6ru = Micro wave..
12ru = mini bar fridge
fyi I'll have some more photos up of a recent first fix for a client up soon just really tired after a full two days install
Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 41Nov 11, 2012 9:49 pm 6ru = Micro wave.. 12ru = mini bar fridge fyi I'll have some more photos up of a recent first fix for a client up soon just really tired after a full two days install Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 42Nov 11, 2012 9:52 pm I have 48 ( 2 rows of 24) on my patch panel. As for the weight of my rack - don't know. It was bought from 4cabling.com.au so best to go to their site to check the specifications. P_D - I have 7 TV points in the house but only expect to use 4. The matrix is a 4x4 - allows 4 inputs and 4 outputs. I hope to have all my data stuff tidied up by the end of the week ( just waiting on a few IR receivers). I'll take some pics to show the set up. I'll just be lacking the sonos gear as I've run out of money Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 43Nov 11, 2012 10:13 pm Thanks PAB_34 Thought it must of been something like that, didn't realise that that was how they were specified though, makes total sense when you say it like that though ! So how many RU's would a 4*4 be ? Are "bigger" ones much larger ? Thanks, P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 44Nov 11, 2012 10:17 pm PAB_34 Video matrix will take a group of inputs and send to any output. If it's a 4x4 matrix it will have 4 inputs (e.g. fox, blueRay, DVD, PC) and send any of them to any of 4 screens throughout the house. We are going with 2 foxtels, 1 B'Ray & 1 PVR as inputs, output to 3 screens so a 4x4 suits us. You can get 8x8's 8x4's etc. So is the matrix you are using something like this that runs HDMI? Cat 5/6 seems sensible to me. http://www.spacehifi.com.au/av-distribution/hdmi-matrix/hdmi-matrix-switch-4x4-4-in-4-out-cat5e-cat6 Build thread: here Land Nov 12, Contract 6/07/13, Consent 15/08/13, Start 20/09/13, Slab 25/09/13, Frame 4/10/13, Brick 21/10/13, Roof 2/11/13, Lock-up 17/12/13, Handover 3/3/14 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 45Nov 11, 2012 10:28 pm maximus PAB_34 Video matrix will take a group of inputs and send to any output. If it's a 4x4 matrix it will have 4 inputs (e.g. fox, blueRay, DVD, PC) and send any of them to any of 4 screens throughout the house. We are going with 2 foxtels, 1 B'Ray & 1 PVR as inputs, output to 3 screens so a 4x4 suits us. You can get 8x8's 8x4's etc. So is the matrix you are using something like this that runs HDMI? Cat 5/6 seems sensible to me. http://www.spacehifi.com.au/av-distribution/hdmi-matrix/hdmi-matrix-switch-4x4-4-in-4-out-cat5e-cat6 Yep, 1 output is over HDMI to a screen that's only a couple of meters from the cupboard with all the A/V gear, while the other two outputs are over Cat cable as the screens are a much greater distance from the matrix. ----------------------------------------------- http://pab34newdigs.blogspot.com.au/ ----------------------------------------------- Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 46Nov 11, 2012 11:09 pm We've got a 24patch panel because it was cheaper at the time than a smaller one but realistically we only use 10 of the points at the moment plus 2 directly from off our modem. ( all in the gear is in our office where atm we only have one computer plus a multitasking printer set up) additional phone point and wired cabling is scattered through the house. But if we'd wired the 3 minor bedrooms, added an additional point in the main bedroom near the tv allowing for doubles everywhere that would have been another 8 points. We already have 4 points in the games room, 2 in the lounge. the main bedroom and the kids activity room. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 47Nov 12, 2012 6:41 am Pepsi_Drinker Thanks PAB_34 Thought it must of been something like that, didn't realise that that was how they were specified though, makes total sense when you say it like that though ! So how many RU's would a 4*4 be ? Are "bigger" ones much larger ? Thanks, P_D I have a snapAV Binary 4x4 HDMI matrix and it's the same height as a patch panel, so I guess it's 1RU. All I know about bigger ones is that they get much more expensive in price. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 49Nov 14, 2012 5:47 pm Pepsi_Drinker PHL Depends on what you want to put in it; 6RU is large enough for my use (patch panel 1RU, Switch 1RU, plus space of router and WD WorldBook).... : Thanks Guys.... Sounds like 6RU isn't a "small" size ? How many data points do you guys have on your patch panels and routers ? It's a 24 point patch panel, of which I'm using 16 for data, and 8 for telephony (although wired up with Cat 6 anyway, except 2 filtered outlets and one unfiltered outlet from the phone line). Currently it's a 16 port managed switch, although am running out of room (due to port trunking on my NASs), so can't permanently wire up all ports. