Browse Forums Safer Living IP CCTV system recommendations 41Oct 15, 2014 8:59 pm Semi-unrelated post - does anyone have the ADT Security system in their home or know someone who does? I know (from Google) there are a lot of bad news stories out there about them, or about back to base monitoring in general, but I'm after the most constructive advice moreso than subjective biased opinions I called RACV for a quote on their b2b monitoring service but they wanted to have a salesperson call me back so I said don't worry if they can't get to the point and just tell me what they're offering. Chubb also has b2b, and offers some Bosch and Ness systems, but are much more expensive than ADT ($200 vs $1500+) I would like to compliment a back to base monitoring service with some CCTV installed. Hubby bought a NAS system but unfamiliar how that fits in with this (other than to store the recorded data I assume?) Premise is - would like to visibly and clearly show that we have a security system (alarm can be seen, ADT sign can be seen, and camera is also seen from street or back of house to deter anyone even thinking of coming along. Can ADT or any of the other b2b monitoring be "cut off" and so burglars can come in anyway? Thanks guys for anyone who can divulge some info/advice M --- Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 42Oct 15, 2014 9:04 pm ADT monitored alarm systems are good. They charge around $30 a month for monitoring. Ide personally just get a normal alarm installed by an independent security technician. And connect to your phone line to dial your mobile phone if there's an alarm. I used to work for ADT and am a qualified security technician. What ADT install are a basic 4-8 zone alarm system depending on what you request, but where the money is made is the monitoring. You can get a decent 4-8 zone alarm with touch screen keypad installed from $1k - $1600 normally. And there are domestic alarm panels now that support their own smartphone apps when setup. Hills Reliance have the CommNav app NESS have the iComms and aComms apps for iPhone and android. Many options available. Using Tapatalk Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 43Oct 15, 2014 9:10 pm daviboy ADT monitored alarm systems are good. They charge around $30 a month for monitoring. Ide personally just get a normal alarm installed by an independent security technician. And connect to your phone line to dial your mobile phone if there's an alarm. I used to work for ADT and am a qualified security technician. What ADT install are a basic 4-8 zone alarm system depending on what you request, but where the money is made is the monitoring. You can get a decent 4-8 zone alarm with touch screen keypad installed from $1k - $1600 normally. And there are domestic alarm panels now that support their own smartphone apps when setup. Hills Reliance have the CommNav app NESS have the iComms and aComms apps for iPhone and android. Many options available. Thanks daviboy- I understand the POV of having the message sent directly to us, but for me for example, a girl not brave enough to leave work and speed back home to see what's happened, what would I do? I read somewhere even if I say yes please send a Police car to the house, they won't be able to get in to check? Just feel I'm in a stalemate position, no matter what I buy or which brand I choose.. Almost feel like I need to set up some "Home Alone" traps when I'm not home to actually do damage to the intruders! --- Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 44Oct 15, 2014 9:12 pm MyH1Login daviboy ADT monitored alarm systems are good. They charge around $30 a month for monitoring. Ide personally just get a normal alarm installed by an independent security technician. And connect to your phone line to dial your mobile phone if there's an alarm. I used to work for ADT and am a qualified security technician. What ADT install are a basic 4-8 zone alarm system depending on what you request, but where the money is made is the monitoring. You can get a decent 4-8 zone alarm with touch screen keypad installed from $1k - $1600 normally. And there are domestic alarm panels now that support their own smartphone apps when setup. Hills Reliance have the CommNav app NESS have the iComms and aComms apps for iPhone and android. Many options available. Thanks daviboy- I understand the POV of having the message sent directly to us, but for me for example, a girl not brave enough to leave work and speed back home to see what's happened, what would I do? I read somewhere even if I say yes please send a Police car to the house, they won't be able to get in to check? Just feel I'm in a stalemate position, no matter what I buy or which brand I choose.. Almost feel like I need to set up some "Home Alone" traps when I'm not home to actually do damage to the intruders! If an intruder wants to get in, they'll get in. All the alarms and cameras in the world won't stop them. Only to deter Using Tapatalk IP CCTV system recommendations 46Oct 16, 2014 4:06 pm I reckon B2B monitoring is a waste of money. You're better off putting in a gprs system to notify you then you can ring your neighbour. It takes time for patrol cars to get there. Trust me a cop car ain't going to be despatched. Your low priority. Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 47Oct 16, 2014 5:35 pm Crazyk Trust me a cop car ain't going to be despatched. Your low priority. Too true. If your local cops are still using analog radios, you can listen in to them to hear the priorities of a house break-in, unless it is reported the breakers are still on the premises, you will be lucky to see them for ages.... there's just so much other higher priority calls going on in the day, unless you're in Springfield USA where the donut run is 'code 1'. Back to Base alarm systems are promoted so heavily because the companies make gob loads of money out of them. Some will promise to send one of their security guys out, but they charge like wounded bulls for that service ! Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . IP CCTV system recommendations 48Oct 16, 2014 5:50 pm By way of example, my car was hit run, the cops asked of anyone was injured, I said no so they didn't even bother coming out. I asked if they would come out to do a police report they said no because no one was hurt. I never saw a cop car and just had to pay the insurance. We have B2B monitoring at work and it takes them ages to send a car. I know this because I watched the video footage. Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 49Nov 01, 2014 12:26 am daviboy Hi, I'm in the process of planning to build as well. Only thing to worry about during the building phase is getting the correct cabling to the locations of the CCTV equipment. I'm a security technician as my day job, and use this all the time, so when it comes down to my own home, I plan to put in a system that will have optimum resolution but not breaking the budget. Firstly: Cabling: Future proof by running Anything Category 5E or higher. I plan to use CAT6 cabling along with a decent gauge figure 8 cable to carry power. Most IP cameras do run POE but while the cabling is being run, may as well throw in a fig 8 cable. Run to a central location where the NVR (network video recorder) will be kept along with switches and power supplies. If your going IP, IDE go for 1.3 megapixel cameras which is the norm these days. If you want a bit more resolution, can go for the 3mp. A decent budget brand I came across today is Hikvision. They sell very good quality cameras and NVR's. But as said, focus on the cabling while building, the field devices can come along later. Hi daviboy, You have a very good point "focus on the cabling while building". I'm now in building stage, I haven't had my cable provision for the system as Clipsal does not offer this service, instead they can refer me to other company which will further delay the build, so I didn't bother at that stage. My SS is very kind who allow me to install the cable by my appointed technician, however, I'm still very lost, I just don't know what I need to do or request for. Would you recommend company/technician who I can go with for the cabling provision done and for more information/advice please (e.g. cable plan?, where the receiver/recorder kept? and etc). Any idea for the cost? cabling and system installation after handover? Can the system still be installed after handover without cabling provision? Anyone in the forum can help would be appreciated. I'm building in Sydney South West. Thanks a lot!! Redfernpoint Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 50Nov 01, 2014 10:32 am We have an ADT monitored system and basically it's a waste of time. Example - we're holidaying in the UK, we've told ADT we will be overseas, the alarm goes off, they call home, naturally no answer, so they text my mobile and do absolutely nothing more. $30 odd a month for ADT to go "Oh look their alarms gone off and we know no ones home, let's send them a text and they can deal with it" Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 52Nov 01, 2014 12:39 pm Crazyk Yep that's what it's like. A marketing con. Has anyone put in cctv to monitor their building site during construction? I think someone on another topic said Eden brae homes put a wireless CCTV cam on a high pole to do a time lapse of the build. Maybe for their own marketing purposes Using Tapatalk Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 54Nov 03, 2014 3:47 am daviboy Crazyk Yep that's what it's like. A marketing con. Has anyone put in cctv to monitor their building site during construction? I think someone on another topic said Eden brae homes put a wireless CCTV cam on a high pole to do a time lapse of the build. Maybe for their own marketing purposes Hi Crazyk, I have onsite eye from Eden brae, which takes a photo of my site every 10 mins or so, allowing me to login & view these at any time. I also can customise to have a certain time of day emailed to me whenever, thus no need to login to see daily progress (eg: an emailed photo of the site at the end of each day). It's been really handy knowing exactly what stage my build is at so I can coordinate communication about specific requirements I may have to my SS right when it's needed. I monitor all deliveries to site, & watch who is there (if they are there longer than 10mins). It was included in my build cost with EBH, & has worked out really well for me so far. Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 55Nov 03, 2014 4:31 am MyH1Login Semi-unrelated post - does anyone have the ADT Security system in their home or know someone who does? I know (from Google) there are a lot of bad news stories out there about them, or about back to base monitoring in general, but I'm after the most constructive advice moreso than subjective biased opinions I called RACV for a quote on their b2b monitoring service but they wanted to have a salesperson call me back so I said don't worry if they can't get to the point and just tell me what they're offering. Chubb also has b2b, and offers some Bosch and Ness systems, but are much more expensive than ADT ($200 vs $1500+) I would like to compliment a back to base monitoring service with some CCTV installed. Hubby bought a NAS system but unfamiliar how that fits in with this (other than to store the recorded data I assume?) Premise is - would like to visibly and clearly show that we have a security system (alarm can be seen, ADT sign can be seen, and camera is also seen from street or back of house to deter anyone even thinking of coming along. Can ADT or any of the other b2b monitoring be "cut off" and so burglars can come in anyway? Thanks guys for anyone who can divulge some info/advice M Hi MyH1Login, With reference to your query regarding alarms being 'cut off': we had a b2b alarm have its power supply in the ceiling cut off, which then made the alarm draw power from the RJ11 phone line, thus disabling both the alarm & phone line, resulting in both the alarm & phone line not working (no alarm sound due to no power, & no b2b call as extra power draw on phone caused it to act as 'engaged', so unable to dial out to base). That causes a problem if you are using ADSL*, as the phone line is effectively disabled, so even if you use any type of remote Internet monitoring, you can't access it anyway. The battery backup in the alarm itself didnt supply enough power to run the siren without causing draw from the RJ11. Old school, but definitely still a problem (this is not a new house). In the new place, I will have standalone alarm system as a deterrent. Not a lot you can do if they really want to get in. Camera setup will be retrofitted when I decide on system Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 57Nov 15, 2014 6:56 am I have my electrical appt with henley next weel for my new build. im getting a few extra data/tv points/powerpoints added to the build. in regard to all the data points i presume they all get fed back to a panel patch at the point where the NTD (NBN) will be. Does this mean if i add 3 more data points/powerpoints at locations externally on the house i will be able to isolate those 3 spots later on and install a cctv system at my leisure? Thanks Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 58Nov 15, 2014 7:30 am That's correct all data points will return to garage next to NBN provisional location. We were told that Henley doesn't provide external data points for CCTV. But pls let us know how would you go. Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 60Nov 21, 2014 9:20 pm Slattery2 Do they do outdoor powerpoints in external cctv desired locations? I never asked for that. These days most HD cctv cameras are PoE. You don't need a separate power point for each camera. That is very old school method. Scientists have used random matrix theory to demonstrate theoretically that the neutrino mass hierarchy can be explained mathematically. When a substance is fragmented… 21 20667 Once you know the basics, the rest is easy. Read my post in the thread linked below. viewtopic.php?p=1919271#p1919271 2 19520 It's all about wireless, self install now. The cost/benefit of wired setups for the house are no longer what they used to be. Lots of wireless options. Eufy, Arlo and… 2 9796 |