Browse Forums Owner Builder Forum 1 May 03, 2009 6:11 am OK here's an interesting one. I have 3 quotes for structural steel. Two of the steel installers will install after the strip footings and garage slab are down, but before any of the subfloor or frame goes up. The third installer, and the cheapest by a few $1000, plans to install after the sub floor and ground floor frame is up. He said that way he is 100% confident all his steel is in the correct locations. I quite like the sound of this option. I was a bit concerned about the structural steel being in the wrong place, because I can't move it myself, whereas I can move the frame. Does anyone have any experience with any aspect of either of these options? Thanks JB Re: The relationship between the frame and the structural steel 2May 05, 2009 7:01 pm Hey JB What is the structural steel for exactly? I mean obviously steel such as beams etc for upper levels will be on after the framing, but steel posts etc that are being tied into cocrete pad footings area a different story Re: The relationship between the frame and the structural steel 3May 05, 2009 7:09 pm hunts01 Hey JB What is the structural steel for exactly? I mean obviously steel such as beams etc for upper levels will be on after the framing, but steel posts etc that are being tied into cocrete pad footings area a different story It's both. There's the beams for the upper levels and the posts tied into the concrete footings which will support them. JB Re: The relationship between the frame and the structural steel 4May 07, 2009 10:37 am JB, I helped my cousin build his house and he had a fair bit of steel in it. We put all lower level frames up, put in the triple studs etc and extra support for where the steel sat and then winched it up. We dug our own pad footings and poured our own concrete and bolted the post to the pad footing and then welded that to the beam that was spanning across the lower floor. Without being a qualified builder I would say that this is the best way to do it, considering that you have access to the pad footings to work with the post. I suppose you could pour the pad footing with the foundations as i am going to do and then attach the post later. Seems to be that it would be easier to adjust a steel beam back or forward mm and weld it up than alter the whole frame to make it fit! Re: The relationship between the frame and the structural steel 5May 07, 2009 11:08 am hunts01 JB, I helped my cousin build his house and he had a fair bit of steel in it. We put all lower level frames up, put in the triple studs etc and extra support for where the steel sat and then winched it up. We dug our own pad footings and poured our own concrete and bolted the post to the pad footing and then welded that to the beam that was spanning across the lower floor. ! Can I ask what did you do about the floor? Because I assume that you had to cut through the floor to get the steel posts in to be able to bolt them to the pads? Thanks, you are helping a lot. JB Re: The relationship between the frame and the structural steel 6May 07, 2009 9:11 pm No worries, it was just yellow tongue on the flooring and we cut out the bit that the post went through, much like the stair opening which we covered originally then cut it out later. Re: The relationship between the frame and the structural steel 7May 08, 2009 5:10 am hunts01 No worries, it was just yellow tongue on the flooring and we cut out the bit that the post went through, much like the stair opening which we covered originally then cut it out later. Thanks. That is what I believe we are doing. Of course the foot of the post is bigger than the rest of it so I presume you have to cut a bigger hole out and then replace it later. JB Re: The relationship between the frame and the structural steel 8May 08, 2009 3:27 pm No as the end of the post has a flat piece of steel welded to it. We actually put the post in lined it up there abouts and bolted the plate to the ground then stood the post on top in exactly the right spot, held it in place and then welded it onto the bottom plate affixed to the concrete pad. Good luck Hi I am wanting some opinions about the build of a steel shed I am going to get one about 4.5 x 2.5 m steel shed and the height will be about 2.3-2.4m high The one I am… 0 14458 This is 100% true. You can not hang anything on steel frames. very frustrating 8 8045 Hi, I have a steel frame house which was built 2 years ago. When you are down stairs you can hear clunking noises when someone is walking around. We were told if you… 0 4461 |