Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation Re: Network and HT cabling questions 6Jun 21, 2009 6:35 pm Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Network and HT cabling questions 9Jun 26, 2009 1:15 pm Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Network and HT cabling questions 10Jun 26, 2009 1:57 pm So I should find a way that my Gigabit switch will not connect to the modem/router. What about if I use my built-in gigabit port of my Media Server to the gigabit switch then buy a wireless PCI card, install it into the media server for internet connection? is it legal? Thanks Pugs. Re: Network and HT cabling questions 11Jun 26, 2009 2:49 pm if you install cabling, and any computers using those cables connect to the telecommunications in anyway shape or form, your cabling is considered illigal. Even if one computer has a USB modem is plugged into it and its connected by your installed cables. If a HT computer connects to your modem and has a wifi card that connects to other PC's in your house which use your DYI cables.. Still illigal. Just get a cable sparky to do it and save the headache. ---------------------------------------- Building the PD Lisbon 24 http://www.porterdavis.com.au/#homeviewer/lisbon/24 Blog of our progress. http://lisbon24.blogspot.com/ Homeone build thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28665 Re: Network and HT cabling questions 12Jun 26, 2009 2:55 pm as Timmy has explained it isn't the equipment it is the Illegally installed cables... I am Truelly over posting this time and time again... I'd rather just help people with their choices of equipment instead of sounding like a broken record Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Network and HT cabling questions 13Jun 29, 2009 11:21 am At this stage, installing by a licenced cabler (get one with an open licence so he/she can also do your phone lines) is the best way to go, especially if the walls aren't up. I would not trust just any electrician to do it, as they may not be licenced, or if they are, they may not be familiar with the finer details, such as not untwisting the cable just to make life easier. I'd also go with Cat 6; not much more expensive, and more future-proof. Personally I went with Krone Cat 6e (so called; AFAIK, there isn't an Enhanced Cat 6) end to end (ie from jack to patch panel) for both data and phone, so I can change things around if I need to steal an extra data or phone point. Re: Network and HT cabling questions 14Jun 29, 2009 12:50 pm If the netwrok is not electrcally connected to the telecommunciation network then you can wire the data yourself. If anyone has conflicting documentated legal information, please let me know the relavent legislation or standard. This means that if you have a wireless connection to the telecommunciation network you are OK to do your own wiring. The telcommunciations company are not worried about what informaiton goes down the telephone line, they just don't want electrical problems (short circuits, mains voltages, etc). As long as you have electrical isolation (wireless or other means) then the data network is yours to wire to your hearts content. Again, if someone thinks this is incorrect, please refer me to the appropriate documentation. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Network and HT cabling questions 16Jun 29, 2009 8:57 pm PHL At this stage, installing by a licenced cabler (get one with an open licence so he/she can also do your phone lines) is the best way to go, just to let you kow anyone with a rescricted Cabling licence can run network/ Phone cables around they just can't work on the NTD/first Point they can install it, just not "connect" it. but i can install netorking and secondary phone points no problems as for "seperate " outlets 2 x ethernet runs to each room is bare minimum for a structured system esp if you have enough points to warrant a patch pannel (which is easier for cable id) but if you where to run an above system with VOiP phones you would need a second switch for those and your networked devices Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Network and HT cabling questions 17Jun 30, 2009 12:53 am not that it really makes that much difference, but the specs for cat6e are from point to point you should have min 15m of cable to be able to reach the max speed of the cable, this is only if your fussy like myself. Regards Andrew Re: Network and HT cabling questions 18Jun 30, 2009 9:23 am well if we are beign fussy it is actually Cat6A.... Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Network and HT cabling questions 19Jul 01, 2009 11:24 pm Pugs PHL At this stage, installing by a licenced cabler (get one with an open licence so he/she can also do your phone lines) is the best way to go, just to let you kow anyone with a rescricted Cabling licence can run network/ Phone cables around they just can't work on the NTD/first Point they can install it, just not "connect" it. but i can install netorking and secondary phone points no problems Thanks for the correction; I was thinking of the NTD as well, as I wanted mine replaced (and wanted a cleaner cable run that what was existing), but my cabler had a restricted licence, and could not touch that. Pugs but if you where to run an above system with VOiP phones you would need a second switch for those and your networked devices Why would a second switch be required? At most just seperate out that segment with a VLAN, although I've never found the need to do so, unless you mean a second patch panel. Re: Network and HT cabling questions 20Jul 02, 2009 1:55 am ok I'm guessing with "normal" IP related phones ie ones with MAC addys and such yeah just patch into a switch and off ya go.. and yeah VoiP stuff is new to me tho i just have bought and configured my new all in one today a BiPAC 704VNPX and with "POT's" you would need to set up a section of a patch bay where you would connect the handsets to the "system" which is what I'm doing for my main client atm Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Thanks for that! 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