My gear is in the garage with a wireless router being installed into the pantry which is in the centre of the house so should give decent signal around the house
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Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 21Nov 01, 2012 7:22 pm My gear is in the garage with a wireless router being installed into the pantry which is in the centre of the house so should give decent signal around the house 2 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 22Nov 02, 2012 10:13 am JMAP Pepsi_Drinker - any reason why you cant run a couple of data cables to the rear of the house for an AP to service the back of the house...........This way you can centralise all your equipment ... There's actually a very good reason I haven't asked / mentioned running two cables to an AP at another location, ignorance !!! This definitely sounds like something I need to know more about !! As the house is at the planning stage, I can have as many wires run to as many locations as I want Why do you say TWO cables ?? JMAP ......You seem to be asking a lot about the WiFi distance - are you expecting .... or more so for streaming? If the later, DEFINITELY consider running 2 cables to the rear of the house. You wont regret it in the long run Streaming and just access in general from the rear of the house. As much as the glossy brochures say, it has been my experience that WiFi signals only reach the distances specified "on the box" across a wide open paddock, with both the receiver and AP on the top of hills, with no electricity cables within 100 Km, and a gentle breeze to help blow the signals in the right direction ! In any other environment, you're lucky to get 25% of the "advertised" performance ! Crow I have everything in a cupboard ......I have an outlet at the top of the cupboard ducted to a fan up in the roof with a thermostatically controlled switch in the cupboard. .... extracting air from the cupboard up into the roof. Vents in the kicker allow cool air to be drawn in from the bottom of the cupboard I like the concept, but if the "duct" goes from the cupboard to the roof space, aren't you worried about dust, flies, mozzies, possums or bogey-men coming back DOWN the dust when the fan isn't running ?? dvestate My gear is in the garage with a wireless router being installed into the pantry which is in the centre of the house so should give decent signal around the house..... This would work well (I think) with JAMP's comments, which in my configuration would put the AP in the middle of the house ........ Thanks guys, keep the suggestions coming P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 23Nov 02, 2012 12:41 pm Pepsi_Drinker Crow I have everything in a cupboard ......I have an outlet at the top of the cupboard ducted to a fan up in the roof with a thermostatically controlled switch in the cupboard. .... extracting air from the cupboard up into the roof. Vents in the kicker allow cool air to be drawn in from the bottom of the cupboard I like the concept, but if the "duct" goes from the cupboard to the roof space, aren't you worried about dust, flies, mozzies, possums or bogey-men coming back DOWN the dust when the fan isn't running ?? Not worried about it in the least as the duct has a 15m run between the ceiling and the second story floor and finishes with an upside down j before going into the fan up in the roof. The outlet in the cupboard has a cover. Slab Down: 2/6/11 Moved in 13/3/2012 Current Status : Waiting for the garden to grow. My build thread : viewtopic.php?f=31&t=47031 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 24Nov 02, 2012 1:58 pm Pepsi_Drinker JMAP Pepsi_Drinker - any reason why you cant run a couple of data cables to the rear of the house for an AP to service the back of the house...........This way you can centralise all your equipment ... There's actually a very good reason I haven't asked / mentioned running two cables to an AP at another location, ignorance !!! This definitely sounds like something I need to know more about !! As the house is at the planning stage, I can have as many wires run to as many locations as I want Why do you say TWO cables ?? 