Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation 1 Dec 06, 2008 4:59 pm It has been in the news of late that the price of electronics, whitegoods, computers etc is set to rise in the new year. Would it be advisable to purchase items for my home theatre now (we are looking at a projector setup), even though the house hasn't been built yet? One risk we take with this is with warranty. We will waste at least 7 months of the warranty with the goods still sitting in the box. Any advice? Re: Buy Now or Later? 2Dec 06, 2008 5:03 pm That is the area that is going through negative inflation...
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I'm going to buck the trend here, the US, Japan and Europe are officially in recession. I can't see a company rising the price of there goods in such economic distress. Even though the cost of importing has increased, the prices of goods must decrease. I reckon prices will plato Re: Buy Now or Later? 7Dec 08, 2008 10:07 am Snake just my $0.02 I'm going to buck the trend here, the US, Japan and Europe are officially in recession. I can't see a company rising the price of there goods in such economic distress. Even though the cost of importing has increased, the prices of goods must decrease. I reckon prices will plato Unfortunately there have already been price rise announcements from people such as Canon, Fujifilm and various other companies. Maybe the AV industry is different Re: Buy Now or Later? 8Dec 08, 2008 11:19 am It's the exchange rate that's a killer. I was importing a lot of stuff from the US in July/August when the Pacific Peso was almost 1:1 with the greenback. That meant I was typcally saving about 50% at least on local ripoff prices. Now it's almost back to parity.
I'm interested to see how retailers deal with the rates. They certainly didn't lower local prices on US imported goods when the dollar was high. Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: Buy Now or Later? 9Dec 08, 2008 2:47 pm Well, just to clarify, the statement I made above is not my opinion - it's fact.
Marantz, Jamo, Mordaunt-Short, Paradigm and BenQ - to name a few - HAVE already increased their cost and RRP pricing (considering they always try to maintain the same margin between the two). The only reason it will be harder to see in items like TVs and DVD/Blu-Ray players is because they have been dropping so fast lately - they may have a small spike in an upward direction before then continuing to drop, or they may (as suggested above) plateau for a bit... But don't fool yourselves - If these products are costing the Australian importers/distributors 30% more for the shipments that are currently arriving vs what they were 2 months ago you can bet they will pass that cost straight on - they have their margins to maintain as well... Re: Buy Now or Later? 10Dec 09, 2008 7:35 am Rodda Well, just to clarify, the statement I made above is not my opinion - it's fact. Marantz, Jamo, Mordaunt-Short, Paradigm and BenQ - to name a few - HAVE already increased their cost and RRP pricing (considering they always try to maintain the same margin between the two). The only reason it will be harder to see in items like TVs and DVD/Blu-Ray players is because they have been dropping so fast lately - they may have a small spike in an upward direction before then continuing to drop, or they may (as suggested above) plateau for a bit... But don't fool yourselves - If these products are costing the Australian importers/distributors 30% more for the shipments that are currently arriving vs what they were 2 months ago you can bet they will pass that cost straight on - they have their margins to maintain as well... My pipe dream above will always be dream, http://www.itwire.com/content/view/22003/1103/ Re: Buy Now or Later? 11Dec 09, 2008 9:17 am Snake Rodda Well, just to clarify, the statement I made above is not my opinion - it's fact. Marantz, Jamo, Mordaunt-Short, Paradigm and BenQ - to name a few - HAVE already increased their cost and RRP pricing (considering they always try to maintain the same margin between the two). The only reason it will be harder to see in items like TVs and DVD/Blu-Ray players is because they have been dropping so fast lately - they may have a small spike in an upward direction before then continuing to drop, or they may (as suggested above) plateau for a bit... But don't fool yourselves - If these products are costing the Australian importers/distributors 30% more for the shipments that are currently arriving vs what they were 2 months ago you can bet they will pass that cost straight on - they have their margins to maintain as well... My pipe dream above will always be dream, http://www.itwire.com/content/view/22003/1103/ It's good to have dreams! Aslong as they are happy ones Re: Buy Now or Later? 12Jan 05, 2009 8:46 am ed. Snake Rodda Well, just to clarify, the statement I made above is not my opinion - it's fact. Marantz, Jamo, Mordaunt-Short, Paradigm and BenQ - to name a few - HAVE already increased their cost and RRP pricing (considering they always try to maintain the same margin between the two). The only reason it will be harder to see in items like TVs and DVD/Blu-Ray players is because they have been dropping so fast lately - they may have a small spike in an upward direction before then continuing to drop, or they may (as suggested above) plateau for a bit... But don't fool yourselves - If these products are costing the Australian importers/distributors 30% more for the shipments that are currently arriving vs what they were 2 months ago you can bet they will pass that cost straight on - they have their margins to maintain as well... My pipe dream above will always be dream, http://www.itwire.com/content/view/22003/1103/ It's good to have dreams! Aslong as they are happy ones Maybe I should have stuck my guns Have a read: http://www.news.com.au/business/money/story/0,28323,24869083-14327,00.html Re: Buy Now or Later? 13Jan 05, 2009 3:21 pm Dude, that article is misleading and avoiding the issue at best.
