Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation 1 Feb 14, 2011 3:46 pm Hi all, We are building a new two storey home in Warners Bay, NSW and i would like have CAT6 network ports throughout. I plan to have it all terminated back to patch panels in a 6 RU wall mounted hinged cabinet in the garage. The home will also have a home based business in the front and i would like to be able to use any of the network ports in the house as phone outlets by activating them in the patch panel. I plan to use a managed switch, but just a basic web based GUI version. I dont really need VLAN control etc. I have attached below some pictures of the proposed network port locations. I would love some feed back on the port locations and the number of ports. All ports would be CAT6 duals. Thanks Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Uploaded with ImageShack.us Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Uploaded with ImageShack.us Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 2Feb 14, 2011 9:02 pm Thanks fulltilt. Yes there will be wifi as well. I need that for the iphones, ipads and DSi's etc You just cant beat Ethernet though! Good call on the study and never thought about ip camera for the front door. The ones in the alfresco area are for some sort of home audio system i havent yet chosen. Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 3Feb 14, 2011 10:42 pm over kill inthe Bed 1 you won't need that many if at all any next to the beds... I've posted many times a general rule of thumb about how many you might like to have in each type of area... As I'm currently ona big install interstae and away form my main PC, when i get home I'll post up a more detailed reply Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 4Feb 15, 2011 7:03 am Thanks pugs. The ones next to the bed in Bed 1 were also for phone. So i would have one of the network ports phone and the other free if needed. What do you think? Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 5Feb 15, 2011 11:42 am Certainly put the data near each bed, if for no other reason, as you've said, for telephone. I like lots of data cable. Not just for data, but for any non-mains-voltage power. Ive got a dual data cable outlet alongside every GPO. I've also put dual lines up high near the ceiling in each room for potential future motion detectors and dual unterminated cables in each rooms roof space, in case I want to grab some wires later (I've also got mains power in each rooms roof space, whichwill comein very handy as I've changed my mind a nd want aceiling fan in the masterbedroom). I'm also using the data cable for reed switches, the front door latch opener and have run data cables in each roof space for potentual future eaves cameras. Can't have too many data cables. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 6Feb 15, 2011 2:55 pm Hi, You need to consider technology coming, e.g. E-Health and Smart grids. Both technologies require being part of a network or the network. Data points near beds and appliances that will be monitored by the grid are a good idea. Yes these technologies a bit down the track but we Smartwire our houses for things like this. You need to consider the connection of the NBN down the track; at this point the ONU’s could be internal or external so this needs to be considered as well. Make sure you get your TV data points Heighs right for IPTV I would suggest you have a look at the below web site as a start http://www.smartwiredhouse.com.au/ Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 7Feb 16, 2011 8:50 am So do people think i have too many ports / not enough ports / or just right like Goldilocks? Any suggestions on the port placements? Thanks Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 8Feb 16, 2011 11:52 am I would put more in the bedroom and study. For the bedroom, a double near the bedhead (telephone now, who knows what later). For the study, a double (or, as I did, a quad at the desk location) and then a double where you plan to put the printer. But don't use me as a reference, I have over 120 Cat 6 cables in my house! Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 9Feb 16, 2011 2:00 pm I would suggest more; personally I would speak to a cabler that has experience with the end result, someone like pugs, get them to do a plan for you. These people should be able to let you know what cable/configuration should be used to get a desired end result, e.g. protector rooms, NBN requirements, Multi Room Audio products, networks, e-health products, and so on. I would think most of these people would have a free design service, they did in my case. Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 10Feb 16, 2011 8:37 pm we have 2 in the main bedroom near the bed head and I wish we'd put one near the bedroom tv as well. One of the main bedroom bedhead points is a data point and one is for the mains phone line. We also use a hands free in the bedroom as I haven't gotten around to setting up the hands free( voip) to fall back to the mains service. Once this happens we'd really only use one data point near the bed as I tend to be the one who sits and uses the network in there not my other half. Having a point near any tv is handy for media streaming. We have 2 points in our lounge room (media streamer and currently a spare) 2 in our kids playroom which is where the games consoles live. 4 in our games room with a spare conduit for further additions or a tv antenna etc later. We also have wireless. We opted not to put any points in our kids bedrooms. But if you are planning to do so put in 2+ not one. Our system comes back to the office. where the are lots of spare points on the switch. Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 11Feb 17, 2011 10:11 am OK so I'm in fornt of my Main PC.. IMEO (In My Expert Opinion) Upstairs. Bed 1 Over kill side the beds.. you won't need 4 network ports 2 ether side of a bed... this is where having Wi-fi is really good for being able to sit in bed and not be cluttered up with cables. Techincally you are limited to 3 active telephonic devices on the line this includes alarms, medic alert devices, and any devices that uses the PSTN. Cordless phones replace the need to have extra Physical Handsets and some packs you can have up to 6 handsets on the one base station... also IP phones via VoIP could fill this over use of PSTN. if you need to run a business then you activate the second line and use that soley for that (including ISP/ fax duet) I peronally have a cordless system that has 3 handsets and I can use the base station to make calls/ page the other phones.. Next room Lesuire Room unless you are plan to hold LAN parties up there .. once again over kill more so by one of the double outlets.. if anything having only 3 lets you move furniture around. Next rooms Bed 2,3 and 4 These are all fine Down Stairs. Study I'd put more then 4 in there... bare minimum of 6. or and another two on another wall. Are the two front rooms part of a HT?? it isn't clearly marked at all Pantry I'd put only 1 in the pantry Kitchen. 1 point and use Wi-fi Family room. Unless you are planning to move the furniture around in there I'd only go the 4 on one wall. and use Wi-fi for any "mobile" Devices. Dinning That is fine. Alfresco Unless you plan to have LAN parties out there or if you have a TV point out there 2 would be a good quantity but 4 is over kill... I'd just use Wi-fi once again for mobile devices A centrally located WAP (Wireless Access Point) Up stairs and another downstairs would be more then enough for good coverage.. maybe even one decent unit should be fine as for a 6RU it won't fit.... you would need to get a 9RU in your current format it is 44 points so that is 2 x 24 port patch panels + either one 48 port or 2 x 24port switches you would need to factor in 2 x 1RU or 1 x 2RU cable management units. plus atleast 1 shelf for modems/rotuers/ anyting else you may want fit in there... rough gestermation at costs to have this installed is $4500 - $5500 maybe even more The way a structured Cabling systerm works is being able to Patch any IP or POTS "signal" to any point in the House so any one point becomes multi functional. but hey that is Only MEO, your house / money even in my house I'm struggling to picture more then 50 points including points for control 4 equipment.. and I get everything at cost/ free labour.. Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 12Feb 17, 2011 11:53 am For the bedrooms I would definelty go for two double outlets. One at the bedhead for phone/data and another for where the desk would go. If you can afford more data points, go for it. The Cat 6 cabling can be used for much more than data. It can be used for security (motion sensors, reed relays, etc), operating blinds, speakers, TV, phone, temperature sensors, home automation touch screens, supply power, and much more. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Number of network ports and locations in new build 13Feb 17, 2011 6:25 pm Pugs OK so I'm in fornt of my Main PC.. as for a 6RU it won't fit.... you would need to get a 9RU in your current format it is 44 points so that is 2 x 24 port patch panels + either one 48 port or 2 x 24port switches you would need to factor in 2 x 1RU or 1 x 2RU cable management units. plus atleast 1 shelf for modems/rotuers/ anyting else you may want fit in there... I agree with most of what Pugs said, except you only need a 48 port switch if you want to saturation cable your Ethernet ports. Normally a 24 port would be fine and you just patch Ethernet where you need it. In my last house I had 36 ports, but only a 24 port switch - and it still had some spare capacity because I didn't have that many wired devices (although I did have a lot). The other thing that I do with my structured cabling is run a Panasonic key phone system - It isn't as sexy as a VOIP system, but you can get them cheap on eBay, my wife can operate it and the paging capability beats shouting from one end of the house to the other. Of course price is an issue, but depending on your construction method it is much cheaper at construction than after - particularly if you have a steel frame, double brick or, as in your case, two stories. Current plans for my new house are around 60 ports, although it is a 5 bedroom plus a 3 bedroom in-law house. Paul Okay sorry silly me, my wife has solves the mystery for me. It’s because the labels on the ports are all wrongly positioned by the builder hence it confuses me. 2 1386 Thank you so much everyone. This all makes a lot of sense. I guess when you talk to a builder who butters up everything to look very polished, you get to start believing… 7 17629 |