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For long runs of HDMI you could consider HDMI-over-ethernet. In other words, the cable is CAT5 or CAT6 and it is terminated with HDMI signal converters/connections.
Yeah and it's also cheaper than paying premium price for the 20m cables.
Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation Re: HDMI Cables 21Sep 13, 2009 10:02 am JilaMint For long runs of HDMI you could consider HDMI-over-ethernet. In other words, the cable is CAT5 or CAT6 and it is terminated with HDMI signal converters/connections. Yeah and it's also cheaper than paying premium price for the 20m cables. Re: HDMI Cables 22Sep 14, 2009 3:44 am Isn't HDMI a digital technology? I would have thought that over small distances where cable impedence is not a issue that the signal from a HDMI cable would either be on or off. I think that as cable length increases, impedence in the cable also increases and this reduces the signal strength at the output (eg a digital TV). If the signal strength at the output falls below a certain threshold, then information can be lost. This is why over longer cable runs, HDMI data is boosted/amplified in order to preserve the integrity of the binary data. Forgive me from diverging slightly off topic, but with any new technology, marketing hype often determines what the consumer regards as the must have item. From a digital TV perspective, marketing would suggest that the consumer seek out a full HD TV. More pixels equals a better TV. Sure this may be the case when there is a large screen viewed up close, however picture quality is also effected by things such as contrast ratios, refresh rates and viewing distances. A small screen with great contrast but fewer pixels may appear better to the eye than a screen with more pixels and less contrast when viewed from a distance because due to distance the human eye cannot gain the benefits of a greater number of of pixels. When buying any new technology it's best to arm yourself with knowledge. Do a search of the net and try to understand what all of the technical jargon means. At the end of the day it might just save you a little bit of hard earned! Re: HDMI Cables 23Sep 14, 2009 12:41 pm serge44 any experts out there with solutions for 10m? I think it really comes down to a cost decision for a 10m HDMI cable run. I would consider that a "medium" distance. If the cost of a 10m HDMI cable compares to a HDMI-over-ethernet solution - then go with the straight HDMI cable. If it was for a 20m run, I would be leaning further towards HDMI-over-ethernet. Re: HDMI Cables 24Sep 18, 2009 12:21 pm Here's a good article about "speed" ratings of cables and HDMI in particular: http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/ ... cables.htm FWIW I have bought cables from this company in the past; they were delivered quickly, are all well constructed and perform exactly as promised. At a fraction of the price of Monster's products. This includes a 15m hdmi cable that I would hate to think what Monster would charge for their equivalent. Re: HDMI Cables 25Sep 20, 2009 9:48 am Has anyone got any more information on HDMI over Ethernet? I want to run audio/video from a central hub in the home I am building. Several runs are over 20m (possibly 30m by the time we go up and down walls). The costs were enormous when I looked for HDMI. (Thousands of $ as very few make longer runs) I have asked my sparky to install 4 Ethernet points and an RG6 (?) to each bedroom/tv point so that we can have internet/phone and TV (both free to air on the RG6 and DVD/Fox as HDMI over the Ethernet) Have I done the right thing? Re: HDMI Cables 26Sep 20, 2009 1:17 pm Generally HDMI-over-ethernet solutions require a balun (a converter box) at each end to convert the HDMI to travel over ethernet cable (CAT5/6). Something like this: http://www.cablechick.com.au/cables/hdmi-extender-over-cat56-hdmi-1080p-signals-up-to-50-metres.html?ref=1032 Sounds like you are terminated the ethernet cables at each end into an ethernet wall plate. You should simply have them terminated with a RJ45 keystone and pulled through a hole in the wall. Then you can buy either one of the balun type setups above or one of the inbuilt wall plate types : http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HDMI-over-Cat5-Cat6-Wall-Plates-1080p-up-to-45-metres_W0QQitemZ220481958274QQcategoryZ109861QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D10%26ps%3D63. Note: this unit requires a pair of ethernet cables to transfer a 1080P true