Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation 1 Mar 28, 2009 9:19 pm Hi pro, I got confused about the connection to speakers on Sonos. For the ceiling speakers, is it wired or wireless? Which device will it be connected to if it is wired? If I put ZP90 (ie. the zoneplayer without amp) in kitchen while ZP120 (ie. the zoneplayer with amp) in master room, will there be any sounds to the ceiling speakers in kitchen (ie. with ZP90)? Sorry I'm not familiar with audio system....not sure what the amplifier functions.... Thanks for your help. Metricon Amira Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 2Mar 29, 2009 4:45 pm hi im not sure how to hook em up but i know the major distrubutor in australia if you ring the shop or the support they will help for sure Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 3Mar 29, 2009 9:17 pm Speakers MUST be driven by an amplifier. If you use a ZP90 then it needs to connect to an amp, then you connect the speakers to that amp. If you use a ZP120 then it comes with a built in amplifier which the speakers connect to. My recommendation would be to use a ZP120 in each zone (with the possible exception of the room where the computer with the music files is), so you only have 1 piece of equipment instead of 2 and only need one powerpoint for it. Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 4Mar 29, 2009 9:59 pm Rodda Speakers MUST be driven by an amplifier. If you use a ZP90 then it needs to connect to an amp, then you connect the speakers to that amp. If you use a ZP120 then it comes with a built in amplifier which the speakers connect to. My recommendation would be to use a ZP120 in each zone (with the possible exception of the room where the computer with the music files is), so you only have 1 piece of equipment instead of 2 and only need one powerpoint for it. Thanks for your detailed explanation, Rod. That means I have to specify where I put the amplifier before installation if I use ZP90. But why did the guy in argus technologies tell me that it requires amp on only one zone if I set up 2 zones? Did she assume me to link the ZP90 to my computer as computer can work as an amplifier? Metricon Amira Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 5Mar 31, 2009 2:27 pm Dont get the PC to be an amplifier, it wont work well at all. The only reason I could think of it is that you had a home theatre with a surround package that included an amp in there, and hooking ZP90 into that would be easier then anything else. Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 7Mar 31, 2009 8:44 pm Kikin, You are complicating the system. If you are buying Sonos just buy sonos gear. It is far easier and cheaper to integrate all the same gear than what you are suggesting here. Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 8Mar 31, 2009 9:19 pm I understand what kikin is trying to achieve as I'm going along similar lines. My plan was really to hide to some extent the entire install and use ceiling mounted speakers. With the ZP120 its fine to connect direct however the ZP90's will need an amp in between as we all know. This of course is solved if using all ZP120's for every zone you wish to create. The problem I think stems from the package deal that is the best way to buy it all supplies you 1 x amplified unit, 1 x non-amplified unit plus the fancy controller. In saying that probably cheaper to buy all 120's for each zone for the extra few hundred dollars than going and spending $400 on an amp for each. Any exy system but it does rate highly from most sources. Built 36sq Plantation "Retreat" on 4460m2 at Spring Mountain, Qld In Living and landscaping.. >>> ... http://retreatspring.blogspot.com Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 9Mar 31, 2009 9:35 pm ozzroo I understand what kikin is trying to achieve as I'm going along similar lines. My plan was really to hide to some extent the entire install and use ceiling mounted speakers. With the ZP120 its fine to connect direct however the ZP90's will need an amp in between as we all know. This of course is solved if using all ZP120's for every zone you wish to create. The problem I think stems from the package deal that is the best way to buy it all supplies you 1 x amplified unit, 1 x non-amplified unit plus the fancy controller. In saying that probably cheaper to buy all 120's for each zone for the extra few hundred dollars than going and spending $400 on an amp for each. Any exy system but it does rate highly from most sources. Thats a much politer way of saying it Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 10Mar 31, 2009 9:39 pm hehe thanks Matt. arrgghh damn this audio. Why can't there be the perfect system Another option Kikin is Apple Airport Express. At one stage I was thinking of hiding amps in the bedroom cupboards