"... compared to a year ago..." Hah. How is that in any way a reflection of what we are actually talking about here. Let me be even clearer: Before our AU$ crashed we were getting US$0.90 - 0.95 for our AU$1.00. After our AU$ crashed we were getting US$0.65 (ish), and are not getting much better now I think, and here's why it will DIRECTLY effect what we have to pay for newly landed electronics etc. here: The importers/distributors here pay for the goods when they land here, and all transactions are done in US$. Hence, for all stock arriving from OS (ie. everything when it comes to the electronics etc. in our major stores) since the AU$ crash it could cost the importers up to 30+% more for the goods, an increase I know for a fact they are not willing to absorb (even though they may actually absorb a little bit, out of the kindness of their hearts). So unless the price of an LCD TV was already going to drop by more than 25+% over the next couple of weeks alone (if our AU$ had not crashed) I fail to see how we could possible pay less for them once the new stock goes on sale... Re: Buy Now or Later? 14Jan 05, 2009 7:17 pm Downward pressure on prices:
1) Electronics get cheaper with time 2) Global economic crises = low demand = lower prices Upward pressure on prices: 1) Australian dollar down to $0.71 versus $0.97 a few months ago. If it was me, I would wait. I think the first two factors will outweight the third factor. Also, I see the Australian dollar rising relative to the US dollar during the course of this year. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Buy Now or Later? 15Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm Thanks for all the advice. We have looked at the length of warranty on some products and have decided to get a few things now and leave a few things for later to purchase. Hopefully the best of both worlds. Re: Buy Now or Later? 16Jan 06, 2009 7:37 am Have we simply forgotten the old "supply and demand" LCD/Plasma manufacturers have so much supply at the moment, the only way price is heading is down (@ the moment anyway), when the current stock levels get depleted then the price will go up with Aus retailers needing to buy stock at the current exchange rate.
All the doom sayers said that prices will increase by 1st January, I bet my balls on it that the prices haven't changed one i outa, if I walked into my local jb-hifi today. Re: Buy Now or Later? 18Jan 07, 2009 10:30 am Casa2 Downward pressure on prices: 1) Electronics get cheaper with time 2) Global economic crises = low demand = lower prices Upward pressure on prices: 1) Australian dollar down to $0.71 versus $0.97 a few months ago. If it was me, I would wait. I think the first two factors will outweight the third factor. Also, I see the Australian dollar rising relative to the US dollar during the course of this year. Casa, i agree with comment 1 for downward pressure on prices as one would expect efficiencies in production and better technology. However, your second statement can be misleading. If you look at 101 economics the demand curve and the supply curve meet to give u the optimal price. (called equilibrium point) now if the demand decreases and shifts along the demand curve then prices will actually goes up b/c the supplier will produce less goods and its cost of production increases and thus pushes up the prices to a new equlibrium point (where demand meets supply). ie. shifts the supply curve However, if the demand curve shifts along the supply curve to the left (ie. the supplier production costs doesn't change) then prices will go down. Based on the facts the costs of supply has gone up (ie. due to exchange rates) therefore its a shift to the left of the supply curve thus resulting in higher prices. The above is a very simple analysis, as each pressure will influence on how the curve behaves (ie. movements in the demand and suppy curve). However, if you ceterus paribus (hold all things constant) whats happening now is an increased in cost of production therefore the supply curve will move to the left thus pushing up prices and decreasing demand. Probably more technical than people need to know but i was a bit bored a work ---->Some say that a recession is when your neighbour loses his/her job while a depression is when you lose yours!<----- Re: Buy Now or Later? 19Jan 07, 2009 11:07 am smeagol Casa2 Downward pressure on prices: 1) Electronics get cheaper with time 2) Global economic crises = low demand = lower prices Upward pressure on prices: 1) Australian dollar down to $0.71 versus $0.97 a few months ago. If it was me, I would wait. I think the first two factors will outweight the third factor. Also, I see the Australian dollar rising relative to the US dollar during the course of this year. Casa, i agree with comment 1 for downward pressure on prices as one would expect efficiencies in production and better technology. However, your second statement can be misleading. If you look at 101 economics the demand curve and the supply curve meet to give u the optimal price. (called equilibrium point) now if the demand decreases and shifts along the demand curve then prices will actually goes up b/c the supplier will produce less goods and its cost of production increases and thus pushes up the prices to a new equlibrium point (where demand meets supply). ie. shifts the supply curve However, if the demand curve shifts along the supply curve to the left (ie. the supplier production costs doesn't change) then prices will go down. Based on the facts the costs of supply has gone up (ie. due to exchange rates) therefore its a shift to the left of the supply curve thus resulting in higher prices. The above is a very simple analysis, as each pressure will influence on how the curve behaves (ie. movements in the demand and suppy curve). However, if you ceterus paribus (hold all things constant) whats happening now is an increased in cost of production therefore the supply curve will move to the left thus pushing up prices and decreasing demand. Probably more technical than people need to know but i was a bit bored a work smeagol... you just took me straight back to uni... Don't do it again! I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: Buy Now or Later? 20Jan 08, 2009 2:15 pm And here I was thinking I asked a really simple question! 9 19149 This is one of the reasons I decided to go overseas for my double glazed windows. As the builder indicated, he's worked on many upmarket builds, these were the most well… 13 15089 2 14224 |