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they look like wanky Yank/ european things... as long as the cables are secured so you can get the with your hands through the Gyprock then you will be fine.. it is hard to explain in writting stuff that is second nature to me on a job site
Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation Re: New house build: What tools, hardware for AV prewiring? 21Nov 16, 2009 6:08 pm slknv Any advice on where to buy those little palstic boxes to curl up wires in? I figure I'll start at bunnings and try electrical shops after that. Tim they look like wanky Yank/ european things... as long as the cables are secured so you can get the with your hands through the Gyprock then you will be fine.. it is hard to explain in writting stuff that is second nature to me on a job site Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: New house build: What tools, hardware for AV prewiring? 22Nov 17, 2009 12:28 pm Pugs slknv Any advice on where to buy those little palstic boxes to curl up wires in? I figure I'll start at bunnings and try electrical shops after that. Tim they look like wanky Yank/ european things... plus the guys (or girls ) installing the insulation will be not happy with those plastic boxes everywhere. better off just taping/fixing the wire to the stud. Re: Home theatre room frame complete, need speaker wire! 23Feb 09, 2010 7:54 pm Hi guys - chippies finished the ground floor frame today, and this is how my HT room currently looks; Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Approx 5x7m, acoustitherm insulation, double glazed windows, square set cornice, 2.7m ceiling. I got most of the AV wiring I need like HDMI, component etc, but I need around 200m of 12,14 or 16ga speaker cable as I want to do a little prewiring. Does anyone know where I can get bulk speaker cable (any discounts available out there for homeone members?). Will need to buy it fairly soon, as frame should be complete end of Feb and lockup the month after! Might also buy a few pairs of in-ceiling speakers, if I decide to not use my existing speakers. Tim Knockdown and rebuild - building Metr1con Nolan 41 (43) @ http://tim-and-tina.blogspot.com! http://www.verdantdental.com.au Re: Home theatre room frame complete, need speaker wire! 24Feb 09, 2010 8:51 pm slknv Does anyone know where I can get bulk speaker cable (any discounts available out there for homeone members?). I'd be interested as well. Granted our timeframe is a bit more relaxed, but we have three rooms with inbuilt speakers and I don't want to leave it up to the builder to decide what kind of speaker wire to use. Stefan Building the M3tr!con Liberty 42 at Stonecutters Ridge. The New Build Blog - "Life, In Progress." Stonecutters Ridge Community Website | My photos Re: Home theatre room frame complete, need speaker wire! 25Feb 09, 2010 9:04 pm Go to the Selby Acoustics website - great quality stuff and they have fantastic service. Got my cabling through them and it was delivered in a couple of days. Will definately use them again. Re: Home theatre room frame complete, need speaker wire! 28Feb 10, 2010 1:18 pm Agree with Rodda and Jilamint, Selby is very good and often have very high quality interconnects going cheap. $90 RCA's out for $43 etc. PD Hayman 34 H1 Thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=29460&start=0 Blog http://miazfolly.blogspot.com Tiles 25/3/09 Colors 6/4/09 Tender 7/5/09 Contract 28/5/09 Land 16/11/09 Re: Home theatre room frame complete, need speaker wire! 29Feb 10, 2010 9:42 pm I'm a yank and I've never seen plastic boxes like that before. However, by code in most places in the US plastic boxes are required inside walls where electrical cables are connected to switches and power points. Not entirely sure exactly why, but some kind of safety thing: http://homerenovations.about.com/od/ele ... lecbox.htm Re: Home theatre room frame complete, need speaker wire! 30Feb 10, 2010 10:09 pm ok... any advice on what gauge to use? My current amp isn't that powerful, can't recall the specs and it's boxed up in storage somewhere, typical yamaha AV, paid about $800 for it about 6 years ago (oooo, old... no HDMI or upscaling or anything, just component!) but will probably upgrade to a newer unit in the next year or two after house is built. I'm also trying to decide whether to use my existing surround speakers (typical little rectangular boxes) with my HT - I've seen a few HT rooms where they're mounted off the wall on brackets, but no matter what they are, they all look ugly sticking out like that. Could go for in ceiling surrounds so they're not so visible, I'm just not sure about the performance