and then wiring the ceiling speakers up through there. Hook an Airport express up to each one and then run Airfoil Speakers on the PC to create the zones. You can then adjust/control the zones via an Ipod Touch. Bingo ! Built 36sq Plantation "Retreat" on 4460m2 at Spring Mountain, Qld In Living and landscaping.. >>> ... http://retreatspring.blogspot.com Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 11Mar 31, 2009 9:41 pm There is .... its called an Elan S6 in conjunction with a Logitech duet Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 12Mar 31, 2009 9:44 pm Yeah the logitech duets are good. Where can you buy just the receiver once you have the receiver and the first controller? Any A/V receivers that run say 4 zones? Built 36sq Plantation "Retreat" on 4460m2 at Spring Mountain, Qld In Living and landscaping.. >>> ... http://retreatspring.blogspot.com Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 13Mar 31, 2009 9:51 pm Usually ebay is a good spot but any logitech dealer can get them. TBH though how often do you relly need more than 1 thing playing in a different zone? Having installed many multi room systems they usually have the logitech as the main unit and a couple of tuners and a multi disc dvd player. In a 4 zone system the likelihood of more than 3 deifferent devices playing at once is very very low. (unless the house is massive!) As for 4 zones the elan does UP TO 6 but you can use it for 4 if you want. Wall controls , Infra red all available. Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 14Mar 31, 2009 10:37 pm I'm so happy to hear lots of comments here!! Among Sonos, Squeezebox and Apple Airport Express, which one would you prefer? Which one would be more user-friendly? I'm a IT idiot and not a handy man, which one should I go with? Thanks for your views! Metricon Amira Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 15Apr 01, 2009 6:53 am It all depends on what you’re trying to achieve, and what source you prefer to listen to. If for instance you like to listen to the radio in multiple locations, or TV, CD, etc, then you’ll need a unit that can accept line in sources, or use an AVR with multi zones as your source. On the other hand if you like to listen to music only, then you’ll need to decide if ripped files are your preference or streamed via the internet. If it’s ripped files then you’ll need to decide how you’re going to rip them, and what storage medium you’re going to stream them from. Leaving a computer on and streaming from that is relatively easy, although not so on power consumption and in some cases noise factor. Using a NAS for instance is a great method, although the different products have different requirements, yes an expensive NAS will support all, however some can utilise a NAS as cheap as $149.00 currently from the likes of Officeworks. If it’s streamed via the internet, then you’ll need to make sure whatever device you decide on will allow you to not only stream these services, but also if that service is available to you in Australia. Currently the popular sites are Napster, Rhapsody, and Last FM. Ease of using these devices is really up to the individual and if they can get their mindset around them, however if you can use an iPod, then you should be able to operate most of the streaming devices. In my opinion, you’re far better to have a look and play with the different products, tell your installer exactly what it is you want for the system to do for you, and which product you prefer, and see if they can provide it. Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 16Apr 01, 2009 7:29 am ozzroo Yeah the logitech duets are good. Where can you buy just the receiver once you have the receiver and the first controller? Any A/V receivers that run say 4 zones? I've heard and used both the Squeezebox and Duet, and IMO the Squeezebox is a better performer audio wise. Using an iTouch or iPhone as a remote is IMO a cost effective way of using these devices, moving forward I've no doubts the likes of these Apple products will also take over many of the functions that other remotes currently do so you will also reap these benefits. Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 17Apr 01, 2009 8:44 pm The duet is a squeezbox ... Not quite sure what you mean by this! Re: Speakers connection on Sonos System 20Apr 01, 2009 9:41 pm ok... I understand that buy how is it better? They are EXACTLY the same inside... The difference is in the way it is controlled only.... How can the audio performance be better? 3 48359 Hi all I'm currently building a duplex in Sydney and we need to do a new water connection to the second unit. The water main is on the other side of the road so we need… 0 4265 Once you know the basics, the rest is easy. 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