Owner Building a PAAL Camden in the Lower Hunter Valley
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Not so positive this evening......still not fixed. It's worse
Oh that's so unfair
PS What a great idea re your grass
PS What a great idea re your grass
Help!!! Advice please.......
Third guy on the job yesterday.....and it seems we have progressed backwards once again.
What would you advise me to do to get this job fixed up to an acceptable level?
The guy yesterday glued the range chimney to the wall....there is glue coming out the sides onto the wall and outside of the chimney.
There is now a kink in the chimney (just below the white plaster patch) that wasn't there before.
The guy yesterday was a builder........but the cornice got the better of him and this is where he finally said "I can't do it" and this is how it was left.
We have built a WHOLE house with less dramas and stuff-ups that have been had with a simple rangehood installation.
Third guy on the job yesterday.....and it seems we have progressed backwards once again.
What would you advise me to do to get this job fixed up to an acceptable level?
The guy yesterday glued the range chimney to the wall....there is glue coming out the sides onto the wall and outside of the chimney.
There is now a kink in the chimney (just below the white plaster patch) that wasn't there before.
The guy yesterday was a builder........but the cornice got the better of him and this is where he finally said "I can't do it" and this is how it was left.
We have built a WHOLE house with less dramas and stuff-ups that have been had with a simple rangehood installation.
Oh LJ I have no great ideas sorry
It doesn't look like it should be that complicated is it the meeting of the cornice due to the raised pattern that is creating the issue?
The only thing I can think of is perhaps get the dimensions for the cornice around the range hood then have it cut and perhaps mitre the edges so the join is seamless on the ground and then get someone into install the ranghood and put up the cornice.
It doesn't look like it should be that complicated is it the meeting of the cornice due to the raised pattern that is creating the issue?
The only thing I can think of is perhaps get the dimensions for the cornice around the range hood then have it cut and perhaps mitre the edges so the join is seamless on the ground and then get someone into install the ranghood and put up the cornice.
Small amount of progress.....
I installed 3 roller blinds yesterday - on the western windows to keep out the heat.
Got them from blindsonline - easy peasy.....so easy to install and the measurements were spot on. If you are tossing up between getting a blind mob to supply and install or to do it yourself, believe me - it's easy peasy!! Each blind took about 10 minutes.
Kitchen window
Laundry window
Also an update on the rangehood situation - have been promised a brand new rangehood in light of the damage that has been done to the existing one, they are booked in to come tomorrow (but then again, they were booked in to come last week). I'm not sure how they will remove the old one as it is glued to the wall and it is also riveted together so dismantling it may prove difficult. Anyway....waiting patiently and hoping for the best outcome
I installed 3 roller blinds yesterday - on the western windows to keep out the heat.
Got them from blindsonline - easy peasy.....so easy to install and the measurements were spot on. If you are tossing up between getting a blind mob to supply and install or to do it yourself, believe me - it's easy peasy!! Each blind took about 10 minutes.
Kitchen window
Laundry window
Also an update on the rangehood situation - have been promised a brand new rangehood in light of the damage that has been done to the existing one, they are booked in to come tomorrow (but then again, they were booked in to come last week). I'm not sure how they will remove the old one as it is glued to the wall and it is also riveted together so dismantling it may prove difficult. Anyway....waiting patiently and hoping for the best outcome
Hi - Thanks for the idea about blinds online it looks good and I will check them closer to that time in my build.
regards
PS re your wall I would get a gyproc specialist in. My experience with large cornices is that the average guy can't put them up, there is too much weight and the join needs to be perfect. Also can't understand why they glued your flue to the wall. A small bracket either side would have been easier and neater.
regards
PS re your wall I would get a gyproc specialist in. My experience with large cornices is that the average guy can't put them up, there is too much weight and the join needs to be perfect. Also can't understand why they glued your flue to the wall. A small bracket either side would have been easier and neater.
YAY!!!!