aspect of having the sound come from the roof, instead of at sitting-down-ear-level. mmm... so many decisions to make! T&T Knockdown and rebuild - building Metr1con Nolan 41 (43) @ http://tim-and-tina.blogspot.com! http://www.verdantdental.com.au Re: Home theatre room frame complete, need speaker wire! 31Feb 13, 2010 9:02 am slknv ok... any advice on what gauge to use? My current amp isn't that powerful, can't recall the specs and it's boxed up in storage somewhere, typical yamaha AV, paid about $800 for it about 6 years ago (oooo, old... no HDMI or upscaling or anything, just component!) but will probably upgrade to a newer unit in the next year or two after house is built. I'm also trying to decide whether to use my existing surround speakers (typical little rectangular boxes) with my HT - I've seen a few HT rooms where they're mounted off the wall on brackets, but no matter what they are, they all look ugly sticking out like that. Could go for in ceiling surrounds so they're not so visible, I'm just not sure about the performance aspect of having the sound come from the roof, instead of at sitting-down-ear-level. mmm... so many decisions to make! T&T Hi slknv. I'm not sure what Rod or the others will suggest here, but I'd put nothing less than 16awg in the roof. My choice would be 12awg (smaller the number, bigger the cable) as you'll be future proofing your system when you do upgrade. Of course there are some very interesting reports around which suggest you can use 22awg under 18 meter runs without loss of integrity but other issues were encounted and we don't want to open the old cable can of worms do we now Don't forget to include extra cable runs which can drop a reasonalbe distance down the inside of your wall for 7.1 system. Even if you don't think you'll ever use 7.1 now, you may change your mind later. PD Hayman 34 H1 Thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=29460&start=0 Blog http://miazfolly.blogspot.com Tiles 25/3/09 Colors 6/4/09 Tender 7/5/09 Contract 28/5/09 Land 16/11/09 Re: Home theatre room frame complete, need speaker wire! 32Feb 13, 2010 3:01 pm I actually believe that 16AWG is a really decent size for all applications except where the speakers will be quite serious/critical and are a fair bit more high-end than what the average Joe uses (eg. the front speakers in a very serious Home Cinema or a critical HiFi listening room). Re: Home theatre room frame complete, need speaker wire! 33Feb 13, 2010 5:12 pm Rodda I actually believe that 16AWG is a really decent size for all applications except where the speakers will be quite serious/critical and are a fair bit more high-end than what the average Joe uses (eg. the front speakers in a very serious Home Cinema or a critical HiFi listening room). Can't say I disagree with Rod one bit, but then I've always subscribed to the 'Bigger Better, Harder Faster' philosophy..... yes, call it a weakness and an addiction to high end audio products too doesn't help. PD Hayman 34 H1 Thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=29460&start=0 Blog http://miazfolly.blogspot.com Tiles 25/3/09 Colors 6/4/09 Tender 7/5/09 Contract 28/5/09 Land 16/11/09 Re: Home theatre room frame complete, need speaker wire! 34Mar 05, 2010 2:16 pm I have decided to upgrade my speaker wire as I was told that it would enhance the quality of sound. While the stereo was on (one speaker already plugged in and boomin') I was plugging the other one in the back when I noticed a spark followed by speaker distortion and a very bad odor. Could someone tell me what happened, if so was it my fault? and it does seem to still work although the smell is still occurring. What could happen? what happened? Re: Home theatre room frame complete, need speaker wire! 35Mar 11, 2010 9:18 am Disconnecting and/or reconnecting speakers to an amplifier must ALWAYS be done with the amplifier OFF! It is 100% clear that whatever damage was done when you were doing that was a direct result of connecting the speakers while the amp was on (sorry). The smell simply means you have cooked something (you didn't specify from which device the smell is coming). If the smell is coming from the amp then you've cooked one or more of it's internal components - transistors (which are the main components in the amp that drive/power the speakers), something else maybe... If it's the speaker then you've cooked at least one of the drivers (tweeter, woofer, etc.) - likely charred the voice coil in one of them. This happens when the driver gets too much (they can handle a little for various (albeit small) lengths of time depending on their quality and strength) clipping or distortion. Once this has happened the driver is never going to be the same - you don't fix drivers you replace them... Re: Home theatre room: Plastered! page2 36May 12, 2010 2:44 pm Well, my HT room has just been plastered! I ended up running in 16ga speaker wire to 7 surrounds in the HT room, and doing 5.1 in the family & leisure rooms, plus stereo speakers to the outdoor room. In the HT, there's 2 HDMIs, a component and a VGA going to the projector, which has a power supply in the roof space controlled by a wall switch, very happy with how it's working out so far. The room has double glazed windows and acoustitherm insulation. