Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation 1 May 30, 2010 7:15 pm After spending all day on avsforums im considering going all out on the cinema , our room unfortunately is small (4.4x3.5x2.7m) plenty of american setups have used fabric on the walls, and i was thinking what about carpet? im not really a fan of curtains so i was thinking frame/gyprock/underlay/carpet nothing too chunky just low low pile would it be feasible for a room? good for sound? good for reflections from the projector? am i crazy? -FF 2nd-Fix | Blog Building with Desyn Homes previously with the insolvent [url=https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/1162546323776021/]Endeavour Homes[/url] Re: Carpet on the walls? 2May 31, 2010 3:19 am im curious to see what the experts have to say about this one ... im not sure myself We're building The Albany 330E with Casa Design & Construction via National Builders Group See how we are going here: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=32694 Re: Carpet on the walls? 3May 31, 2010 8:35 am Sonically, something like carpet for the walls is an excellent choice for a Home Cinema, especially with underlay. It will cut down heaps of the high frequency reflections and quite a bit of the low frequency ones as well (a little bass normally passes through the plaster and bounces off the bricks on the outside (coming back into the room), but here the carpet-underlay layer will absorb some of that energy too). As far as reflecting light, that's really more about the colour than anything else. The darker the colour the less ambient light will be reflected and influence the screen. This type of solution for a domestic Home Cinema is not usually discussed purely because it has such a low WAF!, but for a dedicated room used by a real enthusiast it's a great choice... Re: Carpet on the walls? 4May 31, 2010 9:25 am +1 to Rodda’s comments. I did a music course a number of years ago and one of the topics we studied was about acoustics, although there are a number of ‘optimal’ ways of tuning (I think that’s a correct term) a room, a simple way of improving the sound in a room that you can’t alter the wall in is to put some kind of material and rubber on the walls, so carpet with underlay would probably work really well. Current status: Busy making the house our home Built PD Francis 29 on our 576m2 block at Reflections in Tarneit Reflections Estate Thread Our Build Thread Re: Carpet on the walls? 5May 31, 2010 10:36 am A few thoughts about fitting carpet to walls... The underlay (if you use an underlay) will need to be glued to the wall. I'd suggest a light weight underlay such as a light foam. Its important that you use a suitable glue, that is has low voc levels (check MSDS). I would think a water based product. The temperature is important when glueing. Don't have it done when cool. Check with instructions on adhesive, but I think minimum of about 15 degrees C. Wool carpets would be more suitable, as the fibres are less reflective and have better insulation values. Smoothedge should be used to at least the top edge to support the weight. Ideally have an experienced carpet layer do it. Ash. Re: Carpet on the walls? 6May 31, 2010 2:10 pm thanks for the replies, i am going ahead with carpet on the walls. it will most likly be a professional install i just dont know how they would do it, perhaps staple it to the wall? would it be better to use MDF instead of gyprock? the end result of this is to keep noise from room to room and would make a pretty cool recording studio in future. also going to put a bulkhead in with pockets for the ceiling, and a simple 3x high AV rack (HTPC/amp/PS3) is the room too small? currently we have a 3x3.5m room for our home lounge/cinema and a 2.4m screen its certainly good for screen realestate as we use it for HTPC/server/chatting/browsing even would be nice to go 5x4m but our block wont be wide enough. -FF 2nd-Fix | Blog Building with Desyn Homes previously with the insolvent [url=https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/1162546323776021/]Endeavour Homes[/url] Re: Carpet on the walls? 7Jun 02, 2010 11:08 am I think that room is definitely too small for a projector, but that is just my view (personally I think a room needs to be over 4m deep before you should consider a projector for it). I'd say for a room that small, especially for one that is going to be used as a regular louge room as well, you might as well just get a big flat screen TV - over 50" and be done with it. There will be less considerations this way anyway... (controlling the light, placement of projector, etc.) Re: Carpet on the walls? 8Jun 02, 2010 2:51 pm Rodda I think that room is definitely too small for a projector for our new house: (4.4Lx3.5Wx2.7H.m) or what we have currently? 3x3.5m? 2nd-Fix | Blog Building with Desyn Homes previously with the insolvent [url=https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/1162546323776021/]Endeavour Homes[/url] Re: Carpet on the walls? 9Jun 02, 2010 5:55 pm The current one (sorry, got a little mixed up with the figures). The new one is going to be over 4m so that's OK (it's still a little squeezy, but 4.4m is OK as you should still be pretty comfortable with a 95"-100" screen). You will still need to do your research regarding the projector you want and the screen size it can support in your room... Re: Carpet on the walls? 10Jun 02, 2010 7:11 pm yeah ive got a Epson TW-3500 lined up for it, i think the throw is fine i might be able to take a bit of space out of the main bedroom to suit the cinema more need to go over the plans again 2nd-Fix | Blog Building with Desyn Homes previously with the insolvent [url=https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/1162546323776021/]Endeavour Homes[/url] Re: Carpet on the walls? 11Jun 05, 2010 12:23 pm good news we just picked up a huge block so i can go wider on the cinema! would 5x4m be a good size? looking to get 4x people seated comfortably with 2x beanbags or so on the floor 2nd-Fix | Blog Building with Desyn Homes previously with the insolvent [url=https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/1162546323776021/]Endeavour Homes[/url] Re: Carpet on the walls? 