Browse Forums Renovation + Home Improvement 1 Sep 16, 2011 5:36 pm Has anyone had experience with in floor power/data points. We are looking at setting them in a concrete floor and a quick check online tells me that they are very expensive. All advice welcome. Re: In floor power/data points 2Sep 18, 2011 11:24 pm there a great idea. always good in a large room where lamp lighting is required in the centre. things to note, for a recessed unit the depth of the gpo can be larger than expected, ensure adequate sized blockouts are used. know your furniture layout now to ensure your furniture does not foul its position. ensure this info is adequately communicated on both architectural and electrical drawings to save some $$ maybe check out some salvage yards, you will be surprised how many of these are taken out of commercial demo jobs and can be purchased at a fraction of the cost. good luck architect Re: In floor power/data points 3Sep 20, 2011 11:01 pm Hello, Yes these items are very expensive, we are talking starting at 350.00 trade price just for the reccessed box and that is a lower model type. There are many types you can choose from, all having their own features, i.e. double gpo only. double gpo with phone and data, etc etc. ***** Make sure when you are deciding on a position you DO NOT position the floorbox where you couch etc. may sit. The reason for this is alot of people wanting a reccessed floor box think that it will be a hidden powerpoint that tucks away into the floor that you can plug into and never see.. this isnt the case...the reason being: Some models have the powerpoint mounted to the lid of the box some models have the powerpoint located in the bottom of the box. Either model you choose, the lid of the floorbox HAS to be open for you to be able to plug in and use an appliance or data cable, The only time the floorbox lid is closed is when there is nothing plugged into it. so locating it under a couch etc. is a big no-no. So basically mount it under a side table, or somewhere with access or it will be a useless fitting. All the other mounting details your electrician and builder should already know ( proper mounting heights, conduit work, etc etc ) I hope this helped chris Electrical - Automation - Smart wiring - New homes - Commercial - Data cabling] 1300 050 315 www.cenemelectrical.com.au www.facebook.com/cenemelectrical Re: In floor power/data points 4Sep 21, 2011 4:59 pm Thanks for the feedback, I am going to need these by next week so I had better get a wriggle on. Architect do you know of any salvage yards I might try? Re: In floor power/data points 5Sep 21, 2011 9:55 pm s7 im west coast, not familiar with vic salvage yards. just ring around and ask them what they have. also try fitout contractors that also do commercial refits, might have a drum full of them waiting for you in their wharehouse. good luck with your rummaging!! Re: In floor power/data points 6Aug 12, 2014 5:03 pm Hi All, Please see below links to options on floor outlet boxes. These range from $220.00 to $260.00 Inc GST. These are very popular for the new powered recliners and / or floor lamps. http://www.cableaway.com.au/cablestore/ ... eries.html http://www.cableaway.com.au/cablestore/ ... eries.html I hope this helps, Cableaway Re: In floor power/data points 7Aug 12, 2014 5:08 pm Old post resurrected by cableaway. Found these the other day. :- http://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/888641 ... p2pwh.html Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: In floor power/data points 8Aug 13, 2014 12:41 pm That's a much better price. We did something like this for a client years ago but it was in a timber floor and the client bought a metal box with a fancy faceplate and our sparky dummied up the power point to fit inside. The locally bought ones were a horrendous price at the time. I can see where these would be very handy but you would be locked into your room layout once they were installed. Stewie Re: In floor power/data points 9Aug 13, 2014 7:45 pm Stewie D I can see where these would be very handy but you would be locked into your room layout once they were installed. I had considered one of them for the floor in the living room for mum's lazyboy recliner, but decided that it would indeed lock the room layout in, so thought she could sit nearer the wall and put a extension cord to the chair instead. