Browse Forums Owner Builder Forum Re: Secret Nailing T & G flooring 61Mar 17, 2011 10:07 pm You don't pull out the nails. They just get punched and filled. You don't need to many nails. Only in hollow spots. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Secret Nailing T & G flooring 62Mar 31, 2011 6:46 am Thanks chippy. Which nailer do you recommend for this? (nailing through timber+concrete) Re: Secret Nailing T & G flooring 63Mar 31, 2011 6:47 am Realistically speaking, how long would it take 3 guys to lay 200sqm of Standard width timber flooring (direct stick to concrete)? All three guys are experienced. Re: Secret Nailing T & G flooring 64Mar 31, 2011 7:14 am By "direct stick" you mean "glue alone" (no nails of any kind)? BTW, I heard that direct stick of long boards (ie. "standard" t&g flooring) mostly happens in WA, due to the climate. My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Secret Nailing T & G flooring 65Mar 31, 2011 9:29 am blueblueblue Thanks chippy. Which nailer do you recommend for this? (nailing through timber+concrete) You don't use a gun. You use a 3mm masonry bit to drill through the timber and into the conc. You then hand nail a concrete nail in. They are a friction fit and only about 25-30mm long depending on thickness of boards. You nail around the perimeter of the room to keep the boards down and then as the boards are installed and clamped up you nail every 5th or 6th row to keep them tight. You then tap over the floor and any hollow areas get a nail put in it to pull the boards down into the glue while it sets. The nails are really not holding the flooring, the glue does that. They really just keep everything in place while you are laying and the glue is setting. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Secret Nailing T & G flooring 66Jun 05, 2011 8:56 pm lol 200m2 took me 9 months to install...but not to scare you. Concrete prepin', grinding leveling, plywood underlay and finally laying the boards. First time i've laid flooring and it might very well be my last! Concrete work was the worst, rest wasn't too bad. Took so long because I did it over weekends and few hrs a day. My wood (tas oak) definitely needed cramping, built a jig from some offcuts of wood, nails 45deg into the ply, then lay a timber across it, then a car jack to push some pieces of timber. I could achieve a max of 6 rows per time but took alot of effort as I find most of them need to cramped in to avoid the gaps...my timber wasn't so crash hot as I notice tollerance differences of +0.7mm to -1.0mm so I had to measure and sort my stock piles....now i wonder why i took so long. Even with all this, I still have a few gaps here and there due to will/machining standards. After the job has finished, i wonder a direct stick would be better in the case of floor or damages. I can only imagine going over the top...ripping out the ply with all those anchors in place would be a hell of a task. I tried ripping off a small piece off the ply after its dry and the ply tags along with the glue! With direct, rip, grind and u can do it again (just in case) I'm hiring a pro to sand/polish! Jimbo73 I would use heaps of adhesive on each sheet and screw rather than nail. use as many as you like cheers Simeon 1 4064 1000000% definitely add insulation. I have in my home and it makes a big difference minimising sound transfer. Insulation is pretty cheap and definitely worth it 2 6191 Engineering timber is certainly a less fuss option, times cheaper to supply and install and better withstands humidity. 1 15907 |