Browse Forums Renovation + Home Improvement Re: Emily and Mike's Vic Miners Cottage Reno - Piccies Added 23Mar 25, 2011 9:38 pm Emily Us.... Me:35 Mike:40 Maddie:3 Abby:1 I've got a thread!: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=45435 Progress: Town Planning Application Submitted Re: Emily and Mike's Vic Miners Cottage Reno - Piccies Added 24Mar 25, 2011 10:04 pm Emily Us.... Me:35 Mike:40 Maddie:3 Abby:1 I've got a thread!: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=45435 Progress: Town Planning Application Submitted Re: Emily and Mike's Vic Miners Cottage Reno - Piccies Added 25Mar 25, 2011 10:14 pm Emily Us.... Me:35 Mike:40 Maddie:3 Abby:1 I've got a thread!: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=45435 Progress: Town Planning Application Submitted Re: Emily and Mike's Vic Miners Cottage Reno - Piccies Added 28Mar 27, 2011 1:41 pm Here are the other pictures from the more recent reno done in about 2007.... we had an opportunity of 6 weeks where my Parents in Law were going to Europe, so we could stay at their house, so we had a very short time frame. Goals for this reno were modest - just fix and beautify the floor and the walls.... simple? yeah right! jobs were: rip up the carpet replace old boards with new to match the new boards from last time replace old skirting boards with new to match new skirts from last time rewire and new powerpoints polish floor boards repair damaged plaster paint all internal walls the carpet came up fine, and we saved some bits that were in very good condition and had them overlocked so we could use them as rugs. the point of having the floorboards was that we were planning on having kids, and since the lounge room is the lounge, dining and play room, we wanted a surface that could deal with food spills etc. during the previous reno we had recycled boards that were still useable, but now that we were going to polish, we needed to replace the old boards. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ I had to search a bit carefully to find boards that would match - i thought i had the name of the wood correct, but found out that there are 2 types of 'grain' - one with small whorls and one with large whorls. i am glad i went out to the lumber yard and viewed them for myself, becasue i THOUGHT I had the larger style, but it turned out that we actually had the one with smaller whorls. we had quite a bit of trouble locating a lumberyard that would sell us such a small uantity of wood - we needed 50 lineal metres or something similar, and i think if i had my time over, the cash that we saved from the first reno using the old boards was probably not worth the effort and money given the trouble I had getting the new stuff. as it turned out though we are super lucky we DID do this, as we found out that one of the bearers replaced in the previous reno was actually badly positioned, and it had moved about a centimetre, making it not sit on the joists anymore - the carpenter commented that it was being held by 'skyhooks' Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ the carpenter also found that the joists in the hallway were all sitting directly on dirt in some places, rather than ontop of flashing that would prevent rot - i was so mightily peeved that the job was not done correctly the first time but so relieved that we had a chance to rectify the situation before rot had set into the joists - it also showed me the benefits of having a tradesman that actually went that little bit further - he was a bit more expensie but had come highly recommended and i was so glad i had him that i sent him a card and $100 bunnings voucher after paying him just to say thanks for the extra efforts. i was not able to be present when the first reno occurred as i was a first year teacher at that time, and hubby was working too - we had really not supervised each stage very rigorously, but this time i was there at least twice per day and i think the extra effort to geth there and look at every piece of work really helped. we replastered the parts that were damaged by the rising damp - its laden plaster, so we had to chip off the old plaster to get to the brickwork below, clean the brickwork then use rendering plaster to replaster. new cornicing for the hallway Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ trying out paint colors Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ i wanted to go bold and colourful withthe paint choices - the colour was a soupy insipid green that was very blah, and i love being surrounded by clear bright colour. but i am no designer and was really having trouble. i found out about dulux colour consultants while looking at the paint selector on the dulux website - it cost $100 but you got a 10% off up to the value of $100 for purchasing the paint, so in then end it didnt cost us that much i gotta say she was fantastic - i was very skeptical at the start but she totally 'got what i was talking about and we chose some colours that really suited the images in my head (not everyones cp of tea, but i love them : and excellent bright sea blue for the hallway: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ a buttery yellow for our master bedroom: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ a 'granny smith apple' green for the study/kids bedroom (not knowing if we would have a boy or girl at that stage!): Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ and a really soft china blue for the lounge, she even helped pick the tint of the boards to complement the colours: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ what was perhaps an extra bonus were the suggestions for painting the cupboards white (they had previously been the colour of the walls), and the inside face of the hallway arch, and the corbels, in white - you can see those in the hallway shot above... those little touches reallt brought out details in those areas and i would never thave thought of those touches myself. because of the very limited timeframe, and the experience I had picked up in project management since the last reno, felt alot