Browse Forums Owner Builder Forum 1 Sep 09, 2012 10:45 pm hi i just wondered if anyone had any idea's on the best way to package and ship upvc windows from the uk.... am i best speaking to someone like crown imports who handled our belongings when we came to oz....i understand they'll need to go into a container. its the best way of getting them in there and safely to our doorstep that i'm struggling with...do i pack them into some sort crate and put that in the container?...wrap them in bubble wrap and hope for the best ... any advice would be appreciated the price difference between the uk and australia appear to make it a worthwhile endeavour.... thanks shoots Re: packaging upvc windows for import 2Sep 10, 2012 7:48 am shoots hi i just wondered if anyone had any idea's on the best way to package and ship upvc windows from the uk.... am i best speaking to someone like crown imports who handled our belongings when we came to oz....i understand they'll need to go into a container. its the best way of getting them in there and safely to our doorstep that i'm struggling with...do i pack them into some sort crate and put that in the container?...wrap them in bubble wrap and hope for the best ... any advice would be appreciated the price difference between the uk and australia appear to make it a worthwhile endeavour.... thanks shoots UK windows don't comply with Australian standards, so it will be a risk if your building inspector spots them. Meanwhile, it's not the wrapping of the windows so much as the stuffing of the container to prevent movement that matters. Yes they are still too expensive here, try our aluminium double glazed Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: packaging upvc windows for import 3Sep 10, 2012 10:40 pm Aluminium is still terrible with heat transfer. the thermally broken aluminium is good but is twice us much as pvc here! Have you checked with eurotech windows in melbourne. they have pvc and natalia is amazing. she sorted out all our windows and gave us same great ideas to save money like fixing some windows, awning instead of sliding etc etc. Also the prices were quite competitive. and the quality is amazing. also ed is right without a australian standard sticker your windows wont pass a building inspection. Re: packaging upvc windows for import 4Sep 10, 2012 11:15 pm lachlanmiller Aluminium is still terrible with heat transfer. the thermally broken aluminium is good but is twice us much as pvc here! Have you checked with eurotech windows in melbourne. they have pvc and natalia is amazing. she sorted out all our windows and gave us same great ideas to save money like fixing some windows, awning instead of sliding etc etc. Also the prices were quite competitive. and the quality is amazing. also ed is right without a australian standard sticker your windows wont pass a building inspection. There is little difference between quality double glazed aluminium & PVC, and certainly not enough to pay any difference in cost. Then there are the problems with PVC... detailed in another thread. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: packaging upvc windows for import 5Sep 10, 2012 11:23 pm Having seen both in the flesh and reading the potential issues with UPVC I am fine paying the premium to get thermally broken aluminum..... and to be honest its not heaps more than the windows that were specified to begin with. Now the only issue I will have to worry about is curtains for inward tilt and turn. Ciao Mark Re: packaging upvc windows for import 6Sep 11, 2012 7:57 am AussieMark Having seen both in the flesh and reading the potential issues with UPVC I am fine paying the premium to get thermally broken aluminum..... and to be honest its not heaps more than the windows that were specified to begin with. Now the only issue I will have to worry about is curtains for inward tilt and turn. Ciao Mark In Melb... http://www.mokush.com/ "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: packaging upvc windows for import 7Sep 11, 2012 11:02 am thanks everyone but i didnt really want the thread to turn into a uk vs aus thread but advice is always welcome. ed, ive emailed you and pm'd you a window schedule for you to quote re packaging....if i decide to go down this route... i'm thinking build a glass type rack inside a container and strap the windows to this.....luckily i have a chippie brother in law in the uk who i hope i could persuade to do this.... any other idea's shoots Re: packaging upvc windows for import 8Sep 11, 2012 1:19 pm shoots thanks everyone but i didnt really want the thread to turn into a uk vs aus thread but advice is always welcome. ed, ive emailed you and pm'd you a window schedule for you to quote re packaging....if i decide to go down this route... i'm thinking build a glass type rack inside a container and strap the windows to this.....luckily i have a chippie brother in law in the uk who i hope i could persuade to do this.... any other idea's shoots Dunnage bags... between container and products and in between products... packed tightly and tied down. We learned the hard way. