Browse Forums Eco Living 1 Aug 01, 2007 6:51 pm Blacktown Council on the outskirts of Sydney has been listed as a Solar City - that means that there are pretty large discounts for solar panels for electricity and solar hot water!
Our block of land is coverd by this Council and thank goodness the program I think will run until 2011. http://www.blacktownsolarcity.com.au/householder.shtml As an example, the 1kW system is $5k fully installed. I've checked out a few other solar providers and the going rate seems to be around $7.5k for an equivalent size. Does anyone know if you can start off with a small system like 1kW - and then later on add more panels as finances allow? Re: Woohoo - we may get solar panels! 2Aug 01, 2007 7:11 pm Pretty sure you can -
Just plan the layout for the final cell configuration and this will make sure the invertor is big enough to cope with the final current (Amps) you will be generating. Steve Re: Woohoo - we may get solar panels! 4Aug 02, 2007 10:50 am Hi stonecutter1309,
Are you looking at this as a way to save money? If so, you will be sorely dissapointed. Sorry to spoil it but you may as well know before you make your final descision. Here is the maths: Typical annual output from a 1kw system in a year: 700 KWH Typical upper end cost per KWH: 15 cents Annual saving: 700 x 15 cents = $105 Now put $5000 in the bank at 6.5% intrest Deduct inflation at 2.5%: 4% Annual return: $200 Deduct Tax at lets say 40%: $120 So you are marginally better off and your assett is not depreciating. If you use a level playing field and allow depreciation: No deduction of inflation so rate remains at: 6.5% Annual return: $325 Deduct tax at 40% leaves: $195 So you are quite a lot better off. That said, they helps the environment and they are really cool ![]() Re: Woohoo - we may get solar panels! 5Aug 02, 2007 11:17 am No - certainly not doing it to save money! Solar panels may start saving you a decent amount of $$ in around 10 yrs (when things like Sliver Solar technology gets in to full swing with retail production)
More as a social responsibility thing. We have enough $$ to afford to be a bit more environmental. We were also told we don't need a rainwater tank under BASIX as we get recycled water - but will be putting one in anyway so that we can water the extensive fruit & veg plantings we'll be doing. We want to eat according to seasons and avoid buying fruit & veg from supermarkets, fruit & veg shops as much as possible. Mind you - we're also putting in this bloody huge lawn coz we like it ![]() Re: Woohoo - we may get solar panels! 6Sep 17, 2007 10:06 am ![]() Does anyone know if you can start off with a small system like 1kW - and then later on add more panels as finances allow? if you want to upgrade later you have to spend a bit more up front as Yak_Chat said you have to get a bigger inverter that I have been geting quotes for and add between $1500-$4500 depends on brand and upgade!! GRD 1000 at normal price with larger inverter – extra $1630. This will permit you to add to the original system of 8 panels, 4 panels at a time, twice, until you have added 8 more panels. This will allow your total system to reach 2080 watts. Alter the GRD 1000 $13900 by adding 2 extra panels, extra racking and a larger inverter that lets you add 1 more panel at a time, until you reach 16. So you start with 10 panels, and can expand to 16 panels which gives you a 2080 watt system. The extra cost for this is $4220. Unlike the inverter in the first option, which gives no read out and needs to be internally mounted, this model gives a read out and can be externally mounted. and then if you go bp panels it get to be even more Supply, Installation & Commissioning of Solar Grid-connected Solar Power Systems We are pleased to offer a grid-connected solar power system for your house. 1K W Solar Energizer solar system $14,900 (6 x 165 watt BP Solar panels & 1700 watt inverter) Installation, subject to site inspection, including all electricians costs $3,000 Total installed system cost $17,900 Photovoltaic Rebate Program (PVRP) rebate - $7,920 BP Solar Enviro Cash Back - $ 495 Net out-of-pocket cost to you, after all rebates have been paid $9,495 Notes: 1. System expandable to 12 x 165 Watt panels 2. Installation varies, and is subject to site inspection. 3. Deposit of 10% to be paid upon ordering. 4. Balance of materials to be paid prior to delivery to site. 5. Balance of system cost payable on completion of installation. Rebates are claimed after system is installed. 