Browse Forums Renovation + Home Improvement 1 Apr 06, 2012 6:51 pm Hello =) I am wanting to put a shelf in to sit right above the tiled splashback in the kitchen - it would only come out about 30-40cm from the wall. The problem is, the wall is an 'internal' one ie sounds very hollow, so I shouldn't really be drilling or hammering into it.. Is there any solution that will be strong enough that doesn't require me to drill? I thought there was something that "clipped" against the wall that I saw advertised ages ago... The shelf won't be holding too much weight - but cups/tea/coffee/sugar or possibly kettle/toaster.. Thanks in advance for your help =) Re: Shelf without drilling? 2Apr 06, 2012 7:12 pm rachy87 Hello =) I am wanting to put a shelf in to sit right above the tiled splashback in the kitchen - it would only come out about 30-40cm from the wall. The problem is, the wall is an 'internal' one ie sounds very hollow, so I shouldn't really be drilling or hammering into it.. Is there any solution that will be strong enough that doesn't require me to drill? I thought there was something that "clipped" against the wall that I saw advertised ages ago... The shelf won't be holding too much weight - but cups/tea/coffee/sugar or possibly kettle/toaster.. Thanks in advance for your help =) Bunnings cavity fasteners... you just drill through the plaster, insert the fastener through your shelf support into the hole in the plaster and screw it home. It grabs the plaster from the inside, holds plenty or weight for cups and toaster. I am sure they will have a ready made shelf too... Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Shelf without drilling? 3Apr 06, 2012 8:20 pm ed @ ecoclassic Bunnings cavity fasteners... you just drill through the plaster, insert the fastener through your shelf support into the hole in the plaster and screw it home. It grabs the plaster from the inside, holds plenty or weight for cups and toaster. I am sure they will have a ready made shelf too... Ed Thank you =) A couple of other things.. I am renting... Can they be removed easily and I can just patch the hole up? And could I use "floating shelves" with this? An angle bracket won't work because of the splash-back... I was wanting to have the shelf pretty much right on top of the tiles.. Thanks again! Re: Shelf without drilling? 4Apr 06, 2012 10:36 pm rachy87 ed @ ecoclassic Bunnings cavity fasteners... you just drill through the plaster, insert the fastener through your shelf support into the hole in the plaster and screw it home. It grabs the plaster from the inside, holds plenty or weight for cups and toaster. I am sure they will have a ready made shelf too... Ed Thank you =) A couple of other things.. I am renting... Can they be removed easily and I can just patch the hole up? And could I use "floating shelves" with this? An angle bracket won't work because of the splash-back... I was wanting to have the shelf pretty much right on top of the tiles.. Thanks again! I guess if it's just a painted wall, they can be repaired easily. I would think an inverted shelf bracket would be the go, like an upside down shelf, where the shelf hangs from the bracket. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Shelf without drilling? 5Apr 07, 2012 6:45 am With renting I would first gain permission as some landlords get touchy about people boring holes in their walls. Your 30--40cm shelf is a fairly wide shelf and when loaded with 'cups/tea/coffee/sugar or possibly kettle/toaster' etc and depending on its length would need to be fairly substantial in thickness to avoid sagging, or require more intermediate brackets (and more holes) I would be looking for a free standing unit shelf that sits on the bench top Arfur Re: Shelf without drilling? 6Apr 07, 2012 10:10 am Uncle Arfur With renting I would first gain permission as some landlords get touchy about people boring holes in their walls. Your 30--40cm shelf is a fairly wide shelf and when loaded with 'cups/tea/coffee/sugar or possibly kettle/toaster' etc and depending on its length would need to be fairly substantial in thickness to avoid sagging, or require more intermediate brackets (and more holes) I would be looking for a free standing unit shelf that sits on the bench top Have to agree with Arfur, drilling holes in walls on a rental is not a good idea unless you have permission. Maybe you could use L shape brackets stuck to the tiles with 3M double sided tape, atleast that way you can remove them later without leaving any damage. Re: Shelf without drilling? 7Apr 07, 2012 10:44 am I agree with Arfur too. . . leave the drilling of walls for when you buy your own place. You could ask the owners to install something? Or just buy something free-standing, then you can take it with you to the next place. I wouldn't use VHB tape to hold up a shelf. . . I've had light pictures fall off the wall hung on the stuff. . . if it does hold tight, I'd be scared of the gyprock giving way. Re: Shelf without drilling? 8Apr 21, 2012 1:07 pm Thank you everyone. We had been told that we can make holes so long as we patch and paint over when we leave. And, on actually getting a ruler out, I think 20cm is a more reasonable estimation :p I initially thought of a stand alone shelf but it would need to be quite tall and I think they look a bit cllutered if something is still sitting on the bench. Upside down brackets might be the way to go... =) Re: Shelf without drilling? 9Apr 22, 2012 1:48 pm rachy87 We had been told that we can make holes so long as we patch and paint over when we leave. You seem determined to drill holes in the wall, so consider the possible 'patching and painting' problems. Do you have spare paint? If not do you know the colour? If it has been a couple of years since it was originally painted any paint applied when you decide to leave, will undoubtedly vary slightly from the existing wall colour and the patches will stand out like the proverbial. Then the landlord can insist you repaint (or deduct it from your bond) the whole wall (or room) to get one consistent colour, which to me seems a high price to pay for a shelf. Arfur I use Tramex moisture meter and it will tell me instantly if the wall is cement sheet or plaster or masonite but most people dont have the equipment. 5 7045 This certainly doesn't look good. I would be engaging with an independent inspector to have a look at this. As for the unscheduled site visits, most builders are quite… 1 28285 Elvis has left the building... The site supervisor quit after 2 month on the project. I guess he was just instructed to bark at people, but didn't like when he was… 26 20852 |