Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation 1 Sep 28, 2007 10:05 am [img]Hi all,
After some advice regarding theatre layouts. I have have been reading previous threads can't decide 100% on which way to go, although have seen many good ideas! Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ dim 5.25mx4.48, door width approx 1.3m (620mm double doors) celing height 31c, with 0.24m bulkhead around the room Ideally want projector system with about a 2.5m wide screen. When using some calculators a screen closer to 2m probably would be more appropriate for the room dimensions. I used the calculator at http://www.carltonbale.com/home-theater ... calculator Current Thinking - Run projector along longest dimension - Extend room 0.5m on the garage side, I have the space to do this but need to watch setbacks from front. This should allow a 2-2.5m screen and be suitable for HD 1080p? Here's where I start to stumble... (due mainly to speaker & equipment placement) - Mount the projector on the side of the room where the door is. Not sure whether project could sit in bulkhead, or to cutout a section of the bulkhead - Have raised floor of approx 2m, giving the room two rows of seating assuming 7.1 type of setup - Ideally I would like to conceal the speakers as seen in some examples here but not sure on how best to achieve this. - Mount rear speakers mounted in bulk heads or on walls? Would prefer to try hide in bulkheads but would this affect sound quality? Which way would you orientate them, ie speakers facing straight down or towards the front or side of the room. ideally they should point at the veiwer? (can't think of a way to put them in the bulkhead to achieve this) Another option could be to have the entry doorway in the the middle of rear wall, this would allow for easier speaker placement, but would make the raised floor awkward, making an isle down the middle of your theatre room? - Sit equipment in cabinet at front of room to one side. - Front speakers setup along wall, could look at putting all speakers but sub woofer in to the ceiling bulkhead, but again have concerns at whether this is practical or affects quality. I suppose an option could be to build a parition/wall structure at the front to house equipment and speakers. This would make a neater solution but not sure exactly how to do this or if this would be costly. -Windows. Will probably have the windows tinted as they are at the front of the property, Also will have suitable window dressings. Should we be concerned at the overall window size of the room. Any advice on the proposed layout or general suggestions welcomed, in particular anything that may require a structural change given we are close to finalising plans with our preferred builders.[/img] Re: Theatre Size and Layout Advice Needed 2Sep 28, 2007 10:27 am Firstly and foremost I would look at getting the smallest (narrow but tall) windows for the front, replacing the large windows at the front. Try and keep all the front windows of the house the same.
Secondly, if you mount the projector at the end of the room that has the doors in it, how will you be able to have a raised floor as when you ope the doors they will hit the raised floor. Gav & Vanessa Building In Melbourne (Sth East Suburbs) http://www.arkraider.blogspot.com/ Rawdon Hill Construction - Canterbury Heritage Re: Theatre Size and Layout Advice Needed 3Sep 28, 2007 6:03 pm Arkraider - just changed the picture to reflect the change we have made for the doorway so it is now not at the centre of the room, hopefully this allows us then to do a raised step. Re: Theatre Size and Layout Advice Needed 4Sep 28, 2007 8:17 pm Hiya Firstbuild.