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: In floor power/data points 11Aug 13, 2014 9:24 pm You'd have to work out your layout carefully but you could still move your furniture around. The only thing of course is that you would see a blank plate on the floor. Not that great if it is a tiled or timber floor and the plate is in the middle of the room. Stewie Re: In floor power/data points 12Aug 13, 2014 9:30 pm I'm thinking of using it in a room which literally has about 1 meter of wall - two sides are bifold doors and the other two are completely open so it should actually give me more flexibility re furniture layout - I remembered the the twins put one in on the fan vs favs and then got busted for not using it to plug in a lamp - but good point re furniture placement <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=62083">viewtopic.php?t=62083</a><!-- l --> Re: In floor power/data points 13Aug 14, 2014 8:17 am If you could get the faceplate a similar colour to your finished floor it would fade into the background and be hardly noticeable no matter where it was on the floor. Bear in mind that some of the ones I've seen have a 1 - 2mm faceplate that sits above the floor not actually flush with the finished surface so they could be a slight trip hazard. Stewie Re: In floor power/data points 14Aug 14, 2014 8:49 am That's a great idea Stewie thanks and yes I would aim to have in just 'underneath' a table or lounge to reduce the chances of tripping <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=62083">viewtopic.php?t=62083</a><!-- l --> Re: In floor power/data points 15Aug 14, 2014 11:22 am The original one I did was in a Victorian terrace and the faceplate was about 6mm polished brass to match the in-floor brass AC duct grates. I drew the outline on the floorboard then carefully routered it out down to 6mm deep then inserted the faceplate into the rebate. It looked pretty smick by the time it was all done. End result was that it was flush with the floor and no tripping hazard. Stewie Re: In floor power/data points 17Aug 19, 2014 4:12 pm I actually think data points should not be installed these days. Wireless data is very fast and cheap these days. I would suggest it is only a few hundred for a good router that can deliver more bandwidth than you could use (even with high definition video etc.). Re: In floor power/data points 18Aug 19, 2014 4:44 pm I'm not so sure about that. Wireless is OK and a lot handier if you want to move your devices around but I know a couple of people who stream their Hi-rez movies and TV episodes from their computer to their TV via cable who suffer lag if they try the same thing over wireless. One has tech gear less than a year old, the other maybe two. Stewie Re: In floor power/data points 19Aug 19, 2014 9:00 pm Only use wireless for portable items, otherwise it is hardwired to everything else. Wireless is certainly fast enough for accessing the internet, even via the NBN, but if you want to serious move data around your house, you can't get it faster than wired. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: In floor power/data points 20Aug 22, 2014 9:58 pm Stewie D [...] suffer lag if they try the same thing over wireless. bpratt [...] if you want to serious move data around your house, you can't get it faster than wired. I would ask people to actually buy an 'n' class router and do a test on location, before spending too much on a wired system. If the test fails and there are pauses or other types of lag then the router can still be used because you will want wireless anyway for iphones and other portable devices. Alternatively you can sell it on ebay for half it's price or so. The test would consist of taking a laptop and streaming 4 or 5 movies at once. The router would cost less than $200 (probably closer to $100 i'm not sure). HD TV takes a few megabits per second whereas 'n' class routers are supposedly 100 times that speed (300 Mb/s). While it's true they don't actually operate that fast in the physical world, it seems they do give at least 50 Mb/s for real-world users. If the issue is not lack of bandwidth but in fact pauses due to interference then I can understand the concern, because it can often be too much hassle too fight interference. But there are technological solutions such as routers that use a difference frequency if there are problems on the main frequency. Also most video playing software (like windows media center) will automatically grab the next 10 or 20 seconds of video in case there are momentary delays. It doesn't help with time-sensitive things like games but that is one of the few situations where you want zero delays. If you're referring to Eufy homebase, then just put a switch between a datapoint and put the homebase elsewhere near another device in your home unless you want teh… 9 13845 Scientists have used random matrix theory to demonstrate theoretically that the neutrino mass hierarchy can be explained mathematically. When a substance is fragmented… 21 20651 Would also like an opinion from anyone that has used xcem over hebel for floors. Thanks 1 14227 |