Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation 1 Mar 23, 2010 12:42 pm Hi Team, I am in the process of doing some cosmetic renovations to my place and planning to do some of the following work. 1. Wall mount TV 2. Prepare all cabling for wall mount TV - So far i can think of the following (Please let me know if i am missing anything) Looking at buying wall plates from here & Here:(any other recommendations online?) http://www.cablechick.com.au/cables/av-wall-plates.htm?ref=1007&tc=wall_plates&gclid=CKnNzJaruqACFQgupAodSynr9Q http://www.selbyacoustics.com.au/StoreFrontProfiles/deluxeSFshop.aspx?sid=1&sfid=74520&c=84136&search_text=&srch=183957815&page=1 If you can provide some advice below please do! 1. If you recommend a particular wall-mount bracket for 40-50" LCD/Plasma please let me know 3. Running cables from TV (down wall) to wall plates - Looking at 3- Looking at putting in the following wall plates.... 3.a 2 or 4* HDMI 3.a 5.1 Speaker plate 3.b 1* RF 3.c 1* Component Y-Pb-Pr 3.d 1* RCA 3.e 1* DVI W. mini jack 3.f 1* Optical Audio (SPDIF) 3.g 4* Cat6 Ethernet Is there anything i am missing? I have large knowledge in Audio, but Audio video has been a long time. E.g. When i was last working with AV S-video was probably rated as the best connection. Now i assume HDMI is the best? Also does HDMI pass audio and video or is it just audio? What i am looking at setting up is basic home theater with the following 1* TV 1* 5.1 surround sound 1* possible amp for surround sound 1* Media Centre 1* PS3 If i am missing anything or you have some specific advice please let me know Cheers! Re: Cable Prep - wall mount Tv & HT - Some advice 2Mar 23, 2010 3:15 pm Quote: 3- Looking at putting in the following wall plates.... 3.a 2 or 4* HDMI 3.a 5.1 Speaker plate 3.b 1* RF 3.c 1* Component Y-Pb-Pr 3.d 1* RCA 3.e 1* DVI W. mini jack 3.f 1* Optical Audio (SPDIF) 3.g 4* Cat6 Ethernet I don't think you need that many wall plates (unless I am confused about your setup). I assume your AV equipment will all be co-located near (i.e. below) your wall-mounted TV - hence the reference to "low" vs "high" (behind your wall-mounted TV)? You also did not explain your speaker setup. If your AV equipment will be located elsewhere (different room, cupboard, other corner of the same room), then you face some other problems that I won't get into. If my assumption is correct, then all you need is: - 1* HDMI down low and 1* HDMI high connected together (all other HDMI inputs are going directly into your AMP, so you only need one cable to go from your AMP up and into your wall-mounted TV) - 5.1 speaker plate down low (to go from your AMP to your speakers if you are planning in-wall type speakers, otherwise you only need a 2.1 speaker plate as the centre and both fronts can be connected directly from the AMP) - 1 * RF (goes without saying as you need the signal from your external aerial). Depending on which "tuner" you use will dictate whether the RF plate should be high (behind the wall-mounted TV) or low (where the AV equipment is). - 1 * Optical Audio (same as with the HDMI setup, you need optical audio to go from your TV to your AMP if you plan on using the TV's internal "tuner" - if you plan on using the media centre as your "tuner", then you don't need this plate) - Cat6 is a good idea (for your media centre and future-proofing for networked AMPs, networked PVRs etc.... Forget about component, RC, DVI unless you have specific needs that you should explain. Hope that helps. Re: Cable Prep - wall mount Tv & HT - Some advice 3Jun 26, 2010 1:29 am JilaMint Quote: 3- Looking at putting in the following wall plates.... 3.a 2 or 4* HDMI 3.a 5.1 Speaker plate 3.b 1* RF 3.c 1* Component Y-Pb-Pr 3.d 1* RCA 3.e 1* DVI W. mini jack 3.f 1* Optical Audio (SPDIF) 3.g 4* Cat6 Ethernet I don't think you need that many wall plates (unless I am confused about your setup). I assume your AV equipment will all be co-located near (i.e. below) your wall-mounted TV - hence the reference to "low" vs "high" (behind your wall-mounted TV)? You also did not explain your speaker setup. If your AV equipment will be located elsewhere (different room, cupboard, other corner of the same room), then you face some other problems that I won't get into. If my assumption is correct, then all you need is: - 1* HDMI down low and 1* HDMI high connected together (all other HDMI inputs are going directly into your AMP, so you only need one cable to go from your AMP up and into your wall-mounted TV) - 5.1 speaker plate down low (to go from your AMP to your speakers if you are planning in-wall type speakers, otherwise you only need a 2.1 speaker plate as the centre and both fronts can be connected directly from the AMP) - 1 * RF (goes without saying as you need the signal from your external aerial). Depending on which "tuner" you use will dictate whether the RF plate should be high (behind the wall-mounted TV) or low (where the AV equipment is). - 1 * Optical Audio (same as with the HDMI setup, you need optical audio to go from your TV to your AMP if you plan on using the TV's internal "tuner" - if you plan on using the media centre as your "tuner", then you don't need this plate) - Cat6 is a good idea (for your media centre and future-proofing for networked AMPs, networked PVRs etc.... Forget about component, RC, DVI unless you have specific needs that you should explain. Hope that helps. Thank you JilaMint, I did not post the question but I was definately in need of your answer! I am in the same predicament at the moment, the only difference being that I have no clue when it comes to all this high tech stuff! We are about to build a new home and want to wall mount our plasma/LCD onto the wall and don't know if we're meant to have the connections/plates up high on the wall where the TV will be, or whether the wiring is "pulled" into the wall up high behind the TV, then pulled down to where all the powerpoint(s) and plate(s) will be located