Browse Forums Owner Builder Forum Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 121Nov 30, 2015 10:00 pm Stumbled across your build project yesterday, am eagerly following your progress as I am considering building a container home at some stage down the track. Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 122Jan 07, 2016 8:24 pm I'm about to start my verandah and was wanting to run the specs past anyone who knows about such things!!
Firstly (as I'm in an N3 wind region) I think I need to tie down the bearers on the concrete piers with a bent reo bar passing through a bearer and chemically anchored into the pier, and bent over both bearers as in the following image: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ I could only find one example of tie down on concrete stumps to go by in the Residential Timber Framed Constr as.1684.2.2010: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The deck structure is as in the following pic: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The timber I intend using is 140 x 45 F5 treated pine bearers and joists (450 centres) spanning 2300mm. The ledger will be tek screwed to the steel PFC at the bottom of the container and the front will have a double bearer. Joists are inline with bearers and joined using joist hangers. Does this sound ok? With Xmas and New Year and a couple of other distractions the build has been slow. The veggie garden is going well despite the extremely dry spell over the past three months: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ (That's the pumpkins on the left going crazy) And due to the dry weather, the dam level has dropped so I took the opportunity to build a small jetty (somewhere to moor the yacht!) Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ When the dam refills it will sit just above the water level: I love swimming in the dam and it means I don't have to walk out through the clay/mud. Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 123Jan 08, 2016 11:11 am We used to cast a galv. threaded rod into the concrete then use a steel bracket bolted both ways to hold it down as both a vertical tie-down and horizontal positioning. Similar to what these guys do http://ecogrannyflats.com.au/gallery/ Click on the 17th photo in this gallery ( and others ) and you'll see what I mean. A bit more expensive for hardware and you have to get the position of the rods pretty good but a much better way of doing it. Stewie Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 124Jan 08, 2016 11:25 am Thanks Stewie - I think that's the way to go. The angle bracket would be a lot neater - and there are only 6 needed so not too much expense or bother!! BTW - do you think I need to bother with noggins on a 2.4m span with 140x45 joists (Lots of deck pix online don't seem to have them)?? Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 127Jan 09, 2016 1:13 pm waxinggibbous And due to the dry weather, the dam level has dropped so I took the opportunity to build a small jetty (somewhere to moor the yacht!) http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q275/turnstilestex/House%20Blog%20pix/IMG_1790.jpg When the dam refills it will sit just above the water level: I love swimming in the dam and it means I don't have to walk out through the clay/mud. Great idea, you can then avoid those pesky leeches too My build thread: Custom build on 40 acres viewtopic.php?f=31&t=75656 Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 128Jan 09, 2016 7:33 pm Another question: I want to leave out a verandah post so it doesn't obscure views out of the back doors.
Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Can someone tell me how to work out what size LVL to use to span the 4800? (The green beam in the pic.) The other spans (red) are the same distance (2400) as the deck so I thought I'd use the same: 140 x 45. Should this be ok? (The bottom chord of the first truss runs right over the top of the verandah posts and red and green beams and is 90 x 35) The posts are 100 x 100 pine. Cheers. Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 129Jan 09, 2016 8:52 pm The Residential timber framed Construction Code AS 1684.4 does not have tables with spans up to 4800. I suggest you go to your supplier of the LVL beams and get therm to run computer calculations to determine the beam size. You may also need to consider how to prevent the LVL beam from twisting. Are you building in BAL bush fire risk area?, this will affect whether you can use an LVL timber beam or a steel beam. Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 130Jan 09, 2016 10:35 pm Hi Beetaloo - I have a LVL span table but not sure how to use it.
Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ I've worked out my RLW is 1.5, and my roof weight should not be more than 10kg/sqm (my chosen metal roofing is about 5kg/m) so if I am using the table correctly it looks like I could use a 170 x 63 (4. or 190 x 45 (4.9). (Though I really sucked at Maths!!) Am I reading it right?? Also my bushfire rating is BAL-LOW - so no real bushfire concerns. Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands - Veranda Beam 131Jan 10, 2016 8:59 am I think you have interpreted the table correctly however I can think of 2 more things to consider. Even in a low BAL area, the roof needs to be sarked and be ember proof. You will probably need to line the underside of veranda roof. This will add weight to the veranda beam (i.e. a total of 20kg/m2). This would require a 200x63LVL beam (As there is only one veranda beam of this size this should not increase the overall cost of your build by too much). The LVL beam typically has a profile of a Capital I. You should consider the detailing of your fascia & gutters or barge boards (depending on which way the roof falls) You also should try to eliminate exposed horizontal ledges where embers could build up. Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 132Jan 10, 2016 9:33 am Someone just brought up an interesting point - my trusses span the entire length of the verandah and will therefore mitigate the weight/stress on the verandah beams and perhaps much reduce the necessary size of them for support. The first truss will actually sit upon the verandah posts and whatever cross members are attached to these posts. So I'm wondering if this is the case then perhaps as I will still need beams across post to post (as this is the level at which the verandah roof joists need to be fixed) then perhaps I will just make them all 140 x 45 for aesthetic purposes! Does this sound logical? (And I can still line the underside of the verandah joists as you mentioned.) Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 134Jan 10, 2016 9:31 pm Hi Beetaloo - these two plans are the ones the engineers gave me:
Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ And these are the SketchUp images I developed from the engineers plans - hope they make sense to you!! Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 135Feb 01, 2016 12:47 pm I have all the timber for the back deck and verandah posts and was just about to start building it when I realised that the deck ledger will completely cover a row of welds where the containers meet the steel plates set into the concrete piers. All of my welding must be inspected before it is covered.
