Browse Forums Renovation + Home Improvement Re: Expertise on keeping large pavers in place driveway 3Nov 13, 2023 6:24 pm Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Expertise on keeping large pavers in place driveway 5Nov 13, 2023 8:58 pm Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Expertise on keeping large pavers in place driveway 7Nov 15, 2023 12:03 am Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Expertise on keeping large pavers in place driveway 9Nov 18, 2023 12:02 am Hi Chippy, Today I’ve gone and bought road base, manual tamper and concrete mix bags so I can do this properly. My question here is, a lot of places mention haunching edges as a way to keep pavers in place. If I was hainching both sides of each paver, do I still need concrete mix underneath each paver (that connects to haunches sides so all connected as one?), is is it sufficient to have the compacted road based, sole bedding sand to level pavers, and haunch edges all the way vertically on driveway ? (Obviously asking this given pavers will have 50mm spacing rather than all butted up against each other). Thanks again J ![]() @Max23 I'll start by saying I'm not a landscaper (I'm a carpenter) but I've had a bit of experience with paving. If you are planning to drive on them and don't want them moving around I'd say you need to actually run concrete under them first and then bed the pavers on to the concrete with a mortar mix. Basically the pavers will start to see saw as you drive over them if they are just laid on sand. Regular paving that is laid on sand is typically locked together by being hard together and the gaps filled with paving sand and the edges are haunched so everything stays in place as a single unit. With your set up the pavers will move unless they are somehow joined together. You could dig long channels and fill them with a mortar mix and then bed the pavers into that. That would help keep everything in place but obviously a mortar mix isn't as strong as a proper concrete strip footing that then has your pavers bedded in to it. It might be tempting to try a short cut and just compact the sand and then bed in each paver direct in the sand but I know in a year or two everything will have moved and you'll just be pulling it up and redoing it. If it was only a path then I'd say just bedding each paver would be fine but as a trafficable driveway there really isn't any short cuts. Re: Expertise on keeping large pavers in place driveway 10Nov 18, 2023 5:48 pm Max23 Haunching the edges of paving is particularly important when you are using smaller pavers and it's a way of preventing the entire area from moving. In your situation each paver becomes it's own area because they aren't all locked together. I don't think you should be putting sand underneath the pavers at all. If you are paving a large area you can compact and then screed the sand levels and lay your pavers. They then lock together and effectively become one continuous unit. In your situation the car tyre is going to drive off one paver and then land on the next. If there is sand underneath it will slowly compact and push sand towards the middle of the paver then as your tyre moves forward it will compact the bag edge effectively making a see saw motion on each paver. Additionally as you turn the steering it twists each paver. If you are using road base then mix some cement trough it wet and compact it well. Then bed each paver on a mortar mix rather than on sand and bed make the mortar continuous under all of the pavers so that they are joined. If you don't do paving correctly and try to skimp on proper techniques it will shift and move and you will end up redoing it. I've seen many failures from inadequate compaction and a lack of preventing twist from turning if the wheels Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Expertise on keeping large pavers in place driveway 11Nov 19, 2023 11:25 pm Appreciate that Chippy. I won’t do sand under pavers and will connect all up under pavers, however I was going to do: 1) Roadbase compacted with manual hand tamper 2) Then add concrete (mixed by hand) and lay paver. 3) Ensure wet concrete covers width of pavers ave between the 50mm gaps so all connected as one unit. 4) once dry, lay fake turf around and in between pavers. If can’t nail in turf given concrete set underneath /between pavers then may resort to liquid nails /glue to hold turf down. can someone with more experience give me their insight? land is pretty much flat its pretty much at the top of a hill. left and right neighbours are flat in line with my… 0 8523 Hello everyone Please advice me how can I install mesh security window or we cab say mesh flyscreen inside while the pvc plantation shutters are already installed? Is… 0 13585 Those span tables can be pushed a little for a low deck if you dont mind a little flex. 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