2 cables gives you redundancy should something happen to the primary one + if you want to use it for something else (streaming TV to a media player) this is always recommended to be done over a wired connection. If you are considering running wired connections, consider at least your media room (if applicable) and your study Pepsi_Drinker JMAP ......You seem to be asking a lot about the WiFi distance - are you expecting .... or more so for streaming? If the later, DEFINITELY consider running 2 cables to the rear of the house. You wont regret it in the long run Streaming and just access in general from the rear of the house. As much as the glossy brochures say, it has been my experience that WiFi signals only reach the distances specified "on the box" across a wide open paddock, with both the receiver and AP on the top of hills, with no electricity cables within 100 Km, and a gentle breeze to help blow the signals in the right direction ! In any other environment, you're lucky to get 25% of the "advertised" performance ! NEVER believe whats on the box - ive run it all over my place and will only be relying on WiFi for internet access. thats it Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 25Nov 02, 2012 4:29 pm What would we think of a wall mounted rack unit in the linen closet, with (two ) wires running to an AP in the (central) pantry ? Are AP's any "better" than my "standard" WiFi router as far as WiFI goes ? Do AP's come in a "commercial" model that puts out more Wi's and Fi's than a standard "consumer" model ? As far as the rack goes, as an example, something like this might do it for me........ http://www.4cabling.com.au/products/9RU ... binet.html Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ For "Tomorrows Connected House", how many RU's would you need ? Thanks, P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 26Nov 02, 2012 6:30 pm Hi Guys, For those of you interested, here's my DYI network setup, lives in top of BIW in office (bed 2). Couldn't find any small shelving that I liked so built my own (MDF, Conduit & treaded rod) - We are in T's Velocity estate. LHS is wallplate with Data/Tel sockets. Tel goes into Siemens PSTN/VOIP box with 3 cordless handsets. Data goes into 4 port WiFi Router on bottom shelf Above that is an 8 port switch. Then 2 bay Synology NAS. Powerboard on top. Hiding on wall in LH corner is a 12 port patch panel & as you can see, lot's of cat & cables for plug packs. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ PS: I did buy a 6RU Data Cabinet but it was too big for my needs & didn't fit in this spot. (It's 4 sale for $40 if interested BNIB! & can deliver Sydney within reason) Got a life, just can't find it! Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 27Nov 02, 2012 7:26 pm Pepsi_Drinker <cut> Are AP's any "better" than my "standard" WiFi router as far as WiFI goes ? Do AP's come in a "commercial" model that puts out more Wi's and Fi's than a standard "consumer" model ? <cut> I ended up using a hills system cabinet, its smaller than I would like, I'll struggle to fix the modem & router in their With the "N" wireless standard there are 2 frequency ranges, 2.6Ghz and 5Ghz or something similar, the more expensive routers do the 5ghz, not sure if that helps distance-wise. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 28Nov 02, 2012 7:47 pm theanonyuser .......With the "N" wireless standard there are 2 frequency ranges, 2.6Ghz and 5Ghz or something similar, the more expensive routers do the 5ghz, not sure if that helps distance-wise. Yeah, I've seen that on the boxes, not at all sure if that works or would be useful in the real world though ?? My concern is that, at the end of the day, WiFi is just a radio signal. So I figure that the radio "receiver" part of all my gear would be for the "standard" WiFi radio frequencies, so that you'd need to but special 5 GHz cards / adapters to take advantage of the additional benefits ? Any thoughts......anyone ?? P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 29Nov 02, 2012 7:54 pm Pugs as for the location of where the phone incoming line will end up on your house it will be next to the mains box.. by the regs it has to go there... interesting, my incoming line is on the northern end of my house and the mains box on the southern end. As for data hub and gear, I have it all in the utility room under the stair well - with ventilation. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 30Nov 02, 2012 9:24 pm Here is what my cupboard looks like. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ [imghttp://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa441/brad_thomas65/resized_DSCN0528construction.jpg][/img] Fan at the top. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Slab Down: 2/6/11 Moved in 13/3/2012 Current Status : Waiting for the garden to grow. My build thread : viewtopic.php?f=31&t=47031 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 31Nov 02, 2012 10:49 pm messy crow very messy.. some nice custom shelves/ rack units with the gear facing foward good points Ventilation.. PD you can get roof mountable WAP's that look like smoke alarms (has plenty of pics on his Companies face book Page) Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 32Nov 03, 2012 3:09 pm Pugs ......