more organised and on top of the work schedule than i had previously. and i used a program called microsoft office project manager - it allows you to put in all of the tasks and details and their dependencies on other tasks and, as well as the thime frames. i found that when i was talking to tradies i could pull this plan out and show them how their timing would impact on the other tradies - im sure most of them thught i was a crazy woman, but it did serve to reinforce the fact that i was onto them.... i have not got that program on this laptop, but i will scan the paper version in for next time. I will definitely be using it again for the extension, even though i assume the site supervisor will have their own stuff. Emily Us.... Me:35 Mike:40 Maddie:3 Abby:1 I've got a thread!: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=45435 Progress: Town Planning Application Submitted Re: Em & Mike's Vic Cottage Reno - Second Reno Pictures Adde 29May 24, 2011 12:08 pm Thanks for posting all your pics up! Great to follow a renovation of a terrace which is quite similar to ours. We have just started, and I am blogging the progress here: http://207young.blogspot.com/ Will definitely be following this thread! Good luck with it! =) Follow the renovation of our Inner West terrace: http://207young.blogspot.com Re: Em & Mike's Vic Cottage Reno - Thoughts on council chick 31Jun 01, 2011 3:54 pm just a bit of a vent really..... Ahh bugger. after bascially NOTHING happening for weeks and weeks, we finally had a preapplication meeting with the council yesterday and the planning officer basically canned the project. Her concerns were: the biggest problem - its an overdevelopment - which i can kind of understand given the size of the land, however, its not any different from stuff that has already been built around this area, so I feel quite frustrated. Living amenity: She suggested that we are not capitalising on the available light and suggested the kitchen/dining space should go on the top level and the bedrooms on the bottom. the husband and building designer were all gun ho about this, and nodding their heads saying 'yeah we can do that' but they didnt think about the fact that this would be splitting up the 'lounge' area and the 'dining area' across 2 levels - this is what frustrates me most i think, as i have spent lots and lots of time thinking about the way we LIVE and interact, and having the kitchen/dining upstairs and the lounge downstairs really doesnt fit with the way i want my family to work! i suppose the 3 against 1 situation that then developed was a bit stressful.... i know they were trying to appease the council officer, but im pretty annoyed about it. there are other ways to capture the light available from the laneway down the side without having typical windows - opaque glass bricks being the first thing that springs to mind. i dont love them, but i can definitely see that building with them on the laneway wall would really let in light. BUT she did suggest something that i had not thought about - spinning the lower courtyard doors around and locating the kitchen at the back would mean that the dining area would open up onto the courtyard, letting in both light and increasing the space's useability. it means more plumbing to get the kitchen connected but i think that would be worth it for the extra visual space percolation: she was talking about the ResCode minimum percolation standard, and i had to ask numerous times if we had to meet the condition of 20% avaialble land for percolation, or did the fact that we had less than that on the proposed plan but were improving what we actually ALREADY have at the moment counted for anything. she grudgingly agreed that improvement was better than nothing and then when i asked what other factors could work in favour of that she suggested a water tank. but it took about half an hour to get to that point and i had to keep revisiting as she was not giving me a straight answer site coverage: this also annoyed me, as most places in richmond are all almost completely covered - its virtually impossible to have 40% of your land not built on when you only have 5m x 30m to play with.... Private open space: i know that this definitely could be more, and lots of people have mentioned that as a suggestion here. so i can do that. back to the drawing board Emily Us.... Me:35 Mike:40 Maddie:3 Abby:1 I've got a thread!: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=45435 Progress: Town Planning Application Submitted Re: Em & Mike's Vic Cottage Reno - Second Reno Pictures Adde 32Jun 02, 2011 8:20 pm To be honest I probably share most of her concerns. The over development is a biggie for me and I think you should scale back what you are trying to achieve here. However having said that I wouldn't have thought it is a planning officers job to comment on things like natural light or the lack there of. Does it adhere to the ResCode, does it shadow neighbours, are you looking into private spaces, street scape etc are all the things she should be concerned about. You do have the advantage of a corner block and it would be a shame not to use it but I certainly wouldn't do glass bricks (they've had their day!). Probably not what you want to hear but I'd start again. Go back to basics, redefine your brief and come up with another concept (all very easy to say when it's not my money but you get my point I'm sure....) Renovation Thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=38489 Re: Em & Mike's Vic Cottage Reno - Second Reno Pictures Adde 33Jun 02, 2011 11:03 pm i thought you might say that biff it will not overshadow any properties - the laneway is the northern face of the block and the sun falls onto the big development next door but those windows are bathrooms, stairwells and laundries. strange that they oriented the flats that way.... wont have windows looking into others' open spaces streetscape will match the block to the other side, who extended up and out (though they have retained a backyard as a parking space) its not exactly a corner block though - the laneway is only as