Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation 1 Jan 07, 2012 11:16 am We are soon to start building in Mernda Villages where we will have access to NBN, we have recieved a letter from stockland stating it is best to ensure with our builder our home will be NBN compliant, we are not quiet sure what we really need to do. We have included in our tender a Cat 6 Computer Network/ Data point at the cost of $135, when I questioned the builder on being NBN compliant they changed it to a Basic Telstra High Speed Data Package which includes conduit & draw wire from ONT to PSU ( not sure what this means??? ) & 1 data point for $495, is the $135 data point all we need or do we need to upgrade to the $495 package? The NBN website is not much help... A bank is a place that will lend you money only if you can prove that you don't need it... Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 2Jan 07, 2012 12:35 pm Buttercup You can ask Stockland for this info. They have this info pack from NBN which they can give you to make sure your house is NBN compliant. If they dont have, pm me ur email add. I can fwd you the mail from Stockland with this info. Cheers Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 3Jan 07, 2012 1:48 pm Hi rajan our house WILL have the NBN available but my question is will the Cat 6 Computer Network/ Data point at the cost of $135 work with the new NBN or would we need to get the Basic Telstra High Speed Data Package which includes conduit & draw wire from ONT to PSU ( not sure what this means??? ) & 1 data point for $495. A bank is a place that will lend you money only if you can prove that you don't need it... Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 4Jan 07, 2012 4:17 pm Buttercup Hi rajan our house WILL have the NBN available but my question is will the Cat 6 Computer Network/ Data point at the cost of $135 work with the new NBN or would we need to get the Basic Telstra High Speed Data Package which includes conduit & draw wire from ONT to PSU ( not sure what this means??? ) & 1 data point for $495. A cat6 network will be prefect for the NBN. "the Basic Telstra High Speed Data Package which includes conduit & draw wire from ONT to PSU ( not sure what this means??? ) & 1 data point for $495" is all the lead in/ equipment needed for the NBN to get to your house form the outside pit and for it to work and one data point from the ONT (think nbn modem) to anywhere in the house... tho at $135/ data point after that to for each run to where back to onbe central spot.. seams a bit steap to me.. Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 5Jan 07, 2012 4:51 pm Thanks for the reply Pugs Our builder said they will credit the $135 for Cat 6 Computer Network/ Data point if we take the other option. So would we be able to run wifi from the one central point for the whole house? A bank is a place that will lend you money only if you can prove that you don't need it... Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 6Jan 08, 2012 7:49 am Buttercup Thanks for the reply Pugs Our builder said they will credit the $135 for Cat 6 Computer Network/ Data point if we take the other option. So would we be able to run wifi from the one central point for the whole house? sure I guess if you only need to surf the web.. but what about the future when you actually want to stream media around the house??? Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 7Jan 22, 2012 3:53 pm Hi guys, Here is information regarding wiring on the NBNCo website. http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/document ... d-mdus.pdf Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 9Feb 02, 2012 1:08 pm leezels we are being charged $2000 for a NBN Fibre connect pack. WTF! I need to look into this. sounds a bit outrageous to me. hi Leezels, we have been charged $1700 for our NBN pack. 1x cat6 data point 1x tv point 1x phone point. I dont think youve been ripped off. I know someone else was quoted $2400 for 4 of each points. Hope thats made you feel better. Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 10Feb 03, 2012 1:55 am makes me feel slightly better yes we get a phone point, 2 x Data points and 2 x TV points I was hoping we wouldnt need to get this but seems in might be a worthwhile investment for the future. Building with Dale Alcock in Piara Waters Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 11Feb 04, 2012 10:15 am tis funny as all the NBN require is that the Lead in conduit is done to their specs.... beyond that any structured cablign system can be done.. these so called "packages" are really expensive for what they are. btw if you arn't happy with these prices ring around and get quotes... or even just get them to install 32mm (will fit up to 4 x Cat6 and one by RG6.. or get dual 32mm's installed) In wall conduits and get a private cabler in after hand over. I've been pre wiring houses for the nbn/ FTTH for the last 2 years and I either need to raise my prices or these guys are ripping you off. and just before I get a flood of emails requesting quotes from Melbuorne my labour rates for both fixes start at $1500 I belive the actual nbn connection/ Equipment