I am thinking I should do some other bits of welding first and get them all inspected at the same time. (I have to install about 12 - 75x75 steel posts as additional support around window and door openings. It means cutting through the exterior container walls which til now I've been reluctant to start.) Internal steel support plan: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Veggie garden has gone feral in the last 3 weeks - the water tank was a blessing as we had one of the driest past 3 months in years. I'm harvesting rhubarb, mint, rocket, beetroots, capsicums, basil and the spinach is about a week off picking. Rhubarbs and pumpkins battling for the central path! Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ My containers are now visible from satellite on Google maps: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The fierce storm that hit Eastern NSW on Saturday battered my land. I drove to Sydney that morning to buy a toilet, shower screen, laundry tub, bathroom sink and some minor fitting and was driving back through the thick of it on the way home on the Motorway. Cars were crawling along at 50-60kph. Worst weather I've yet driven in. Arrived at my land to drop off purchases (cardboard boxes were like soggy bread!) and there was water everywhere. It filled the dam to overflowing. By sheer luck I had the jetty level just at the right height so that at maximum capacity the deck bearers are 50mm above the water!!: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Pumpkins were peppered with little holes from the hail. A few rhubarb stalks snapped off but overall not too much damage. Decided to get some basic bathroom things so when I get the plumber to quote he knows what he'll need to plumb for (mainly the toilet outlet). The shower will be a basic wet room type with no door just the fixed screen. Would like a long narrow S/Steel grate drain but they are pretty pricey for what they are. Will search around to see if there are any bargains to be had! The laundry tub is the smallest I could find (380mm x 550mm x 870mm) as mine rarely gets used for anything and I'm required by Council to have one. Was pleased to find the Back-to-wall toilet suite for $200! The vanity basin (690 X 395 X 130mm) was $99, laundry tub $169 and the shower screen (2000 x 1000 x 10mm) $189. (If you're NSW and want to know where PM me) I also bought a tile insert floor waste for $20. Was happy with all the prices. Purchases (not the tap or the shower head): Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 136Feb 03, 2016 5:34 pm You have done very well on your purchases. We also have a tile insert floor waste and it looks great. Good job on the dam jetty too! My build thread: Custom build on 40 acres viewtopic.php?f=31&t=75656 Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 138Feb 17, 2016 5:21 pm waxinggibbous Thanks MnT - how's that new grass of yours growing? It's getting there but will be very patchy once its all grown. The week it was blown on we had the strongest winds you could imagine so there was large sections that just blew away!! And then to top it off every bird in god's creation got wind of 'free seeds' so they decided to dine out for the next 6 weeks. It wasn't until the good rain in mid January that it started to germinate. But it's better than bare dirt My build thread: Custom build on 40 acres viewtopic.php?f=31&t=75656 Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 139Feb 17, 2016 6:01 pm Quote: It's getting there but will be very patchy once its all grown. The week it was blown on we had the strongest winds you could imagine so there was large sections that just blew away!! Sounds just like the sort of luck I have!! I'm fully expecting the fiercest winds in a century to start blowing the moment I start building the roof! Re: Tondelver House - Southern Highlands 140Feb 19, 2016 5:36 pm waxinggibbous Quote: It's getting there but will be very patchy once its all grown. The week it was blown on we had the strongest winds you could imagine so there was large sections that just blew away!! Sounds just like the sort of luck I have!! I'm fully expecting the fiercest winds in a century to start blowing the moment I start building the roof! That's building for ya My build thread: Custom build on 40 acres viewtopic.php?f=31&t=75656 Thank you so much everyone. This all makes a lot of sense. I guess when you talk to a builder who butters up everything to look very polished, you get to start believing… 8 2249 hi guys. Please be nice. First time home builder in Qld. I would like some feedback please on whether I should build my granny flat first before my main house at the… 0 955 |