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 51Dec 26, 2012 2:57 pm Pepsi_Drinker Option 2 is to utilise the linen closet Be careful doing this - if you go down this route, you'll need to make sure it's well ventilated. As there are (semi) frequent requirements to re-boot various components, my preferred option would be to have everything in the study with just a wireless router in the linen closet. Would it be better (from a networking point) to have everything centralised in the linen closet, even if it is some distance from the study ? Pepsi_Drinker I doubt if WiFi signals would make it from the study to the alfresco / back yard from the study, as well as distance there are level changes with lots of concrete blocking line-of-site from front to back. Pepsi_Drinker Are there any other (heavy-duty) WiFi points that I could have in the linen closet and just run a network cable from the study to this component with all the other gear in the study ? Absolutely. The trap I suspect you're falling in to here is being used to domestic grade gear. For example, your typical D-Link AP you're going to pick up at an Officeworks/Harvey Norman type store is going to be a 20mW device... Their routers are pretty flakey, but D-Links reputation is poorly deserved for their APs as standalone devices, which are actually quite good. Their enterprise grade stuff is another level altogether, where people go "omg D-Link are crap" with really no idea where they fit in the enterprise market. I have 7 900APs and 4 3200APs on hand at all times. What you need to be looking for are 30, 50 or 100mW devices, with a suitable antennae. Here we have an ANT24-1500 mounted to the roof, but it's still only running at 30mW. If you can find a device you're happy with which outputs 100mW to 250mW, you'll have no dramas. The other biggest thing that causes problems is angles. Generally you actually will have very few problems if your equipment is perpendicular to the antennae. However as soon as you start trying to use it at an angle through walls, forget it. For example, the back room here is probably 20m away at a 90 degree angle, which has to go through about 4 walls. No problems with signal. My bedroom on the other hand - the walls are at almost exactly 45 degrees, and I count 4 walls between me and the antennae about 5m away. If you want specific numbers and math showing the dB loss involved, I'll be quite happy to bore you to death. But the gist is this: Keep stuff high-gain and perpendicular and you'll be fine. Pugs no idea why you have two NAS's.. one is enough... That's the way, judge before knowing a persons requirements or uses. We have three NASes here, two with an additional 5-bay enclosure each - a total of 25TB. Building a Delta 21 at Craigieburn - http://homeofzero.blogspot.com.au/ Deposit: 26/02. Contract: 22/05. Settlement: 29/05. Site start: 18/10. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 52Dec 26, 2012 7:55 pm PD, hi neighbour. I have a wall mount cabinet in linen closet (left in photo). It is 10in width (not 19in) and contains 3 x 12port cat6 panels. There is an 8port gigbit switch going into the bottom with external plug pack. note the use of finger duct right round, great for neatening up wiring. I have a billion wireless N router in study at front of house and it reaches the back easy, could be anywhere really. The cabinet on right is part of c-bus. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ image hosting rgds Warren Slab poured 21/04/2011 Frame finished 27/05/2011 Moved in 07/11/2011 Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 53Dec 28, 2012 3:06 pm Here's my network cabinet and RF/TV points cabinet: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ TV Points (RG6 quad core cable) – using powered splitters. One antenna in to 8 outputs x 2 (not all used) Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ CAT6 Terminations- 5 x 8 port patch panels – 40 (for every network point in the house) Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Builder: Dennis Family Homes House: Hartley Facade: Provincial Suburb: Lyndhurst Moved in! http://cynash.blogspot.com Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 54Dec 28, 2012 10:10 pm akashra The other biggest thing that causes problems is angles. Generally you actually will have very few problems if your equipment is perpendicular to the antennae. However as soon as you start trying to use it at an angle through walls, forget it. For example, the back room here is probably 20m away at a 90 degree angle, which has to go through about 4 walls. No problems with signal. My bedroom on the other hand - the walls are at almost exactly 45 degrees, and I count 4 walls between me and the antennae about 5m away. If you want specific numbers and math showing the dB loss involved, I'll be quite happy to bore you to death. But the gist is this: Keep stuff high-gain and perpendicular and you'll be fine. That why Ruckus has a market; I was seriously thinking of going with one of their APs, then decided due to ever changing standards, it was easier to get cheaper WiFi routers, and have 2 at each end of my house. That way when they die (everything electronic does), there will be a low cost replacement, and also I can split the load between two connections (both with 1Gb backhaul back to the switch). akashra Pugs no idea why you have two NAS's.. one is enough... That's the way, judge before knowing a persons requirements or uses. We have three NASes here, two with an additional 5-bay enclosure each - a total of 25TB. Sounds like Synology NAS units; I wonder how anyone can back up their NAS without a second NAS, or do people not bother with backups nowadays? Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 55Dec 29, 2012 8:17 pm PHL Sounds like Synology NAS units; I wonder how anyone can back up their NAS without a second NAS, or do people not bother with backups nowadays? Two HP Microservers, each connected to a Lian-Li EX-50, and a QNap TS-410. They run various bits and pieces - Subversion, JIRA, Hudson, MySQL/apache etc (ie, software development stuff) on one, Serviio (ie, media transcoding stuff) on another, Transmission/sabnzbd/SickBeard on another. Keeps load nice and low and evenly spread. Serviio chews a surprisingly small amount of CPU. Building a Delta 21 at Craigieburn - http://homeofzero.blogspot.com.au/ Deposit: 26/02. Contract: 22/05. Settlement: 29/05. Site start: 18/10. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 56Dec 30, 2012 9:25 am akashra Keeps load nice and low and evenly spread. Serviio chews a surprisingly small amount of CPU. Do you know how to load balance between two NASs? What I need is a load balancing server to distribute the load between my two. Heavy lifting video transcode (such as advert stripping) I still use my main PC, but for streaming, I just use my QNAP. But haven't found a way to spread demand between my 419 and 439, as both are equally fast file serving (and both have trunked Gb connections). Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 57Dec 30, 2012 1:04 pm a few little things to add... I generally avoid wifi where possible, if you have to have it (laptops/mobile devices) I generally suggest just throw access points where your likely to use them, so for example one in a cupboard in your kitchen and another in the roof above your bedrooms, shame wireless devices don't move to higher strength access points as fast as they should, something else is even though you get many channels to choose from, if you have multiple access points spread through the house we seemed to get best reception turning one access point to 5ghz and the other 2.4ghz so they are not fighting each other. I can't speak for people with full house theater systems where the Amps are located in the rack, but we have switch's that throw out over 100w of heat in sealed cabinets with no overheating issues at all, keep in mind that you'd want to keep an eye on boxes with CPU's and stacks of hard drives though... (you can always duct them outside though, just get a cheap 120 or 240mm computer fan and a bathroom duct, you can throw the air straight out of the house) it seems excessive but I've always been a fan of sealed cabinets Slooowwwwly getting a Manhatten 35 in Middleton Grange Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 58Jan 01, 2013 3:13 pm PHL akashra Keeps load nice and low and evenly spread. Serviio chews a surprisingly small amount of CPU. Do you know how to load balance between two NASs? What I need is a load balancing server to distribute the load between my two. Heavy lifting video transcode (such as advert stripping) I still use my main PC, but for streaming, I just use my QNAP. But haven't found a way to spread demand between my 419 and 439, as both are equally fast file serving (and both have trunked Gb connections). It's probably a discussion for another thread, but the amount of control you have over the linux kernel on QNap devices probably isn't sufficient to do everything you want using just the devices alone. As such you're probably going to need another box if you really want to go down that path - especially if you're putting so much load on them that the 419 or 439 are struggling. I must be honest, I've never really put much thought in to the architecture or hardware requirements of load-balancing on a home network. The stuff I deal with at work starts at about $40,000, so uhm... probably not very relevant to this discussion. Building a Delta 21 at Craigieburn - http://homeofzero.blogspot.com.au/ Deposit: 26/02. Contract: 22/05. Settlement: 29/05. Site start: 18/10. Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 59Jan 01, 2013 4:03 pm kinda the thing with this discussion is also that who runs 40k worth of computer equipment at home? and how can afford all the power/cooling to run said gear I'd suggest fancy switch's and all sorts of stuff for people, but when you look at even the idle power requirements of this gear I end up going back to run as little as possible! Slooowwwwly getting a Manhatten 35 in Middleton Grange Re: Data Hardware - Physical locations ? 60Jan 01, 2013 4:20 pm MR2 kinda the thing with this discussion is also that who runs 40k worth of computer equipment at home? and how can afford all the power/cooling to run said gear I'd suggest fancy switch's and all sorts of stuff for people, but when you look at even the idle power requirements of this gear I end up going back to run as little as possible! Oh no, that's a single 1RU unit 40k yes, is excessive, but there would be plenty of people running 3-5k routers in their home setups; and then a heap of other systems just to do day-to-day stuff. Building a Delta 21 at Craigieburn - http://homeofzero.blogspot.com.au/ Deposit: 26/02. Contract: 22/05. Settlement: 29/05. Site start: 18/10. Scientists have used random matrix theory to demonstrate theoretically that the neutrino mass hierarchy can be explained mathematically. When a substance is fragmented… 21 20624 If you're referring to Eufy homebase, then just put a switch between a datapoint and put the homebase elsewhere near another device in your home unless you want teh… 9 13825 |