Don't care how he fixed it yesterday....just damned happy he did
Almost ready to close the book on this episode........just the cornice to repair then all's good again
Don't care how he fixed it yesterday....just damned happy he did
Almost ready to close the book on this episode........just the cornice to repair then all's good again
Our next project this summer is to "paint" the outside of the house and fence in the front yard. We have about 4000 bricks and plan to build a fence (I don't know what the style is called.....but there are posts and a bottom skirt bit and there will be steel panels in between......I'm sure there is a name for that style, but it escapes me lol)
Bricks delivered this morning.....
My concept drawing of the arbour that will be incorporated into the fence........it will match the style of the front portico on the veranda.
Bricks delivered this morning.....
My concept drawing of the arbour that will be incorporated into the fence........it will match the style of the front portico on the veranda.
The arbour looks gorgeous!
Your home is so beautiful and you have done the most AMAZING Job!!
If you do not mind, can I ask you some questions??
Hubby and I have just bought our dream 'Renovators Delight' in the Hunter Valley and after starting renovation, we found the Pest Inspector was blind.....
Needless to say we are back to our first thought of building a Paal home. Can I ask, honestly, how has the experience been? We are fairly handy and feel we should be able to do it but you hear such mixed reviews of difficulty.
Also, we are tossing up between the 'Camden", she sighs with longing
Thank you so much for your reply, it is wonderful to find someone who has built the home we are considering in a suburb close to us. I will be asking for advice on tradesman (who to give a big MISS!!)
Thanks in advance.
If you do not mind, can I ask you some questions??
Hubby and I have just bought our dream 'Renovators Delight' in the Hunter Valley and after starting renovation, we found the Pest Inspector was blind.....
Needless to say we are back to our first thought of building a Paal home. Can I ask, honestly, how has the experience been? We are fairly handy and feel we should be able to do it but you hear such mixed reviews of difficulty.
Also, we are tossing up between the 'Camden", she sighs with longing
Thank you so much for your reply, it is wonderful to find someone who has built the home we are considering in a suburb close to us. I will be asking for advice on tradesman (who to give a big MISS!!)
Thanks in advance.
Hi jbandbt,
Thank you for your questions......are you sitting down?
Our slab alone was $40,000......391sqm - and we priced around a lot on that.
As a rough guide - take the price of the kit home and double it, take the time you think it will take to build and triple it and then you'd be pretty close to costings and time factors.
My husband and I are both pretty handy too and found that most of the construction side of things was beyond our skills - and when we're spending this kind of money we wanted the end result to be good......so we ended up paying trades for most of the major jobs.....and they ain't cheap!! LOL. The frame was something we were able to do - as promised by PAAL, but we did get a fixer in to just rough it out....money well spent. It then took many months to finish - might have had something to do with my husbands @nal streak, or the fact that it was only the two of us doing it. Lots of physical work involved....and working at heights - when we were doing the trusses and roof battens we invested in a 6ft rolling scaffold....then stood a 6ft ladder on the top of that, then stood on the top of the ladder and reached above our heads to get to the highest point of the truss........a bit hairy at the time and probably broke all rules regarding safety but shhhhhh....
As far as trades costs go, from memory these are the major jobs:
Slab $40,000 (Inc materials and labor etc...)
Brickwork $12,000 labor (Inc chimney) plus $2,000 for sand and cement
Roof $9,500 labor only plus $2,000 for roof insulation blanket not included with kit price (colorbond roofing, guttering, downpipes and facia all included in the kit)
Plumbing $11,000 (Inc drainage and all materials and labor) - only taps and bathroom fixtures included in kit
Electrical $8,000 (Inc all wiring and labor) - only lights, power points and light switches inc in kit...oh, and 2 outside coach lights.
Plastering $9,300 Labor only - All gyprock, glue, screws and topcoat inc in kit, but we purchased our own cornices. Ceiling and external wall insulation was included.
Tiling $4,500 Labor only (tiles, glue and grout inc with kit)
Flooring $25,000 (Inc floorboards, carpet and all labor involved)
Carpenter $5,000 Labor only for skirting and architraves....and some shelving that still isn't finished.