OK, here we go. The screen size you're thinking of is either a 110" or 115" (16:9) - a 115" has an image width of 2545mm. There are people in the industry who believe this is too big in some cases in some rooms, but it really does depend on a couple of things. 1. How far away the front row of seats are and how far away the back ones are, and how much consideration you want to give to the people in each. If, like me, 90-95% of your movies are viewed by only one or two of you, then you can take a slightly selfish view of it (if you want) and focus on the row of seats that you'll be sitting in (and when you have friends over they're experience may not be quite as perfect as yours - ie. the screen seems a little too big or too small to them, accordingly). Or, you can go with the average of what's best for both rows. I have a 115" screen and my face is 4.8m back from it (when watching it ), and it is by no means too big. If I had an extra 40mm of width in the alcove it's installed in I would have gone for the 120", which also would not have been too big at my viewing distance (in fact, it would have been even more awesome than my 115"!). If you're concerned about the front row of seats being a little close for a 115", or even a 110" screen then go with the 100", just don't go any smaller or it will look pretty dinky from the back row. 2. If you want to go substantially over 100" then the projector you get needs to have at least a decent level of brightness. 1080P or 720P has no bearing on this. Mounting the projector in the bulkhead at the back of the room is a good idea. Your main concerns are access for mounting/maintenance and ventilation. Remember, when mounted at ceiling height the projector needs to be upside-down, as even with lens shift it's designed to project it's image above it's own top. As far as ventilation goes, a lot of projectors these days are vented at the front (so they can be mounted hard up against the back wall). For your surround speakers (all 4) you sound like a prime candidate for in-ceiling speakers. Surround effects and therefore surround speakers are actually supposed to be a little more ambient, less direct than their front siblings, and in-ceilings achieve this perfectly. They are also extremely descrete. Mount the side ones a little forward of the 2 rear centre ones to create an (even if only slight) arc of sorts. The front speakers, on the other hand, need to be a little more direct, and in my opinion less compromise should be made on these (quite a few people in the industry will say that the centre speaker is the most important in a home theatre - and I agree this may be so for movies, but I'm a music lover of a pretty high order, and most music is still available only in stereo, so for me the front left and right speakers are always going to be the most important... ). Therefore, unless you have to (or you want to get some really good (ahem, expensive) ones) try to avoid in-ceiling speaker for fronts. In-walls on the other hand are very effective here, if you don't want traditional free-standing cabinet speakers, and there are heaps of options (level of quality, price...). As far as a subwoofer goes, it can be placed anywhere (preferably near a power point). Just make sure you consider running a cable for it too. Your room is not too big so the sub doesn't need to be either (driver (the actual speaker) or it's amp). A good 10" with a decent 200 WRMS amp would be more than sufficient, as long as it was made by a company known for making decent subs. The A/V gear can be completely hidden, in this room or even in another - it just comes down to what cabling you want to run (including IR cables) and how much of it. Don't forget that ventilation needs to be considered for them too. Windows - not of a major concern to me. Just try to be sure you can do a pretty good job of blocking out the light from them if you want to watch movies during the day time. Good luck digesting this mate... Re: Theatre Size and Layout Advice Needed 5Sep 28, 2007 9:10 pm firstbuild,
With a room size of 5.25 x 4.48 m, I would go for a raised floor section of 1.5 m, rather than 2.0 m. Having the back of the first row seats at 3.25 m puts the the person less than 3 m from the screen, which to me (and I'm no expert) is too close. Also, I still don't see how the two double doors don't get in the way of your seating. Would be nice if you could increase the resolution/size on the picture. Cheers, Casa Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Theatre Size and Layout Advice Needed 6Sep 28, 2007 10:03 pm Firstbuild another idea may be to have the rear doors as sliding to allow for maximum entrance with no encroaching on either the hallway or the theatre room.
The raised floor section could still be at the back of the room and with a sunken alcove to create the step you could fill it with some nice LED lights and make a feature out of it. Matt Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ I have reverted to username - mattwalker Carlisle Homes - Grande 43 My building experience is here: http://www.ourgrandeplan.blogspot.com Re: Theatre Size and Layout Advice Needed 7Sep 29, 2007 7:25 pm Rodda - thank you for the information and yes it may take some time to digest
Casa - will look at the 1.5m for the raised section. Matt - we had discounted sliding doors from previous posts but will think about again. Also if you know of aany good theatre people in Perth you can recommend we would be very grateful. Regards David and Suzanne Re: Theatre Size and Layout Advice Needed 8Sep 30, 2007 10:01 pm firstbuild Matt - we had discounted sliding doors from previous posts but will think about again. Also if you know of aany good theatre people in Perth you can recommend we would be very grateful. Regards David and Suzanne Sliding door definatley have a place. The other option would be to have the doors opening into the hallway too.... Can't help with anyone in Perth but happy to give you lots of free info to help make you better informed when making decisions over there Matt I have reverted to username - mattwalker Carlisle Homes - Grande 43 My building experience is here: http://www.ourgrandeplan.blogspot.com Building Standards; Getting It Right! Long story short, a toilet room is going to back onto our main bedroom and I want to make it close to soundproof. Im going to build two frames (pretty much a room within a… 0 10204 Hi, We're building a double-storey in Perth and I'm undecided with the kitchen sink situation. I'm set on having the main sink with dishwasher in the scullery - and… 0 20893 |