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: packaging upvc windows for import 10Sep 12, 2012 6:13 pm We have thermally broken aluminium. We had quotes far in excess in this quote for uPVC windows. Whilst the original cost may seem cheaper, to get accredited window may actually cost more in the long run. Settlement 1/2/12 New Shed 23/3/12 Slab poured 27/3/12 Frame complete 4/5/12 Roof complete 1/6/12 LOCKUP 29/6/12 Our new build blog http://kareenhillsownerbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: packaging upvc windows for import 11Sep 12, 2012 8:47 pm My quote for thermally broken Alu was about 15% higher than uPVC Re: packaging upvc windows for import 12Sep 16, 2012 5:25 pm If you worried about tilt and turn windows, have a look at Trend who do thermally broken in sliding, awning, sash. Or at Classic, but I don't know what styles his come in. If you don't mind me asking what brand have you settled on? Settlement 1/2/12 New Shed 23/3/12 Slab poured 27/3/12 Frame complete 4/5/12 Roof complete 1/6/12 LOCKUP 29/6/12 Our new build blog http://kareenhillsownerbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: packaging upvc windows for import 13Sep 16, 2012 6:54 pm Hi Delatite I am looking at Casver. I have seen the product up close and like it. The price is about 40% more than the commercial quality windows specced by my builder. Cheers Mark Re: packaging upvc windows for import 14Sep 16, 2012 11:10 pm Hi Mark, As curiosity does I went into their website to check them out. I suppose I am a bit of a "doubting thomas" but there is bugger all info on their windows there. I also checked out the WERS site at http://www.wers.net/Certified-Products-Residential for both residential and commercial and Casver windows are not listed there as having been rated under the WERS scheme. Are they made in Australia? If so why have they not been WERS rated? If not made here are they approved to Australian standards and why have they not bothered to get them rated?. Sorry if this seems to be having a go at you, I am asking just so you are aware of what you are buying and the company is not pulling the wool over your eyes. I wouldn't want you to come unstuck. Windows cost enough as is. If they are imported please be aware that they may not comply with Oz standards legislation, and building inspectors/insurance companies may reject them. I really would not want that to happen. If they have WERS spec please compare them to other similar windows on the list, as your price quote of 40% more than your builders seems at face value to be a lot. As a guide we paid under $20K for 19 double glazed thermally broken aluminium windows including 2 sliding doors one just over 3.5m wide. The rating whilst not the best available is still very good, but everything has a price, including insulation. Just for your info. Settlement 1/2/12 New Shed 23/3/12 Slab poured 27/3/12 Frame complete 4/5/12 Roof complete 1/6/12 LOCKUP 29/6/12 Our new build blog http://kareenhillsownerbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: packaging upvc windows for import 15Sep 22, 2012 1:56 pm hi OP i imported a load of stuff from UK to here for my house build. The most fragile thing would of been induction top, and fridge with glass door. if they crate the windows , it should be pretty secure, as the crate is very sturdy. It does cost more though. Also depends on the handlers. The fridge survived the trip to Sydney ports, but the front panels got smashed somewhere from the ports to the address in Sydney. Probably because we took the fridge out of the crate to fit on a truck. It's a lot of work, but the savings for us were worth it! Re: packaging upvc windows for import 16Oct 09, 2012 9:53 am hi unfunkable the windowmcompany has ofered to crate the windows but think i'm going down the route of .....buy a container....brother inlaw to pack..ship over...use container as storage during build and sell at the end... shoots Re: packaging upvc windows for import 17Oct 20, 2012 9:28 pm ed @ ecoclassic UK windows don't comply with Australian standards Hi Ed, I can't imagine for one second that Aus made DG windows are better than UK windows, but just to satisfy my curiosity what exactly is different that makes them not comply? Re: packaging upvc windows for import 18Oct 21, 2012 7:24 am jparrie ed @ ecoclassic UK windows don't comply with Australian standards Hi Ed, I can't imagine for one second that Aus made DG windows are better than UK windows, but just to satisfy my curiosity what exactly is different that makes them not comply? The Australian standards call for double the water resistance compared to ISO. Windows must be tested to that standard to comply. This will also mean that the larger sizes for windows and sashes will have a reduced terrain (wind & water) rating, so what works in the UK won't work for the same size here. So a window say 2100 x 1800 that rates N2 in the UK may fail here. On top of that, you have the temperature differences in Australia which vary by up to 50 degrees, making large windows impractical due to the linear coefficient of expansion for PVC being 5x that of steel, so PVC grows by 6mm over 2000mm over 50 degrees C. Then there are bushfires... PVC melts at 160 degrees C. IMO,stick to white (dark colours can absorb radiant heat and 6mm can be 12mm), don't make them too big, and get them tested to AS2048. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 3 4162 There is evidence of water on the head reveals. That could have happened during the build, or may be happening currently. There are water stains above a couple of windows… 2 3830 Personally, considering your layout (study/work desks in bedrooms), I don't think you have any other option but to leave NW windows and make them as big as possible e.g.… 7 10470 |