(has plenty of pics on his Companies face book Page) Thanks, Had a look and "Liked" the page...Took me a while to find it, Would Homeone let you put it in your sig ?? P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 33Nov 07, 2012 8:00 am I have two wireless access points in the ceiling. As they are POE if I want to reboot them I just unplug the POE injector in my data cabinet and re-plug. The WAPs are Cisco 1142's I got cheap on ebay (about $250 each). Being commercial products they don't tend to need reboots anyway. They do get hot but this is normal for these devices and they haven't seemed to suffer from the summer heat to date (they've been up there 4 years). I didn't need two to cover the house, but with everyone using tablets nowadays I wanted good coverage of 802.11N 5GHz so that they didn't suffer from the dreaded 'buffering' while streaming movies. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 34Nov 09, 2012 9:05 pm PD, Personally I'm using a data cabinet much like the one you have above for my ADSL/router, switch, patch panel and one NAS. My second NAS is external to the data cabinet due to heat concerns. Everything is protected by a SmartUPS 1500 in case of surges or power failure. I've run 4 Cat 6 to the other end of the house, as I have about 30m to contend with, and just run 2 dual band APs (actually routers), as much for signal as bandwidth as there are a lot of devices that want WiFi. I have also centralised data storage, hence the mirrored NAS with tape backups; that way all the notebooks and desktops just use SSDs. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 35Nov 11, 2012 6:22 pm Hey guys ....... Need to make the first "preliminary" decision tomorrow ........... How "big" is a 12RU cabinet ? http://www.4cabling.com.au/products/12RU-450mm-Deep-Wall-Cabinet.html Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Can Hold the Weight of 60KG. External Dimensions 600mm wide 450mm deep 635mm high Is 450mm deep enough ? What about 635mm (12RU) is that tall enough ?? Thanks, P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 36Nov 11, 2012 8:38 pm what are you going to put in it. I have a 6RU - big enough to house my gigabit switch, 2 patch panels and a video matrix - cant think of anything else to put in it as for depth - 450 is fine Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 37Nov 11, 2012 9:22 pm amgs155 how heavy is a 6ru? is yours made of steel or something else. I've been considering getting a data cabinet but realistically only need something the same size as yours but was going to place it on a desk rather than wall mount it. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 38Nov 11, 2012 9:30 pm Depends on what you want to put in it; 6RU is large enough for my use (patch panel 1RU, Switch 1RU, plus space of router and WD WorldBook). If I were to go 12RU, I'd go deeper, so you can fit a rack mount UPS and NAS or server in there; otherwise it's a waste of space. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 39Nov 11, 2012 9:42 pm PHL Depends on what you want to put in it; 6RU is large enough for my use (patch panel 1RU, Switch 1RU, plus space of router and WD WorldBook).... : amgsl55 ......I have a 6RU - big enough to house my gigabit switch, 2 patch panels and a video matrix - cant think of anything else to put in it....... Thanks Guys.... Sounds like 6RU isn't a "small" size ? How many data points do you guys have on your patch panels and routers ? amgsl55 ...... and a video matrix - cant think of anything else to put in it....... What's a video matrix ?? Is that what I need to have distributed video throughout the house ? If it is, how many video points do you have in your home feeding from this location ? Thanks, P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 40Nov 11, 2012 9:45 pm Video matrix will take a group of inputs and send to any output. If it's a 4x4 matrix it will have 4 inputs (e.g. fox, blueRay, DVD, PC) and send any of them to any of 4 screens throughout the house. We are going with 2 foxtels, 1 B'Ray & 1 PVR as inputs, output to 3 screens so a 4x4 suits us. You can get 8x8's 8x4's etc. ----------------------------------------------- http://pab34newdigs.blogspot.com.au/ ----------------------------------------------- Scientists have used random matrix theory to demonstrate theoretically that the neutrino mass hierarchy can be explained mathematically. When a substance is fragmented… 21 20668 If you're referring to Eufy homebase, then just put a switch between a datapoint and put the homebase elsewhere near another device in your home unless you want teh… 9 13862 |