is free from NBN co... they shouldn't charge you anything from the builder or sparkies other then for the lead in conduit Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 12Feb 04, 2012 12:40 pm Pugs and just before I get a flood of emails requesting quotes from Melbuorne my labour rates for both fixes start at $1500 Is that 'cause you're in Adelaide and this would include airfares, accommodation, meal allowances plus your usual labour charges? Yeah, my builder has two "communications packages" to choose from and I don't even know what the difference between the two is!! The one I am getting is for "Copper & ADSL Zones". It includes: 1x phone point - Cat 5 cabling 1x TV point - RG6 Cabling 1x HD Digital antenna (not a roof antenna though ) 1x SGPO for future PSU unit 2x conduit to internal walls This looks like something others have been referring to. I had an extra TV point put in at pre-start, but the above package is costing me $700. Then there's the other package, which I thought looked better than the one I am getting, but only because it has a better name "Telstra Smart Community & Fuze Connect Zones". It includes: 1x phone point - Cat 5 cabling 1x TV point - RG6 Cabling 1x Data point - Cat 5 cabling 1x SGPO for PSU unit 2x conduit to internal walls This also costs $700. I'm thinking the 2nd one is for people who are building in an area that is already connected to this new fangled technology Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 13Feb 04, 2012 1:08 pm caz_770 Pugs and just before I get a flood of emails requesting quotes from Melbuorne my labour rates for both fixes start at $1500 Is that 'cause you're in Adelaide and this would include airfares, accommodation, meal allowances plus your usual labour charges? kinda hard to pack a ladder into my carry on.. just road travel charges and most up front... I have done a couple of interstate jobs mostly because they where scrambling to find anyone local who understood what they wanted/ they had faith in delivering the product standard they wanted. Melbounre I hazzard a guess has plenty of cablers maybe even some Sparkies who really know what they are doing with Networking/ HT/ MRA/ CCTV/ alarm/ intercom systems and related equipment that would offer full service installs. Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 14Feb 05, 2012 2:33 am Hi pugs We forgot to have nbn pre wiring built into our contract and the builder won't allow third party to come in and do any work on site until after handover. Now, my biggest concern is, is it going to be a big mess wiring nbn after handover? Are there going to be any visible cables? Do they have to take out bricks and drill over plaster wall? Are we going to end up having those patches of white or grey coloured cement or something on our walls? Thanks. Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 15Feb 05, 2012 9:26 am mr.21 Hi pugs We forgot to have nbn pre wiring built into our contract and the builder won't allow third party to come in and do any work on site until after handover. Now, my biggest concern is, is it going to be a big mess wiring nbn after handover? Are there going to be any visible cables? Do they have to take out bricks and drill over plaster wall? Are we going to end up having those patches of white or grey coloured cement or something on our walls? Thanks. in the past I have done a few installs with 4 x Cat6 and 2 x RG6 and a power feed to the NTD location, how ever since last year I have only run a single Cat6 for PSTN and a pull string in a full run of conduit from the ntd location to the rack to ensure that the NBN guys don't have to get up into any of clients roof spaces.. I have since found out (from NBN's head tech guy) that is is a really good thing.. if you arn't ina greenfeild estate at least make sure your cabler has NBN spec conduit run installed. http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/Specifing_a_New_Build_Or_Retro_Fit_Network_Install_(Domestic) have a read of that Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 16Feb 05, 2012 3:30 pm [quote="Pugs"]tis funny as all the NBN require is that the Lead in conduit is done to their specs.... beyond that any structured cablign system can be done.. these so called "packages" are really expensive for what they are[quote="Pugs"] Hi Pugs, thanks for all your great advice and info! Just to trouble you one more time, this is our quote- FIBRE OPTIC- NBN includes:- conduit for fibre optic connection, cat 2 distrubution box,1x cat 5e data point 1x cat5e phone point, 1 RG6TV point inlieu of strd tv and phone points.NB: Connection and installation of all required cabling from pit to dwelling to be completed by client after handover. Expansion options and point locations to be nominated at edgetec consultation. $1630. What , if anything else do I need to be asking for, for this price? I appreciate your time and help, you should charge$$ for your advice! Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 17Aug 29, 2012 7:35 am Hi, We had copper line installed after being advised we were being serviced by Telstra. However that has now changed and we are getting nbn end of the month. We had contractor come out and he was a pig. Did not look in house and just mumbled stuff about getting my own electrician first. Our copper line comes through brick wall in B1. This is a blue cable, it runs up wall frame into roof space, across house and then down other side of house on brick wall into our study. This blue cable is not in conduit. We now want to install the nbn equipment somewhere else out of the way as study wall where telephone point is located is not practical for the nbn equipment. We are looking at installing it up high in ou wip. Wall in wip is internal with no insulation to worry about. Need to know, what extra work do we need to get done? Power point is one thing. But what else needs to come in? We plan on using router which will be next to nbn equipment in wip. Is it just a simple thing of moving blue cable from study to wip? McKeachies Run, Aberglasslyn Deposit paid 11th April Land registered 6th June Land settled 20th June Colour selections and contract signed 5th August Commencement letter received 26th September Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 18Sep 01, 2012 11:14 am Reading the post I think I will go into the NBN wiring business. Been thinking about it for a while. I reckon halving some of the prices here I would still make a killing. Also gotta love some of the quoted items too. Like a HD digital TV antenna. I've always wondered what a digital TV antenna is, but being HD takes the cake. For those that don't know TV signals even ones that contain digitally encoded TV channels still travel through the air as an analogue signal. The only major difference between the old analogue encoded signals and digital is "digital" is a weaker signal, so in places an antenna with better gain is needed and connections need to be better quality, but certainly no such thing as a digital antenna and certainly no such thing as a HD digital antenna. Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 19Sep 01, 2012 5:17 pm Well, I agree that the "HD" bit is meaningless, but the digital bit can actually mean something - in most locations the digital broadcast is on UHF, so people with an older VHF only antenna may need a new antenna to receive the digital stations. Also, a combined UHF/VHF antenna can cause problems due to interference between the analog signals on VHF and the digital signals - I had this problem when I lived in Castle Hill in Sydney. Of course once the analog signals are switched off then this is no longer an issue. Paul Re: NBN- National Broadband Network Compliant Requirements 20Sep 01, 2012 9:55 pm paulw11 Well, I agree that the "HD" bit is meaningless, but the digital bit can actually mean something - in most locations the digital broadcast is on UHF, so people with an older VHF only antenna may need a new antenna to receive the digital stations. Also, a combined UHF/VHF antenna can cause problems due to interference between the analog signals on VHF and the digital signals - I had this problem when I lived in Castle Hill in Sydney. Of course once the analog signals are switched off then this is no longer an issue. Paul Not true. Only the lower half of the VHF spectrum (think channels under 5) is no longer used. The other VHF and UHF channels are still in use. If anything I would say that with the change to digital VHF has become marginally more prevalent than it was before. Have a look at this spreadsheet showing all the transmitters in the country. http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j ... _IAxmDETMQ As for the issue you have, as I mentioned above the digital carrier is weaker so in some cases people will need a new antenna. However the antenna you need is a better antenna not a "digital" antenna. Anyway my point was all this talk of digital etc is marketing hype designed to increase prices and get people to do things they don't need to do. For example how many people were conned into beleiveing they needed a new digital antenna when they didn't? Also just looking at some of these so called packages and the 'marketing' names they have, it is clearly a way of it making it sound like it is special and worth a premium price. Oh with NBN, all that is needed is a power point somewhere in the house, with a conduit to a termination box and a conduit from this box to the pit in the street. NBN will run the fibre and install the equipment. Internally it is really up to the home owner and what they want and need. I would install a small rack to house the equipment and then cable from there out to the house. Others may well be happy with a small wireless router attached to the NBN equipment, in this case I would run outlets to where the owners would want a phone as the NBN equipment provides the phone circuit. Network wise NBN recommend the use of CAT6, but to be honest that is probably a little bit of overkill and CAT5e with a good quality switch would do for many many years to come. Building Standards; Getting It Right! Hi, yes, we have the report. The builder has rectified the items on the report and we’re moving forward with the build. Thanks for reaching out 2 2086 This was on google. 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