6. All work performed by BCSE accredited staff, with worksafe procedures being observed at all times. 7. Any charges by Energex for inspection of wiring or changeover of meter are to be paid directly to Energex by the customer. as you can see we would get $8 per watt from government and 50 cents a watt from bp. We too have enough $$ to afford to be a bit more environmental. Also they are already talking about making the buy back 2 to 1 or even better so the money side of it could get better sooner than you think. And one last thing to bp systems come with this cool little talking point!!! http://www.springers.com.au/Products.aspx?ProductID=748 Re: Woohoo - we may get solar panels! 7Sep 17, 2007 10:07 am ![]() Does anyone know if you can start off with a small system like 1kW - and then later on add more panels as finances allow? if you want to upgrade later you have to spend a bit more up front as Yak_Chat said you have to get a bigger inverter that I have been geting quotes for and add between $1500-$4500 depends on brand and upgade!! GRD 1000 at normal price with larger inverter – extra $1630. This will permit you to add to the original system of 8 panels, 4 panels at a time, twice, until you have added 8 more panels. This will allow your total system to reach 2080 watts. Alter the GRD 1000 $13900 by adding 2 extra panels, extra racking and a larger inverter that lets you add 1 more panel at a time, until you reach 16. So you start with 10 panels, and can expand to 16 panels which gives you a 2080 watt system. The extra cost for this is $4220. Unlike the inverter in the first option, which gives no read out and needs to be internally mounted, this model gives a read out and can be externally mounted. and then if you go bp panels it get to be even more Supply, Installation & Commissioning of Solar Grid-connected Solar Power Systems We are pleased to offer a grid-connected solar power system for your house. 1K W Solar Energizer solar system $14,900 (6 x 165 watt BP Solar panels & 1700 watt inverter) Installation, subject to site inspection, including all electricians costs $3,000 Total installed system cost $17,900 Photovoltaic Rebate Program (PVRP) rebate - $7,920 BP Solar Enviro Cash Back - $ 495 Net out-of-pocket cost to you, after all rebates have been paid $9,495 Notes: 1. System expandable to 12 x 165 Watt panels 2. Installation varies, and is subject to site inspection. 3. Deposit of 10% to be paid upon ordering. 4. Balance of materials to be paid prior to delivery to site. 5. Balance of system cost payable on completion of installation. Rebates are claimed after system is installed. 6. All work performed by BCSE accredited staff, with worksafe procedures being observed at all times. 7. Any charges by Energex for inspection of wiring or changeover of meter are to be paid directly to Energex by the customer. as you can see we would get $8 per watt from government and 50 cents a watt from bp. We too have enough $$ to afford to be a bit more environmental. Also they are already talking about making the buy back 2 to 1 or even better so the money side of it could get better sooner than you think. And one last thing to bp systems come with this cool little talking point!!! http://www.springers.com.au/Products.aspx?ProductID=748 Re: Woohoo - we may get solar panels! 8Sep 17, 2007 11:49 am Thanks! It doesn't look too pricey to go the upgraded inverter.
And that wireless gadget is awesome! Re: Woohoo - we may get solar panels! 9Nov 03, 2007 5:55 pm Just thought I would let you know that most (3 of the 4 mobs) that I have got quotes from said that they will put up the $8000 rebate for you while you wait the 8 or so weeks to get it back from the government ![]() Re: Woohoo - we may get solar panels! 10Nov 04, 2007 5:48 am That's always good to hear ![]() Re: Woohoo - we may get solar panels! 11Nov 04, 2007 12:23 pm Remember to ask them about the carbon credits. I've been to the seminar on Photovoltaics and the speaker said that a few hundred bucks should be taken off the price for them. My father rode a camel, I drive a car, my son flies in a jetliner, his son will ride a camel.Saudi saying Hi Josh & Eve, thanks for the info, we have decided to play it safe and have 3 phase installed if it is available, would rather be safe than sorry. cheers, Lynne 12 5890 I think the proposal that a supply and demand curve are a natural law are well exaggerated. Wages never seem to follow this curve, and also prices for supply are sticky… 18 7997 Go to an actual paint store, not bunnings. Dulux even have trade centers. Don't have to be a trade to but their paint. 1 6086 |