Fixer $1,200 Labor only
Driveway $12,000 (materials and labor)
Earthworks approx $4,000 (Inc initial levelling for slab, various bobcats and fill and topsoil for landscaping....still not finished but getting there)
You would also need to factor in demolition costs, council costs (Our council costs and water board costs were about $4,000), bushfire and flood reports, soil testing, surveyors, temporary fencing hire, stinky loo hire, dumping fees.......ouch, brain hurting...can't think of anymore...
I think that's the bulk of it. Most of the materials come with the kit - plumbing and electrical don't - though the fixtures and fittings do. We sourced our own bricks so they didn't come with our kit and at the time PAAL credited back the brick allowance at $800 per 1000 bricks. Shower screens aren't included as they need to be specifically measured once tiling is complete. Window coverings can cost a lot if you go high-end. I would also suggest that you soundproof INTERNAL walls as they tend to be a bit rattly and echoey.
As a rule you will need to get your finances in order FIRST - most banks DON'T lend to Owner Builders (there are threads in the forum regarding which banks do lend and how much...some 60%-80%) - I'm not presuming to know about your financial status.....you may be MILLIONAIRES, and well done
Hope this helps you to be able to come to a decision. Please feel free to pick my brain at anytime......can't guarantee my memory is 100% LOL, but I put that down to trying to put the memory of the build all behind me......my husband on the other hand is considering OB'ing another house sometime in the future!!!! AArrrgggg....a glutton for punishment!
Lyndall
Thank you for your questions......are you sitting down?
Our slab alone was $40,000......391sqm - and we priced around a lot on that.
As a rough guide - take the price of the kit home and double it, take the time you think it will take to build and triple it and then you'd be pretty close to costings and time factors.
My husband and I are both pretty handy too and found that most of the construction side of things was beyond our skills - and when we're spending this kind of money we wanted the end result to be good......so we ended up paying trades for most of the major jobs.....and they ain't cheap!! LOL. The frame was something we were able to do - as promised by PAAL, but we did get a fixer in to just rough it out....money well spent. It then took many months to finish - might have had something to do with my husbands @nal streak, or the fact that it was only the two of us doing it. Lots of physical work involved....and working at heights - when we were doing the trusses and roof battens we invested in a 6ft rolling scaffold....then stood a 6ft ladder on the top of that, then stood on the top of the ladder and reached above our heads to get to the highest point of the truss........a bit hairy at the time and probably broke all rules regarding safety but shhhhhh....
As far as trades costs go, from memory these are the major jobs:
Slab $40,000 (Inc materials and labor etc...)
Brickwork $12,000 labor (Inc chimney) plus $2,000 for sand and cement
Roof $9,500 labor only plus $2,000 for roof insulation blanket not included with kit price (colorbond roofing, guttering, downpipes and facia all included in the kit)
Plumbing $11,000 (Inc drainage and all materials and labor) - only taps and bathroom fixtures included in kit
Electrical $8,000 (Inc all wiring and labor) - only lights, power points and light switches inc in kit...oh, and 2 outside coach lights.
Plastering $9,300 Labor only - All gyprock, glue, screws and topcoat inc in kit, but we purchased our own cornices. Ceiling and external wall insulation was included.
Tiling $4,500 Labor only (tiles, glue and grout inc with kit)
Flooring $25,000 (Inc floorboards, carpet and all labor involved)
Carpenter $5,000 Labor only for skirting and architraves....and some shelving that still isn't finished.
Fixer $1,200 Labor only
Driveway $12,000 (materials and labor)
Earthworks approx $4,000 (Inc initial levelling for slab, various bobcats and fill and topsoil for landscaping....still not finished but getting there)
You would also need to factor in demolition costs, council costs (Our council costs and water board costs were about $4,000), bushfire and flood reports, soil testing, surveyors, temporary fencing hire, stinky loo hire, dumping fees.......ouch, brain hurting...can't think of anymore...
