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Apr 03, 2015 6:23 pm
After the stunning success with our art studio
we're pushing ahead with building our next project.... a 2 storey farmstay we're calling an EcoStay.
The plans are with the council now. So while they ponder our application we've been busy taking advantage of the low dam levels and making mudbricks.
We reckon we'll be needing about 2000 for this build.
Re: EcoStay building project3
Apr 03, 2015 9:28 pm
If it rains we run down and cover them with plastic sheet.
Generally we can turn the bricks on their side after one day and then move them after another two days during fine weather.
We can make 200 bricks in a morning
Re: EcoStay building project4
Apr 04, 2015 12:36 am
So cant wait to follow this build.
Given I have the handyman skills of a wombat I am truly in awe of your skills.
Latest build -> viewtopic.php?f=31&t=67024
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Re: EcoStay building project5
Apr 11, 2015 9:32 pm
Despite intermittent rain over the past few days, we now have 1388 mudbricks under cover.
And 120 bags of our mud mortar stored.
Another 250 or so mudbricks are still in the paddock, under plastic.
Our goal is to have 2000 mudbricks in the shed and 200 bags of mortar.
Re: EcoStay building project11
Sep 22, 2016 10:55 am
It's been well over a year since I last posted here.
Life came along and intervened. We never got the Owner Builder permit. The builders registration board put up ever increasingly large hurdles until we got disheartened. The final one was a requirement that we have a registered builder formally employed as a supervisor.
The Mudbrick art studio http://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=70956 has been a great success, to the point that the council have stepped in and halted the art classes we were running there. They now require us to submit planning applications for the building's new use. This will also require us to fill out yet more forms, pay more fees and jump through more hoops. We have an engineer and building surveyor coming today to check everything (again) so we can lodge our "change of use" forms.
We have now completely redrawn the plans for our proposed EcoStay. This building will now be our new house and our current house will become our "EcoStay". Instead of being two storey it will be split level so hopefully that will make the building permit less onerous to obtain. I have done all the drafting myself but the new plans have yet to be stamped by an engineer.
Re: EcoStay building project12
Sep 23, 2016 1:15 am
So, we're going to need a lot of timber for this build. Big chunky lintels, door frames and structural members to match the mudbrick and natural stonework. We've got jarrah trees growing on the property and they make decent building timber, beautiful too. Using a lot of scrap metal, machinery parts and ingenuity I built a sawmill. I can now mill all the timber required for the build. I have the capacity to mill up to 400mm wide by 200mm high and 6m long.
250mm wide door frames and lintels.
Slabs for benchtops and tables. 300mm stair treads.
Now all drying undercover.
So satisfying to be able to produce your own timber. And the dimensions we require..... for a fraction of the cost.
Re: EcoStay building project15
Feb 12, 2018 4:03 pm
It’s been 18 months since my last post here. In that time we got our “public building” status and have been running art classes in the studio.
The EcoStay project ground to a halt when our application for extension on our DA was refused. We had all our engineering and energy efficiency approvals done and were waiting on the BAL report. We had to restart the entire process, now taking into account all the new and updated rules and regulations. Our planning official seemed determined to refuse our every response to the point that we lodged an official complaint about her conduct. After much stress and time we have just been given our extension and the planner has been referred to counselling.
However in the mean time we haven’t been idle. We drew up plans for a couple more sheds, gained council approval and a building permit and have since completed them. We used the experience to trial out a few ideas for the EcoStay build.
The photos didn't appear in order but you probably get the idea. Oddly I don't have any pics of the completed project so I'll just go and take some.
Re: EcoStay building project16
Feb 12, 2018 4:35 pm
The finished job.
Built using stone from the property, our own mudbricks, mud plaster inside and coolroom panels for the roof/ceiling. It's at least 38 outside right now but reasonably cool inside the rooms.
Re: EcoStay building project17
Mar 11, 2018 7:04 pm
Considering our ongoing issues we've had with council's planning department we have employed a building surveyor to help coordinate and smooth the process. The theory being that council staff may respond more favourably to a more highly qualified professional (more qualified than the council officers). So, we have cleared the site and received our BAL compliance certificate and all the relevant paperwork (in triplicate) is with our surveyor. So, once he has verified and endorsed everything we will lodge form BA1 and apply for a building permit.
It was a shame to remove so many trees but "you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette" . I know that once the build is complete and the environment around the site recovers everything will feel like it belongs. The trees and rocks we removed will be re-used as building materials in the house.
Re: EcoStay building project18
Mar 12, 2018 10:18 am
Considering our ongoing issues we've had with council's planning department we have employed a building surveyor to help coordinate and smooth the process. The theory being that council staff may respond more favourably to a more highly qualified professional (more qualified than the council officers).
The independent Building surveyor has the same qualifications as the Council Building Surveyor who is just doing their job, mate.If you wanted to go outside of the NCC building code guidelines you should have employed a design engineer and you would have saved a lot of time & money with less stress.
You should have seriously looked at Stone Veneer Faced Tilt-up Engineered Concrete Panels? Goodluck
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Re: EcoStay building project19
Mar 12, 2018 2:03 pm
I guess you haven't met officers from our local council. Fortunately it seems the "troublesome" one is being moved on.
Stone veneer concrete tilt up panels are not for us. We have an abundance of stone and mud (suitable for mudbricks) on our property and are aiming for as natural and sustainable a build as we can manage by ourselves.
Re: EcoStay building project20
Mar 18, 2018 2:10 pm
Our paperwork is now with the council and we're waiting for our building permit. Fingers crossed.
Meanwhile we're collecting some building ,materials. These free bricks were left over from a commercial builder just down the road. They were destined for the skip bin! So much waste in the building industry.
We'll be using these to form the inside leaf of the foundation retaining walls.
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