Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation 1 Apr 23, 2010 12:07 pm Currently buiding our home (slab is poured). I have been researching/reading about AV systems for a while now and cant really get my head around the specifics. Was hoping people could help me out. I would like to store all music/videos etc in one central location with a NAS Drive. Then I would like to be able to use this to control my Digital media. I would also like to be able to buy an amp which can control a few different speaker Zones (eg have a movie playing in home theatre and music in outdoor area and maybe different music in Kitchen) Is this possible? I would also like this to be able ot be controlled in one location. The Theatre room (listed as lounge on plan) will have a TV, PS3, BLU_RAY Player and surround sound. Living area will also have a TV (will use tv speakers no theater system). I would also like speakers in the main bedroom, Theatre room and the kitchen/livign area. All being able to be controlled seperately. Down the track I will also be getting fox. Will this affect what I do now? Now I presume this is possible but I am not sure what cabling requirments etc would be required. Do I need some sort of home automation system to control the speaker zones? The Plan http://picasaweb.google.com/James.Wither/Home#5463150794982198162 Re: New home AV System 2Apr 23, 2010 7:25 pm Without getting into the whole automated systems to do zones, what you're wanting is pretty standard. You'll need: 1. An amplifier capable of handling different zones. The denon range is good and they increase in price for the number of zones you want. 2. Work out your networking. 2 points for every point you want a tv / HTPC to connect to your NAS is pretty standard. 3. Work out your central point to bring everything back to. 4. Your home theater room you'll want about 4 points. 5. Independent HTPC's for each of the points you added in #2. 6. You'll need cat6 / speaker cables to run all your cable during frame stage. 7. Getting fox won't affect this unless you plan on having fox in multiple rooms. 8. You'll need a licensed data cabler to run all your wires. 9. You might want to look at getting extra TV points while you're at it. ---------------------------------------- Building the PD Lisbon 24 http://www.porterdavis.com.au/#homeviewer/lisbon/24 Blog of our progress. http://lisbon24.blogspot.com/ Homeone build thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28665 Re: New home AV System 4Apr 25, 2010 9:20 am Sorry guys, but all is not as some (retail people, brands' marketing) would have you believe: TimmyDunlop 1. An amplifier capable of handling different zones. The denon range is good and they increase in price for the number of zones you want. Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Onkyo, Pioneer, Sony. Take your pick and you will still face the same limitation: Even their top-of-the-line models, while servicing a HT room brilliantly, do other additional rooms (if any more than one additional room) in very basic and not so user friendly ways. There are almost always other pieces of equipment required (speaker switches, volume controls) to get to what you want and usually still more than a couple of button presses to get the 'multi-room' activated. You also ususally need to sacrifice your '6' and '7' speakers (the surround back speakers) in your HT when using the 'multi-room' on your AV Receiver. IMHO, if you want to have a cracking HT and also have a couple of extra rooms of independent audio then you really should look at a separate system for that, unless you don't mind a cobbled together approach with a level of clunkyness to using it... TimmyDunlop 2. Work out your networking. 2 points for every point you want a tv / HTPC to connect to your NAS is pretty standard. 5. Independent HTPC's for each of the points you added in #2. Being a HTPC enthusiast myself, I still have to say there are lower cost/less complicated ways to get access to network audio and video files from your rooms than running multiple full-blown HTPCs. There are many network media players out there that will do this - dVico TiVX boxes, Popcorn Hour, and many lesser brand cheapies too. Re: New home AV System 5Apr 27, 2010 11:47 am I thought I might need some kind of switch to get zone action for my speakers. So I might need 2 amps? One for the HT room and one for the rest of the house? If I do this can I still have one NAS drive? Are there people out there who can design systems for you? This is all giving me a headache. Would be happy to pay for someone to design what we want, give us a Bill of Materials etc. A mate of mine can do the cabling (Works for Telstra so is qualified) and another mate who is a Lecco so between them have the Labour but the design is the