Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation 1 Jul 30, 2007 2:28 pm Hi All (Specially Matt Walker),
I am building new home, we are at wishlist stage i.e. quotation stage. We are preparing our wishlist in order to hand it to builder for quotation. We are trying to put everything single (even as tiny as toiler roll holder) item in a list, incase it is not thier standard stuff, so that we get proper quotation. If someone can suggest some points for cinema room please? here are couple of things which I have already included : 1) 2m raised floor at the back 2) double layer plastered board on all 4 walls ( for greater sound) 3) Acoustic insulation thanks, DM Re: Suggestion on dedicated cinema room 2Jul 31, 2007 2:45 pm DM,
You have it covered there! Consider perhaps having some conduits run in the walls / roof for future cabling if you are building a 2 story.. Ethernet / Network cable from your PC. Media Players are just starting! Well Done on the rest though. Re: Suggestion on dedicated cinema room 3Aug 03, 2007 9:30 am good to see another CRT user.
Everything you listed looks good except for the sliding door. Every HT designer I have spoken to has said that if you spend that kind of money on acoustic treatment/insulation etc, then you need to do better with the door. Acoustic doors are available, another option is a fire door which would ffer a similar level of acoustic performance. with your 2m raised floor at the rear - I presume you'll have a 4m ceiling?? not going to be much room between the ceiling and the viewer if you have any kind of normal ceiling height. dark grey colours will be best. try not to go for anything blue, red or green based at least as it will play havoc with your greyscale tracking. Keep it DARK, espcially with a CRT. and get it calibrated. Re: Suggestion on dedicated cinema room 4Aug 03, 2007 9:56 am pasey25 good to see another CRT user. Everything you listed looks good except for the sliding door. Every HT designer I have spoken to has said that if you spend that kind of money on acoustic treatment/insulation etc, then you need to do better with the door. Acoustic doors are available, another option is a fire door which would ffer a similar level of acoustic performance. with your 2m raised floor at the rear - I presume you'll have a 4m ceiling?? not going to be much room between the ceiling and the viewer if you have any kind of normal ceiling height. dark grey colours will be best. try not to go for anything blue, red or green based at least as it will play havoc with your greyscale tracking. Keep it DARK, espcially with a CRT. and get it calibrated. Pasey, Sorry....going to have to disagree with at least one point here. No Red as a room colour??? Why not??? Been to your local cinema lately? Red seats, Red carpet, Red drapes on the walls? Any dark colour would be fine. My preference would be to browns, greys, reds but any dark shade is fine! As for the raised section I think he meant the depth rather than the height. Re: Suggestion on dedicated cinema room 6Aug 03, 2007 10:10 pm Got a few more minutes up my sleeve now as I've finally wound up work for the week.
Thought I'd expand on the previous post. Red might look good and may be used in cinemas etc, but if you think that it won't affect your image quality then I can't agree. If digitalmbs is going to be running a CRT projector then I'm going to assume that the image quality is a high priority. light reflections and the way a surrounding colour affects your perception of colour within an image will be difficult to correct for with a CRT, or any projector for that matter and make achieving an optimum image difficult. The correct colour & greyscale tracking is one of the most important factors in image quality. Re: Suggestion on dedicated cinema room 7Aug 05, 2007 3:58 pm Yeah, but Pasey you're talking about things that effect the 0.1 percentile of the overall result. I know of very, very few home theatres that are painted dark grey (or black, for that matter).