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ This is looking towards the back of the room. I plan to build a riser for recliners. Will paint the walls & ceiling a neutral grey, and get some good blockout curtains or romans for the 2 windows. I've stuck in a few noggins so there's a bit of flexibility in mounting the projector, as I currently have a 4:3 but want a HD widescreen/anamorphic projector later when there's funds available! Builder will put in 3 batten lights, but I'll get my sparky in to end up with 9 downlights on 2 seperate dimmer circuits. I also managed to get the sparkies doing the house to put the HT room on a separate circuit to the rest of the house, so hopefully I've got most of the bases covered! T&T Knockdown and rebuild - building Metr1con Nolan 41 (43) @ http://tim-and-tina.blogspot.com! http://www.verdantdental.com.au Re: Home theatre room: Plastered! page2 37May 12, 2010 10:02 pm Quote: Will paint the walls & ceiling a neutral grey, and get some good blockout curtains or romans for the 2 windows. Not sure on your budget for window covers, but I have a window (which I wasn't allowed to make smaller by the builder) which measures 2.4 x 1.2 which I'm having covered with a roller blind with 100% blockout material. The head is incased inside a sealed tube with the edges locked into side 'C' channels which don't allow any light to penetrate the edges. It fits to the outer edge of the window and cost me $807 fitted. Bought it through 'Luxaflex'. Just thought you'd like something extra to think about. PD Hayman 34 H1 Thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=29460&start=0 Blog http://miazfolly.blogspot.com Tiles 25/3/09 Colors 6/4/09 Tender 7/5/09 Contract 28/5/09 Land 16/11/09 Re: Home theatre room: What neutrall grey to use? 38Sep 23, 2010 10:46 pm Well guys, we had handover last week and pretty exhausted from all the cleaning and moving done since then. we were meant to have carpets in tomorrow, but they've been delayed a while - so I'm thinking I might take the opportunity to slap some paint in the walls of the HT room. I've already pulled through all my projector cables and exposed my speaker wiring so the groundwork is done. To stick with the cool grey colours of the house, I'm planning to do all the walls in the HT a light neutral grey with a darker grey shade on the ceiling. Been researching for hours on AVS forums and other resources to find the best neutral grey to use (will also use it as a projection screen until I decide what kind of fixed screen to install) but wondering if anyone knows what premixed paint in Australia is a true neutral grey? T&T Knockdown and rebuild - building Metr1con Nolan 41 (43) @ http://tim-and-tina.blogspot.com! http://www.verdantdental.com.au Re: Home theatre room: What neutrall grey to use? 39Oct 09, 2010 9:37 am So anyways... with some help from the home theatre fanatics at avsforum.com, gone with Dulux endless dusk walls and Musing ceiling. SLight green tinge on this photo but not in real life. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ And this test pic, before any painting was done. Thought it'd be a bit bigger at 5m throw distance, but it's (kind of) big enough. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Have now pulled through all the surround speaker cables and fitted off HDMI, component, data, speaker hub etc. Next job is pulling through projector cables out of the ceiling and ceiling mounting the projector. T&T Knockdown and rebuild - building Metr1con Nolan 41 (43) @ http://tim-and-tina.blogspot.com! http://www.verdantdental.com.au That sucks! Hope it all works out. Good to move away from steel anyway for all your reasons, but it's also thermally poor. 16 17774 If what you describe is correct then the brick wall has been dry lined with villa board. That basically means that the villa board is glued to the brick wall with… 3 8299 I'm putting a new floor in my kitchen, slate flagging on a standard concrete slab. I have allowed for a bed thickness of up to 20mm to accommodate the different… 0 17536 |