HD signal. All you need to do is simply plug in at each end and then you can take short HDMI cables from your devices into the wallpalate or into the balun/box. So - in summary - you've done the right thing by asking to have the cables installed, but you don't need to have them terminated into the wall plate for the HDMI signal transmission solution. Hope all of that makes some sense !? Re: HDMI Cables 27Sep 20, 2009 4:08 pm Thanks for that 1 more question, can i use these (ebay link) for shorter runs? and if so, how long? (they are cheaper but not powered so i assume no amplification and therefore shorter distances.) Some TVs will only be 10m away or less. Re: HDMI Cables 28Sep 22, 2009 12:19 pm Personally, I've also read enough online to believe monster cables are a ripoff. For my setup I use the cables from these two companies (they are both selling the same cables, just different suppliers). They are great cables - hdmi 1.3b certified, 10.2 Gbps rated, gold plated metal heads, braided cables (strong and flexible). http://oznetics.com.au/hdmi-cables-c-85.html http://www.ezyhd.com.au/hdmi-cables.html I've got 5 of their cables, other friends have also sourced from them and every has good results. Oh, one other thing is the cheap moulded plastic cables can sometimes fall appart when the metal male pin pulls out of the plastic head. Cheers, Paul Re: HDMI Cables 29Sep 22, 2009 12:56 pm PaulM Personally, I've also read enough online to believe monster cables are a ripoff. For my setup I use the cables from these two companies (they are both selling the same cables, just different suppliers). They are great cables - hdmi 1.3b certified, 10.2 Gbps rated, gold plated metal heads, braided cables (strong and flexible). http://oznetics.com.au/hdmi-cables-c-85.html http://www.ezyhd.com.au/hdmi-cables.html I've got 5 of their cables, other friends have also sourced from them and every has good results. Oh, one other thing is the cheap moulded plastic cables can sometimes fall appart when the metal male pin pulls out of the plastic head. Cheers, Paul Thanks for posting those links - they look like good quality cables and reasonable prices (...is that really possible ) Re: HDMI Cables 30Sep 22, 2009 3:40 pm +1 both have great service, but I use oznetics because they are closer to me + free postage doesn't hurt PaulM Personally, I've also read enough online to believe monster cables are a ripoff. For my setup I use the cables from these two companies (they are both selling the same cables, just different suppliers). They are great cables - hdmi 1.3b certified, 10.2 Gbps rated, gold plated metal heads, braided cables (strong and flexible). http://oznetics.com.au/hdmi-cables-c-85.html http://www.ezyhd.com.au/hdmi-cables.html I've got 5 of their cables, other friends have also sourced from them and every has good results. Oh, one other thing is the cheap moulded plastic cables can sometimes fall appart when the metal male pin pulls out of the plastic head. Cheers, Paul Re: HDMI Cables 31Sep 23, 2009 8:55 pm anyone had experience with this ===> Cablechick looking at this cable in particular ===> Premium 10m HDMI Cable (HDMI v1.3b Certified) ’’Quondo Omni Flunkus Mortati ’’ If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. Stila BK1 Build Thread The best place to talk about sport Re: HDMI Cables - Or Wireless? 33Nov 01, 2010 4:30 am Looks like wireless HDMI isn't too far away: http://hothardware.com/Reviews/WHDI-Kits-Explored-Asus-Wicast-briteView-HDelight/ Might be an option for longer runs Got a life, just can't find it! Re: HDMI Cables 34Nov 16, 2010 9:55 am Rodda The Data Guys I disagree. My point of view is: HDMI cables are a data cable and are speed rated. The cheap ones are not certified to a speed and may not give the best reproduction. I matched the cable speed to the data speed of the player to get a better picture than the supplied cheap version. I have tested this between my own setup and with a mates using the same products and interchanging cables. Just to disagree with your disagreement , the Selby ones ARE 'speed rated' (to be correct, they are tested and certified to the highest currently available standard - HDMI 1.3b). They are actually made in the same factory in China as many of the big name brands - the difference is the big names make you pay big bucks for those names and their pretty packaging... I bought 10 of these of Ebay for $30 delivered to my house with the same rating, and I bet most people wouldn't even notice the difference if there were any! |