wide as a driveway and the place next door overshadows most of the sunlight to our place except when the sun is quite high in the year. there was some dodgie stuff going on when they built it about 12 years ago. at the moment we never have enough sunlight to leave the light off in the lounge except around midday but we are going ahead, whatever the plan ends up being, because we have been around and around that argument! all that we are faced with now is figuring out what will work! Emily Us.... Me:35 Mike:40 Maddie:3 Abby:1 I've got a thread!: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=45435 Progress: Town Planning Application Submitted Re: Em & Mike's Vic Cottage Reno - Second Reno Pictures Adde 34Jun 10, 2011 11:04 pm I think it could be well worth your while to talk with an architect. If you're desperate not to pay the fees ask about doing the project management yourself. We've enlisted everyone who has looked at our house for their ideas. Builders, draftsmen, all the tradies, even a mate who's an architect helped us out with a couple of minor details. But ask around for a recommendation and ask them to come out for a preliminary chat. The extra cost could well pay off on such a small site. I'd look at putting in light wells if light is an issue. Your stairwell could deliver more light. I too would be keen to avoid splitting the living areas into upstairs downstairs. The traditional layout is living down and beds up and I would never want my guests traipsing through my entire house. You might not mind it with close friends but for eg what about your husband's clients? I'm sure you could work around it but think of worst case scenarios everytime and then question if it's really the best solution. If you ever go to sell it will be a tricky floor plan to get a higher price with. Good luck. I'm watching this keenly as I also am keen on smart spaces and your house has a great deal of charm. People make one happy, not houses? I do not think so. Houses are more to be trusted than people. Elizabeth Aston, Mr. Darcy's Daughters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmDX0tgONFs http://lightndreamy.blogspot.com/ Re: Em & Mike's Vic Cottage Reno - Second Reno Pictures Adde 35Dec 04, 2011 2:37 pm Well it's been a while, but we have made some progress. We ditched the building company we had been working with and found ourselves an architectural designer specialising in town planning - this was the best thing we could have done. The place was surveyed, measured and a site feature plan drawn up within the first few weeks of engaging, and we started on sketches and town planning drawings. We had another pre-application meeting with the council, this time with full plans and elevations, which went really well this time and have submitted to council this month. Timeline suggests (if we dont have any objections) that we will have planning permission by january and then start on working drawings. here are the plans submitted - a bit different from the initial plans we had Downstairs: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Upstairs: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Elevations: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The main different features are: * all the dimensions are now correct now that we actually have proper drawings - the previous builder was just giving us concept plans on a 3D modelling program. Having plans in my hands totally changed my perspective on the size of everything * lost the laundry - just not enough room for a seperate one and did not want it in the main family bathroom upstairs, so we moved it downstairs inside the bathroom - think The Block style ... sort of... * lowered second storey roof allowing for increased sunlight into the neighbours on the south side of the house, and the roofline will be split with clerestory windows to allow additional light into the top floor rooms. this will also make for an interesting ceiling line inside * merging of the kids' bedroom upstairs to form one larger bedroom/rumpus that is big enough to house them, their beds plus their toys * flipping the backyard to the end of the block (as suggested by lots of people, finally getting hubby to feel OK with it) and allowing for a kitchen dining opening out to the backyard. * biff - almost felt like i was stealing your idea putting the shower above the stairs... no opaque glass for us though! Just waiting for planning approval now! Emily Us.... Me:35 Mike:40 Maddie:3 Abby:1 I've got a thread!: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=45435 Progress: Town Planning Application Submitted Re: Em & Mike's Vic Cottage Reno - Second Reno Pictures Adde 36Dec 04, 2011 3:01 pm hi emily, nice to hear from you again the house has changed a bit ay! but I am sure it will be really easy to live in and lots of room to spread yourselves out. well done and good luck with council. all the best for 2012 Re: Em & Mike's Vic Cottage Reno - Town Planning Submitted 37Dec 04, 2011 3:15 pm Thanks Kiwi Emily Us.... Me:35 Mike:40 Maddie:3 Abby:1 I've got a thread!: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=45435 Progress: Town Planning Application Submitted Re: Em & Mike's Vic Cottage Reno - Town Planning Submitted 39Dec 07, 2011 9:05 pm Thanks Roba - yes the dining and kitchen is one room, though i wouldnt say its big! Emily Us.... Me:35 Mike:40 Maddie:3 Abby:1 I've got a thread!: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=45435 Progress: Town Planning Application Submitted Re: Em & Mike's Vic Cottage Reno - Town Planning Submitted 40Dec 22, 2011 1:28 pm Emily Us.... Me:35 Mike:40 Maddie:3 Abby:1 I've got a thread!: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=45435 Progress: Town Planning Application Submitted 2 31516 Hi All New to the forum and looking for some advice, has anyone else renovated an old miners cottage in or around Ballarat and been able to identify the flooring? We… 0 8866 Give Jonathan a call. Tell him you know me. He is in my opinion the best surveyor I have ever worked with. His number is 0425 285 622 All the best Simeon 3 12560 |