and then just plugged in down there? So to hear you explain it all as you did was very helpful. Now I guess I'd better speak to our builder about putting in some of this stuff! We will only have a simple setup - a wall mounted plasma/LCD, some free-standing surround sound and amp, and media player, DVD player/recorder, set top box (maybe, unless we can just get a digital aerial so then we won't need the set top box? (I'm not sure how all that works???)). We also have a projector but don't have any ideas how we will set that up... ie. will we simply sit it on a shelf high up on the rear wall or will we get it roof mounted? Either way I guess it'll have to be wired somehow to the media centre/player, which will be located below the opposite wall (where the plasma will be mounted, and we'll probably just mount the projector screen high above the wall-mounted plasma and only pull it down when we need it), so we will have to work out whether to wire that through the roof and down the TV wall so that it can connect to the media player, unless there is some other suggestion(s) you may have? Please excuse me if I make no sense. As I said earlier, I really have no clue with this type of stuff, and my husband is even worse than me! So we are definatley open to any basic solutions/suggestions. NB. It is quite a small room - approx 4.5M x 4M. Thank you. Re: Cable Prep - wall mount Tv & HT - Some advice 4Jun 26, 2010 10:40 am Here's a simple rule for you guys on this topic: With regards to HDMI, the fewer breaks/joins in the cable the better off you are. So, where you can avoid terminating a HDMI cable with a wallplate and instead can run the cable straight out of a 'gromet' or 'cable portal' and connect it directly to the device I recommend doing just that. Re: Cable Prep - wall mount Tv & HT - Some advice 5Jun 28, 2010 5:11 pm [quote="Rodda"]Here's a simple rule for you guys on this topic: With regards to HDMI, the fewer breaks/joins in the cable the better off you are. So, where you can avoid terminating a HDMI cable with a wallplate and instead can run the cable straight out of a 'gromet' or 'cable portal' and connect it directly to the device I recommend doing just that.[/quote] Thank you Rodda. I learn something new everyday on this site! aldavies3. Re: Cable Prep - wall mount Tv & HT - Some advice 6Jul 01, 2010 1:29 pm aldavies3 set top box (maybe, unless we can just get a digital aerial so then we won't need the set top box? (I'm not sure how all that works???)). You'll still need a set top box or a digital capable TV to decode the digital signal. The aerial makes little difference. I've got a $25 aerial on my roof at the moment, and I have no isses on my digital tv. The wonders of digital transmissions! Also, if you've got the dosh, I'd suggest a ceiling mounted projector. But it's the same theory as the wall mounted TV. You'll need to run whatever audio/video cables you want to use from the projector back to where your dvd player/set top box/amp is. So you'd probably put a wall plate on the ceiling next to the projector mount, and one on the wall behind the cabinet with your av devices in it. Homestead Homes SA: The Lamont Bayswood Estate; Aldinga Beach Preliminary Signing: April 2010 Floorplans: 13 June 2010 Building Contract: 19 June 2010 Selections: 28 Sept 2010 Scraped; Trenching: 21 Jan 2011 Slab Poured: 28 Jan 2011 Framing: 17 Feb 2011 | Completed 24 Feb 2011 Roof & Gutters: 02 Mar 2011 Bricks: 03 Mar 2011 Wire-up: 12 Mar 2011 Re: Cable Prep - wall mount Tv & HT - Some advice 7Jul 01, 2010 1:50 pm rockabilly_kid aldavies3 set top box (maybe, unless we can just get a digital aerial so then we won't need the set top box? (I'm not sure how all that works???)). You'll still need a set top box or a digital capable TV to decode the digital signal. The aerial makes little difference. I've got a $25 aerial on my roof at the moment, and I have no isses on my digital tv. The wonders of digital transmissions! correct rockabilly_kid Also, if you've got the dosh, I'd suggest a ceiling mounted projector. But it's the same theory as the wall mounted TV. You'll need to run whatever audio/video cables you want to use from the projector back to where your dvd player/set top box/amp is. So you'd probably put a wall plate on the ceiling next to the projector mount, and one on the wall behind the cabinet with your av devices in it. wal plate not needed at the roof unless you want it to look overly neat... but a simple cable gromet/ outlet hole is all that is needed on the ceiling.. same goes for near your equipment at the other end.. every time you add a connector/ sex changer it is a chance for one more part to break/ induce noise/ Image problems... Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Cable Prep - wall mount Tv & HT - Some advice 8Jul 02, 2010 1:22 am Thank you everyone. I am starting to understand it all a bit better now and now have a better idea of what we will need. Thank you for your help and time and advice. Much appreciated. Re: Cable Prep - wall mount Tv & HT - Some advice 9Jul 02, 2010 10:39 am Pugs wal plate not needed at the roof unless you want it to look overly neat... but a simple cable gromet/ outlet hole is all that is needed on the ceiling.. same goes for near your equipment at the other end.. every time you add a connector/ sex changer it is a chance for one more part to break/ induce noise/ Image problems... Yeah, fair point. I'm a bit anal when it comes to neatness though ;o) Homestead Homes SA: The Lamont Bayswood Estate; Aldinga Beach Preliminary Signing: April 2010 Floorplans: 13 June 2010 Building Contract: 19 June 2010 Selections: 28 Sept 2010 Scraped; Trenching: 21 Jan 2011 Slab Poured: 28 Jan 2011 Framing: 17 Feb 2011 | Completed 24 Feb 2011 Roof & Gutters: 02 Mar 2011 Bricks: 03 Mar 2011 Wire-up: 12 Mar 2011 If what you describe is correct then the brick wall has been dry lined with villa board. 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