12Jun 06, 2010 7:31 am That's definitely much better. I myself will be (hopefully) building my new room soon and I am trying to get mine about 6.0L x 4.8W. But then I am actually hoping to have a little bit of room behind my seats (for access to the room from behind them, and to enable me to actually have my surround speakers set back behind me a little), and I really like a bit of width in the room too to allow the front left and right speakers plenty of distance between them and distance from the screen to them... Re: Carpet on the walls? 13Jun 06, 2010 1:48 pm The new room size sounds great. Not sure if I would be too keen on carpet on the walls, but that would be mainly on aesthetic grounds. Might be a bit much. We are just about to start building and will have a dedicated HT room. I will be using acoustically transparent material from a company in Melbourne (rimfabrics.com.au). Check out the Trilogy materials, which are about $15-$20 per 1 m length (1.88m x 1 metre). I am doing a complete room including ceiling for just over a thousand dollars. To attach the material, you could try a US company called fabricmate (www.fabricmate.com). Not a cheap fix but it has the benefit of being able to use acoustic products under the material. I think that if you carpet the whole walls you will find that the room becomes a bit 'dead' acoustically. Sound is a reflective medium. If you lose your off axis sound it will be a pretty dead room and would not be to my liking. It will certainly keep a lot of the sound in the room though. You can spend thousands just isolating and acoustically treating your room. In terms of acoustics, and also depending on your equipment, I would think that a couple of thousand is not too bad to get you going. Happy to chat if you want to PM me. I agree with what the other have said, but for me, I think carpet may deaden the room too much. Would be better to find a midpoint. Just my two cents. Cheers Greg. Re: Carpet on the walls? 14Jun 06, 2010 2:52 pm well im always up for a cheaper alternative, how thick is this material? are you just going to attach it onto the gyprock? 2nd-Fix | Blog Building with Desyn Homes previously with the insolvent [url=https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/1162546323776021/]Endeavour Homes[/url] Re: Carpet on the walls? 15Jun 06, 2010 8:38 pm this is sort of what im after: http://ocau.com/pix/ixted http://ocau.com/pix/d74ao nothing too crazy, cept for the carpet or fabric on the walls.. 2nd-Fix | Blog Building with Desyn Homes previously with the insolvent [url=https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/1162546323776021/]Endeavour Homes[/url] Re: Carpet on the walls? 16Jun 06, 2010 9:56 pm Hi there Firefox, The track runs at $1.95 per foot,so you would need to go around the ceiling perimetre top and bottom and then need 1-2 tracks running around the room to allow for the joining of the material. It quickly adds up but if you order complete boxes, you should get out for about $1000 in materials for the track plus about the same for the material. I am using the FS100 track, which is 1/2 inch which will allow a thin substrate material for acoustic treatments. Added to that, my room will be isolated with Green Glue whisper clips, which detatches the gyprock walls from the studs. This makes a massive difference in sound transmission out of the room. In terms of material thickness, I would check with the supplier as the materials are all different. The trilogy one is very similar to GOM material 701, which is what most of the guys on AVSForum generally use. Feel free to PM me and I can call you if you like. I don't like pushing products too much here..neither do the moderators! Best of luck Greg Re: Carpet on the walls? 17Jun 08, 2010 6:18 pm just heard back from the owner of that HT picture. for those interested the room is: 5.5m x 5m thanks greg, i have heard about excellent results from green glue, its certainly isnt cheap! lots of people on the avsforums wouldnt build a room without it! im keen to see how your setup goes, is it like a foam consistency? 2nd-Fix | Blog Building with Desyn Homes previously with the insolvent [url=https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/1162546323776021/]Endeavour Homes[/url] Re: Carpet on the walls? 18Jun 08, 2010 8:04 pm FireFox just heard back from the owner of that HT picture. for those interested the room is: 5.5m x 5m thanks greg, i have heard about excellent results from green glue, its certainly isnt cheap! lots of people on the avsforums wouldnt build a room without it! im keen to see how your setup goes, is it like a foam consistency? Hi mate, My room is going to be 5.6 x 4.55 x 2.7m high. I will not be using Green Glue. I am using the whisper clips from the Green Glue company. They work a little differently and basically separate the gyprock from the studs to stop sound transmision. Green Glue is the actual adhesive that is a thick, viscous product that has some adhesive qualities (still needs to have drywall screws) but basically converts the energy created through sound vibration into low heat and then dissipates this heat. This conversion of energy stops the transmission of sound through to other parts of the home. That's about as simple as I can explain it. If you do a search on youtube you will find a stack of info on Green Glue. I think you may be ahead of us on the build. We are still waiting on Council permission. Almost there. Hope to start building within a month or so. I think that you will find so many hidden costs if you want to really go to town on your room. A home theatre is very different than a media room / TV room / Rumpus room. Everything is expensive, from lights, to sound proofing, through to cabling etc etc. The list goes on! Feel free to PM if you need any other info. Cheers Greg 1 11004 1 15753 they can, it's a fairly standard solution when the slab isn't recessed. the falls need to be in the main floor, if it hasn't been done then you need to ask them to redo… 4 6584 |