Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 2May 06, 2008 5:09 pm 'chelle We have a hand-over date...15/10...but I won't hold my breath! http://people-in-glass-houses.blogspot.com/ Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 6May 06, 2008 10:38 pm mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 8May 06, 2008 11:28 pm mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 10May 07, 2008 8:51 am My Blog... http://ahouseonthehill.blogspot.com/ Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 11May 07, 2008 3:43 pm I know they are pricey but you really can't beat Pioneer for plasma's. They come with 5 year warranty and they install it for you (they even hooked up our foxtel and surround sound system). We got the 50" for our living room and mounted it on the wall.....love love love it!! Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 12May 07, 2008 7:38 pm Hi Jac.
I know you believe that (that you can't beat Pioneer plasmas), and that's great. You certainly are correct in proclaiming that they come with a great warranty. But I don't agree with the notion that the Pioneer plasmas can't be beaten. For my eyes (and I've been looking very closely at all of these types of devices for years now - from back in the days when an LG SD 42" plasma with no tuner was $8000) I've not seen any current Pioneer plasma that suggested it was any better than equivalent models from the likes of say Panasonic, Samsung or Sony. I'm not saying the Pioneer ones are not as good either. As Matt was saying, it's in the eye of the beholder and really a matter of taste (I've stood next to someone who was trying to convince me that the brand A plasma we were looking at "CLEARLY" gave a better picture than the brand B one in front of us, when I honestly thought the win clearly went the other way...). I think Missy's attitude is right on too. As long as you think it looks good and fits the criteria like what she used, that's the one for you. Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 13May 07, 2008 9:07 pm Rodda As Matt was saying, it's in the eye of the beholder and really a matter of taste (I've stood next to someone who was trying to convince me that the brand A plasma we were looking at "CLEARLY" gave a better picture than the brand B one in front of us, when I honestly thought the win clearly went the other way...). actually its not really in the eye of the beholder. Most of these things can be measured, or at least critically reviewed by those who know what they are looking for and know what makes an accurate image. now people might think they prefer an image that isn't accurate, and people are very susceptible to clever marketing in the showroom by manufacturers to make their set stand out from the others (i.e. boosted contrast and colour saturation) but the reality is these things don't make for a good picture or a better set than the one next to it. In some ways its like Bose - people think its good gear, its small and 'sounds good, really good bass' - but in reality those in the know are aware that it is overpriced and just really well marketed. There certainly are differences between different brands of Plasma, at the upper end there may not be as much in it, particularly for the untrained eye, but it is unquestionably there. The trouble is that people don't know how to evaluate what makes a good image, and the showroom is typically the worst place to evaluate the real potential of a display. Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 14May 07, 2008 11:06 pm pasey25 actually its not really in the eye of the beholder. Most of these things can be measured, or at least critically reviewed by those who know what they are looking for and know what makes an accurate image. now people might think they prefer an image that isn't accurate, and people are very susceptible to clever marketing in the showroom by manufacturers to make their set stand out from the others (i.e. boosted contrast and colour saturation) but the reality is these things don't make for a good picture or a better set than the one next to it. In some ways its like Bose - people think its good gear, its small and 'sounds good, really good bass' - but in reality those in the know are aware that it is overpriced and just really well marketed. There certainly are differences between different brands of Plasma, at the upper end there may not be as much in it, particularly for the untrained eye, but it is unquestionably there. The trouble is that people don't know how to evaluate what makes a good image, and the showroom is typically the worst place to evaluate the real potential of a display. Errrr... and .... Ok now I am confused!!! Pasey whilst what you have said is basically true....what is the point of the statements? Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 15May 08, 2008 8:37 am Pasey.
---> " There certainly are differences between different brands of Plasma, at the upper end there may not be as much in it, particularly for the untrained eye, but it is unquestionably there. The trouble is that people don't know how to evaluate what makes a good image, and the showroom is typically the worst place to evaluate the real potential of a display. " I never said there were no differences, in fact my comments illustrated quite clearly that there were. I'm refuting the notion that one brand produces a better picture than the rest - that is the point that is subjective, or in other words "in the eye of the beholder". Accurate is actually a term that is generally not used to describe picture as a whole. You wouldn't really use the word accurate when describing picture qualities like contrast or brightness for example. It's usually only used when describing colour - that is an aspect where manufacturers do strive for accuracy (because accuracy or something very close to it is something that can actually be attained). For the other aspects its a case of basically just getting the best result they can from the technology (eg. blacks and low-level or shadow detail are areas where we are still not yet at nirvana - that's a bit of a way off yet). However, the picture these devices produce, the good ones anyway, is now a very, very good standard, and with the added fact that they are a lot more affordable than they were a few years ago makes them a very good TV purchase prospect. And, they are all better than whatever the 'best' was a few years ago, so what was (considered) 'accurate' then? I'm guessing nothing was. Whether people fall in love with one the second they see it in the showroom, or if they spend some time calibrating them (as much as you can in a showroom) and comparing like models, there is always the chance that the customers' own subjective judgement will have some baring on which TV they want to give over their hard-earned for. If a shop sells brand A and brand B and the customer loves brand A with a passion (and will in ALL likeliness continue to love it after they get it home), who are we to tell them they are flat out wrong? Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 16Jun 25, 2008 3:10 pm Another vote here for the Pioneer
I install quite a few media centre systems around the place, nothing like these AV dudes here Im sure and I get to see quite a few systems. But I still think the Pioneer cant be beat. For colour depth and for motion... But thats just my 2c PS: LCD Sux (IMHO Of Course) Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 17Jun 30, 2008 11:18 pm For anyone concerned about how much power some of these beasts pull, the following is quite interesting:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6475_7-6400401-2.html Especially check out the chart on page two giving model - power costs. Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 19Jul 02, 2008 10:07 pm People go about this the wrong way... You shouldn't be looking so much for Plasma Vs LCD... As you get some companies that make awesome plasmas ie Panasonic and Pioneer, then you get some awful ones like LG and Samsung.... The same goes for LCD; there are bad and there are good
Then some people make awesome LCDs like Sharp, and Sharp But really I ultimately I would go with Plasma again and again and again; but then again we also have a couple of LCDs around too Re: Doing my head in....LCD vs Plasma 20Jul 03, 2008 9:42 am Hey Drew, what makes you say that the Samsung plasmas are aweful (even the new LG Scarlets are supposed to be OK)? Have you had a look at one recently, like within the last year or so?
Their LCDs happen to look pretty good - IMHO - and are extremely popular (as are their plasmas). My memory of Sharp LCDs is that they didn't impress me much at all. The reality is, as I've stated before in this forum, that this really is subject to a large amount of personal taste. To counter your initial argument, I still think the original question/argument posed by this thread is more relavent than the 'one brand is better than another' one. I'll look into different shower heads and ask the plumber about some engineering and see what he says. Thanks 2 9551 If you can calculate the reasonable charged head from let's say 100mm below the gutter to the top of where the vertical riser's horizontal discharge pipe will be, that… 11 17525 The DIY project can be broken into two major steps. Planning and Design and Construction. Both of these steps are as important as one another to ensure you give… 0 5160 |