I'd actually like to hear from you why you believe CRT to still be superior to digital technologies in 2007. I reckon all of the available technologies have their pros and cons, and the end result (unless you have multiple tens-of-thousands of dollars to invest solely in your projector) is always some sort of compromise to some degree. After spending many, many hours over the last 20 years helping my dad converge 3 different CRT projectors over the years (he still runs a decent sized BARCO CRT, after owning 2 different Sony models), I much prefer the ease of installation and adjustment of a DLP or LCD (I personally prefer DLP), as well as the improved sharpness and brightness. Re: Suggestion on dedicated cinema room 8Aug 05, 2007 4:51 pm Rodda Yeah, but Pasey you're talking about things that effect the 0.1 percentile of the overall result. I know of very, very few home theatres that are painted dark grey (or black, for that matter). I'd actually like to hear from you why you believe CRT to still be superior to digital technologies in 2007. I reckon all of the available technologies have their pros and cons, and the end result (unless you have multiple tens-of-thousands of dollars to invest solely in your projector) is always some sort of compromise to some degree. After spending many, many hours over the last 20 years helping my dad converge 3 different CRT projectors over the years (he still runs a decent sized BARCO CRT, after owning 2 different Sony models), I much prefer the ease of installation and adjustment of a DLP or LCD (I personally prefer DLP), as well as the improved sharpness and brightness. Rod, I don't agree its 0.1 percentile. I also see alot of theaters and have a trained eye for colour. And I've calibrated (or tried to) projectors in an environment with strong red, green or blue based paint/drapes close to the projected image border. It makes getting the right result more difficult - no doubt about it. The colourimeter doesn't lie. On those theaters pained black, you're right there aren't many. Most theater rooms are used as multi use rooms. Black isn't right in this multi use environment. In this case though, the OP is asking for suggestions on a dedicated room. Now that doesn't mean that some colour can't be used, but ideally it should be well away from areas where the projected image will light it up so that the colour is seen. Let me tell you that there is nothing better than watching an image that looks like its floating in space because the entire surrounding area is black. On the CRT issue Rod, I'm not going to get into an argument about it here but my opnion is for the amount of money invested, CRT offers the best image quality for the criteria I value most. I get 10ftl on my screen, so its plenty bright enough. Its also plenty sharp after I finished tweaking it, it takes very little maintenance (contrary to popular opinion). Installation ease isn't really an issue, since I only have to do it once. Its also comparatively cheap to run, they're easy to fix unlike DLP/LCD's and have a much longer operating life since most were designed for commercial applications. Anyway, like you said, there are pros and cons for each, but CRT is right for me. Re: Suggestion on dedicated cinema room 9Aug 18, 2007 8:10 pm pasey25 Rod, I don't agree its 0.1 percentile. I also see alot of theaters and have a trained eye for colour. And I've calibrated (or tried to) projectors in an environment with strong red, green or blue based paint/drapes close to the projected image border. It makes getting the right result more difficult - no doubt about it. The colourimeter doesn't lie. On those theaters pained black, you're right there aren't many. Most theater rooms are used as multi use rooms. Black isn't right in this multi use environment. In this case though, the OP is asking for suggestions on a dedicated room. Now that doesn't mean that some colour can't be used, but ideally it should be well away from areas where the projected image will light it up so that the colour is seen. Let me tell you that there is nothing better than watching an image that looks like its floating in space because the entire surrounding area is black. On the CRT issue Rod, I'm not going to get into an argument about it here but my opnion is for the amount of money invested, CRT offers the best image quality for the criteria I value most. I get 10ftl on my screen, so its plenty bright enough. Its also plenty sharp after I finished tweaking it, it takes very little maintenance (contrary to popular opinion). Installation ease isn't really an issue, since I only have to do it once. Its also comparatively cheap to run, they're easy to fix unlike DLP/LCD's and have a much longer operating life since most were designed for commercial applications. Anyway, like you said, there are pros and cons for each, but CRT is right for me. pasey, are you same pasey as the one who is in HTCENTRAL forum? well I am true CRT lover, I had 2 x 1272 before and thinking to go for 1292 for new house as price is decreased as well. However I never had dedicated room hence I wanted to make it right at first place. Also to minimise scan-lines I will be running it through HTPC. About 2m is depth of the raised floor and height will about 30cms ( 2 step of 15cms each at the entry), wht do you recomend for screen? I mean fixed sceen or glass bid or matt? any suggestion for screen masking for 2 aspect ratio 16:9 and 4:3. thanks DM Re: Suggestion on dedicated cinema room 10Aug 18, 2007 8:29 pm yes, that is me. I never liked the 1292 much compared to some other CRTs.x
anyway, I'm not sure what you're asking about with regard to all the measurements that you provided, its not very clear. On the screen type, I'd suggest a fixed screen, not glass beaded, but maybe something a bit more reflective than a unity gain matt screen. Depends on how much money you want to spend. you could do something with a ready made screen from a local seller, to something high end like a stewart, or do a DIY job with some kind of pearlescent paint like gesso or something more impressive like screen goo. As for masking I'd suggest not bothering with a 4:3 screen, I doubt you'll get much use out of the extra screen material. just watch the 4:3 material (which I'm guessing will be in the minority) with black bars in the 16:9 frame. I'd suggest a masking system for 2.35:1 films though, there are many different ways you can acheive it depending on your DIY skills. There is plenty of info on this on AVSforum.com if you feel like doing some reading. Thank for yes basically what to remove and what to add, where to place them 2 7328 No the fireplace doesn’t work. It’s been enclosed. I’m not sure what was removed, as it was done quite some time ago - well before what I can see with photos online… 2 11584 I have a really long hallway which is 1100mm W x 11500mm L I would appreciate if anyone can give suggestions to light it up with Linear LED lights that goes from wall to… 0 8815 |