price down. For a good quality job it should be screeded first! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com consider putting in wall WC instead of robe in the same bedroom, then it might be doable to hook up to the existing piping. 4 6634 4 4500 Hi all, My first post, we are building a house and can’t decide the layout of the lounge room. We have a large N/W facing window and are wanting to have a wood slow… 0 13731 |