Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation 1 Jan 30, 2010 4:53 pm Hi all We are looking at putting a HT in our living area so want to make it adaptable so it looks like a living area when not in use. So we are looking at a motorised screen above the electric fireplace (not in use during viewing) and ceiling speakers. The only part exposed when not in use will be the projector mounted on the ceiling. 1.So my questions are - what is the quality of ceiling speakers? we have 2 toodlers so wont be in full blast at night anyway. Does in affect the surround sound experience and can you get a sub woofer ceiling speaker? 2. What is the approx cost of a drop down projecter from the ceiling and installation costs. We have a high pitched roof so access is not an issue. Any experienced advice would be appreciated Cheers Re: Hidden Home Theatre 2Jan 31, 2010 5:21 pm Hi mate. If you have to use In-ceiling speakers then at least try to ensure they are decent ones, and they preferably have angled baffles to better project their sound at you to sound like they are lower. Can you use In-wall flush mounted speakers, at least for the front 3? If you can it will sound a bit better still. Having a motorised projector lift will set you back at least $3000 (installed), unless you want a 'cheap import' one (which I wouldn't touch) and even then it would be over $2000 installed... Re: Hidden Home Theatre 3Jan 31, 2010 5:59 pm Cheers Rod Appreciate the advice, think roof mounted projector will surfice in this case due to price. We cant do the wall speakers due to the colour of the wall unless of course we paint over them which would probably block the grill up. Are you able to recommend a decent brand? will it still produce some sort of surround sound. I assume it will but best to ask the expert. Thanks mate Re: Hidden Home Theatre 4Feb 01, 2010 7:16 am Hi mate. You can actually paint the grilles on most if not all In-wall and In-ceiling speakers - just make sure you do a couple of light coats so you don't block any of the holes... Most brands are also suited to what you want. I have experience with Jamo, Elan, Boston Acoustics and Paradigm, but for me the clear winner is Paradigm as they are cheaper than the others but the quality and sound is of the same high standard (well, perhaps except for the Boston Acoustics, but they are more expensive than the others by a noticeable margin....). Re: Hidden Home Theatre 5Feb 01, 2010 9:56 am Rodda Hi mate. You can actually paint the grilles on most if not all In-wall and In-ceiling speakers - just make sure you do a couple of light coats so you don't block any of the holes... Most brands are also suited to what you want. I have experience with Jamo, Elan, Boston Acoustics and Paradigm, but for me the clear winner is Paradigm as they are cheaper than the others but the quality and sound is of the same high standard (well, perhaps except for the Boston Acoustics, but they are more expensive than the others by a noticeable margin....). hve alook at getting them spary painted instead of brush/ roller painted... and or depending on hpw they are designed to be put together.. se eif you can have it done with out the actual speakers in place so all they are painting is on the outside... Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Hidden Home Theatre 6Feb 01, 2010 3:18 pm Sorry, I was only thinking spray-painting and apologise for not making that clear (you simply wouldn't use any other method). Almost all In-ceiling/In-wall speakers (certainly every type I've installed, and there have been more than I can count on my fingers...) have to have the grille off to mount them, so painting that is a no brainer, and all of the decent ones I've used in the past come with paint-shields so you can paint the speaker's surrounding edge without getting any on the drivers, etc. at all. Re: Hidden Home Theatre 7Feb 01, 2010 3:54 pm Rodda Sorry, I was only thinking spray-painting and apologise for not making that clear (you simply wouldn't use any other method) all is god mate just making it crystal clear that it is doable... would hate to have people think it wasn't... Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Hidden Home Theatre 8Feb 01, 2010 4:40 pm The installation instructions with my recently purchased (but not yet installed) in-wall/ceiling Jamo's suggest that you use an air-compressor after you have painted the grills. The idea is that you fire air from the back of the grill to remove or push through any wet paint that may be clogging the speaker grill holes. Seems like a reasonable and straight-forward approach. Re: Hidden Home Theatre 10Feb 02, 2010 6:21 pm It's gold Jerry, GOLD! P.S. You can buy cans of compressed air from Radio Parts/Jaycar etc. if you really want to go that far... We already paid for somfy motors for the blinds. The quote above was purely for “pre-wiring” so the blinds company can install the motors and blinds. 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