Browse Forums Owner Builder Forum 1 Feb 05, 2010 8:37 am We are planning on doing this ourselves. Does anyone know what tools/accessories I need? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 2Feb 05, 2010 8:59 am You need to use self tapping screws with large washers - at least 20mm - screwed at 450mm centres. So you need a lot of screws, washers and a good screw gun... Andy Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 3Feb 05, 2010 7:43 pm I have done this. My advice is that you hold off till you are very close to bricking. (this prevents wind damage over time) You should also advise your brick layer as they will need to tec on their brick ties rather than useing clip ons (this will also add to the fastening of the wrap) The use of a cordless tech gun and someone else to pull the wrap square will also speed up the process. Remember to start at the bottom and wrap the home, then overlap the top layer and secure with aluminium tape. Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 5Feb 08, 2010 8:27 pm Got the wall wrap at a very good price of $124.95 for a 60m roll. Still a few days before we need to install it. The guy said we need joining tape and buttons. What do I need to look for when buying the buttons and joining tape? Just get the most expensive ones? Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 6Feb 08, 2010 10:42 pm The buttons are a large backing for the screws to hold the wrap on (could be a washer as 'andy the pm' implied. Ther are also other plastic buttons - perhaps contact the wrap supplier to see what they advise. You only need to hold the wrap until the bricks are in place - as the additional brick ties will add to the wraps support, and protect it from wind damage. The joining tape is simply aluminium backed tape - dont get cheep nasty cloth tape as it needs to hold for many years. Again a reputable building supplier should be able to help you here. Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 7Feb 09, 2010 1:39 pm Thank you Hills Guy. Re: To ensure effective performance and satisfactory lifespan, radiant barriers such as Bradford Enviroseal Wall Wrap must be installed with a minimum airspace of 20mm to the foil side. Is this referring to the airspace between the wrap and gypbrock? If so, since it goes directly onto the frame, does that mean it's performance will not be maximised since we will be putting insulation inside the wall gaps :S Our steel frame is only 75mm.... Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 8Feb 09, 2010 2:08 pm You will need to put spacer blocks (they are self adhesive foam blocks) onto the foil (gyprock side) then put the insulation bats in. This provides some air space between the wrap and the bats. Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 9Feb 09, 2010 9:42 pm Hills Guy You will need to put spacer blocks (they are self adhesive foam blocks) onto the foil (gyprock side) then put the insulation bats in. This provides some air space between the wrap and the bats. Thanks! Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 10Feb 10, 2010 6:49 pm Contacted CSR re: tools and accessories required and here is what they replied with: You will need to first of all use a good double sided tape to secure the foil to the frame work. To provide extra support for the foil use “teks Screw” with suitable washers at the “Top Plate” and all the overlapping areas. Please make sure that the screws are of the same material as the framework to avoid galvanic corrosion. A good idea would be to coat the screw ends with an anti-corrosive paint. Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 11Feb 10, 2010 6:52 pm gettingThere Contacted CSR re: tools and accessories required and here is what they replied with: You will need to first of all use a good double sided tape to secure the foil to the frame work. To provide extra support for the foil use “teks Screw” with suitable washers at the “Top Plate” and all the overlapping areas. Please make sure that the screws are of the same material as the framework to avoid galvanic corrosion. A good idea would be to coat the screw ends with an anti-corrosive paint. I wish they could have recommended a "good" double sided tape and the size of Teks Screws we need.... Re: Please make sure that the screws are of the same material as the framework Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 12Feb 11, 2010 7:42 am gettingThere I wish they could have recommended a "good" double sided tape and the size of Teks Screws we need.... Re: Please make sure that the screws are of the same material as the framework They just mean use galvanised or plated steel screws if you have steel framing, don't use brass. As for size, I can't tell you the exact size but they wont be big, just pop down to your local hardware store and tell them what your doing, they should be able to steer you in the right direction. Personally I would use more screws than they suggested, as hills guy mentioned previously if you leave the wrap on for a few days and there is a strong wind it could blow it off the frames. Andy Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 13Feb 11, 2010 4:50 pm Screwing on a few temporary battons (along the length of the stud - in addition to the screws and buttons) on the windward side offers a lot of additional support for the wrap. Those evening breezes up here sometimes get quite strong. Simply have the brickies remove them when working in the area. Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 14Feb 12, 2010 9:24 pm Side Note After recent problems (mainly in Qld) Try not to screw or staple through the frame and into live power leads. *This shouldn't be a problem for you at this stage, but you may want to make sure your electrician dosent secure his wires on the protruding screw points later on Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 15Feb 13, 2010 7:43 am Hills Guy Side Note After recent problems (mainly in Qld) Try not to screw or staple through the frame and into live power leads. *This shouldn't be a problem for you at this stage, but you may want to make sure your electrician dosent secure his wires on the protruding screw points later on My partner is doing all the electrical work, will make sure he keeps an eye on this. Thanks for that Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 16Feb 15, 2010 12:06 pm I have contacted quite a few of foil insulation installers and it is interesting how they all use different methods! These all all the responses I've had: fibre washers (about 1 inch diameter) and metal screws clips - pieces conduit pipe cut into sections 2cm long and split at one side they hold the insulation very well and will work perfectly in this situation. a combination of some self drilling tek screws with large diameter washers and a 'fast grab' polyurethane glue such as max-bond or 'seal-n-flex'. If it's a still day, the glue option would be faster. galvanized hex-head Tek screws tek screw fasteners with plates + green tape hex head screws and some hoop iron for the walls foil tape only. Never use staples or screws with Foil Insulation Re: Installing Wall Wrap on a steel frame 17Feb 25, 2010 7:37 pm We ended up using JUST the foil tape (Air Cell brand). Also bought class 3/galvanised hex tek screws and rubber washers, but it wasnt really working out so we left it out. 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