thing I would like to get right. Do it right do it once I say, Re: New home AV System 6Apr 27, 2010 11:50 am most NAS's won't have the brains to help share all of your media to that many devices ..a HFS (Home File Server) will. don't get me wrong NAS's have their place ie simple sharing of drives ina a house but they start to fail when you need to do more things then just share files Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: New home AV System 7May 21, 2010 4:18 pm Quote: Are there people out there who can design systems for you? This is all giving me a headache. Yeah, been looking at this myself - the reliable Audio stores can guide you through. Been doing a bit of homework on this, and had a good chat with one of the audio team today instore. Even in the case (if it comes to it) that the builder won't let the audio team do the wiring, the audio store is prepared to write up a proposal (including all the detail)for the builder to follow - for a reasonable fee. If it comes to doing it after handover - messy, but so be it - especially if it is more cost effective. The guy today was saying that for a current job they are doing, it was actually cheaper to do the project after handover (despite the radical work) than for the builder to do it.. so... short version is take your house plans in to the audio guys and start the discussion. Building with the Big M, Sandarra Settlement July 16 Site Scrape Sep 22 Slab Oct 12 Framing commenced Oct 13 Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=39517 Re: New home AV System 9May 24, 2010 10:15 pm either modem router with VoIp or an external ATA linksys offer the best models out there... Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: New home AV System 11Jun 03, 2010 11:30 pm shavey And would it be suitable to run the phone line and power into a cupboard for a file server setup like this? Or, would this be too troublesome if changes were required? pendiong the rest fo your lay out.. just keep the fs in the office and then just network it... Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: New home AV System 12Jun 17, 2010 9:39 am Righto. The house is coming along very well. Nearlly finished bricks so Its over to us to do our bit (I have a licenced mate doing the electrical, and am sorting out the cabling etc for audio, network etc). I will be running RG6, and Cat 6 to most rooms. Does anyone know the best place to get these cables? And how many should I run to each room? We are currently putting in the wall plates at the moment. I have Hijacked My wifes linen cupboard and will cable back to there. Was thinking to each point 2 Cat6 cables and 2Rg6? Is this enough/too much? Also Are there similar wall plates for speakers? whats the best speaker cabling to run? Cheers http://picasaweb.google.com.au/James.Wither/Home# Re: New home AV System 13Jun 17, 2010 9:55 am Dangerjim Righto. The house is coming along very well. Nearlly finished bricks so Its over to us to do our bit (I have a licenced mate doing the electrical, and am sorting out the cabling etc for audio, network etc). I will be running RG6, and Cat 6 to most rooms. Does anyone know the best place to get these cables? And how many should I run to each room? We are currently putting in the wall plates at the moment. I have Hijacked My wifes linen cupboard and will cable back to there. Was thinking to each point 2 Cat6 cables and 2Rg6? Is this enough/too much? Also Are there similar wall plates for speakers? whats the best speaker cabling to run? Cheers hope your licesend mate has his Open data ticket and will be supervising you the Entire time other wise you can't install any of the data cabling yourself.... he should be able to get you the Cat6, RG6 Speaker cabling at decent prices... Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: New home AV System 14Jun 17, 2010 10:53 am Quote: hope your licesend mate has his Open data ticket and will be supervising you the Entire time other wise you can't install any of the data cabling yourself.... he should be able to get you the Cat6, RG6 Speaker cabling at decent prices... Yeah I have one who is a licenced Lecco and another who works for Telstra so Its all sweet. They will be doing the work. I will just be there getting in the way. He got me quotes for $165 for 305m Cat6 and $40 for 100m RG6. We already paid for somfy motors for the blinds. The quote above was purely for “pre-wiring” so the blinds company can install the motors and blinds. That’s why we… 5 16252 Once you know the basics, the rest is easy. Read my post in the thread linked below. viewtopic.php?p=1919271#p1919271 2 19497 It's all about wireless, self install now. The cost/benefit of wired setups for the house are no longer what they used to be. Lots of wireless options. Eufy, Arlo and… 2 9780 |