I think that's the bulk of it. Most of the materials come with the kit - plumbing and electrical don't - though the fixtures and fittings do. We sourced our own bricks so they didn't come with our kit and at the time PAAL credited back the brick allowance at $800 per 1000 bricks. Shower screens aren't included as they need to be specifically measured once tiling is complete. Window coverings can cost a lot if you go high-end. I would also suggest that you soundproof INTERNAL walls as they tend to be a bit rattly and echoey.
As a rule you will need to get your finances in order FIRST - most banks DON'T lend to Owner Builders (there are threads in the forum regarding which banks do lend and how much...some 60%-80%) - I'm not presuming to know about your financial status.....you may be MILLIONAIRES, and well done
Hope this helps you to be able to come to a decision. Please feel free to pick my brain at anytime......can't guarantee my memory is 100% LOL, but I put that down to trying to put the memory of the build all behind me......my husband on the other hand is considering OB'ing another house sometime in the future!!!! AArrrgggg....a glutton for punishment!
Lyndall
Weekend achievement......the achievements are getting smaller and smaller, but require more and more effort on our part - those of you in our boat will fully understand.
Anyway.....Door Painted TA-DA!!
This is a door at the end of our front hallway.....tossed up leaving it "Timber", then decided to paint...
Before:
After Undercoat and 2 coats......keeping our fingers crossed that the plastic covering the glass was still in good enough condition for an easy peel off (Door was hung 12 months ago....and delivered on site 12 months before that)
TA-DA!!...I'm thanking the person who invented the plastic over glass concept! THANKYOU
Anyway.....Door Painted TA-DA!!
This is a door at the end of our front hallway.....tossed up leaving it "Timber", then decided to paint...
Before:
After Undercoat and 2 coats......keeping our fingers crossed that the plastic covering the glass was still in good enough condition for an easy peel off (Door was hung 12 months ago....and delivered on site 12 months before that)
TA-DA!!...I'm thanking the person who invented the plastic over glass concept! THANKYOU
Looks greatr and Wow who would imagine painting it would have such a great affect
A few more things ticked off the list over Christmas/New Year
Kitchen Splashback finally tiled - the capping tile looks a weird colour in this photo....in real life it's not so bad lol!
A slab of Grey Ironbark for the mantle.
And what are your thoughts on my woven leather wall hanging? Most people have turned their nose up at it (I think it was originally meant to be a floor rug) and call it "Gross".....I call it "Filling a blank space" hehe
Kitchen Splashback finally tiled - the capping tile looks a weird colour in this photo....in real life it's not so bad lol!
A slab of Grey Ironbark for the mantle.
And what are your thoughts on my woven leather wall hanging? Most people have turned their nose up at it (I think it was originally meant to be a floor rug) and call it "Gross".....I call it "Filling a blank space" hehe
Hi LJ
Great photos and your splashback looks great! Re the wall hanging its not my thing but I def wouldn't call it gross!!
Great photos and your splashback looks great! Re the wall hanging its not my thing but I def wouldn't call it gross!!
Thanks AKB
Here are some photos of shapes, textures and furniture that is in our home......I loosely refer to my style as "Eclectic", but maybe "old-fashioned" would be more appropriate LOL!!.....or maybe I just don't fit into a neat box
Here are some photos of shapes, textures and furniture that is in our home......I loosely refer to my style as "Eclectic", but maybe "old-fashioned" would be more appropriate LOL!!.....or maybe I just don't fit into a neat box
Ohhh I love your server trolley and your buffets I agree eclectic is your style - which happens to be the same as mine........love it all I've been holding off buying anything until we finish but your house has got me all excited again
Ps about 15 years ago we bought chesterfield lounge suite about 4 years ago we decided to update to something modern I know what was I thinking! Couldn't throw the chesterfield out so it got split up all around the house about 6 months ago the new modern suite made it to the council scrap heap and the chesterfield is back in the lounge room
Ps about 15 years ago we bought chesterfield lounge suite about 4 years ago we decided to update to something modern I know what was I thinking! Couldn't throw the chesterfield out so it got split up all around the house about 6 months ago the new modern suite made it to the council scrap heap and the chesterfield is back in the lounge room
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