Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation 1 Jun 13, 2013 8:30 pm Decorate your home. It gives the illusion that your life is more interesting than it really is. MY BUILD THREAD https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65479&p=1035832#p1035832 Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 4Jun 13, 2013 10:50 pm Decorate your home. It gives the illusion that your life is more interesting than it really is. MY BUILD THREAD https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65479&p=1035832#p1035832 Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 5Jun 13, 2013 10:54 pm Decorate your home. It gives the illusion that your life is more interesting than it really is. MY BUILD THREAD https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65479&p=1035832#p1035832 Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 7Jun 14, 2013 12:31 am Decorate your home. It gives the illusion that your life is more interesting than it really is. MY BUILD THREAD https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65479&p=1035832#p1035832 Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 9Jun 16, 2013 5:09 am Total Breeze Air Conditioning and Electrical - Based in Melbourne http://www.totalbreeze.com.au Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 10Jun 16, 2013 11:54 am Decorate your home. It gives the illusion that your life is more interesting than it really is. MY BUILD THREAD https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65479&p=1035832#p1035832 Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 11Jun 16, 2013 11:57 am Decorate your home. It gives the illusion that your life is more interesting than it really is. MY BUILD THREAD https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65479&p=1035832#p1035832 Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 12Jun 16, 2013 1:31 pm If using CBus to simply turn on some lights then yes, I agree that CBus in a residential situation can be nothing more than a toy to play with and show off, it would be there purely for "wank factor" I have seen CBus installations where a few sensors and a couple of timers would have done the same job for a fraction of the cost. I have made suggestions to customers in the past how we could do the same thing cheaper without CBus, but I don't pressure them into not using it just because I don't see the point. I'll just help them to better understand what they're getting and what it can do so that they can make a more informed decision. BellaButterfly wants to do a lot more than switch a few lights. Add Wiser and they can turn on the oven, heater and electric blanket from an iPhone or Android Phone before leaving the office and open the garage door/front gate before entering the street. Or how about home security? Most people aren't aware of CBus' potential and how it can be easily integrated into most alarms, surveilance systems and door control. Picture this, you're at work and you get a call from one of your kids, they've lost their keys to the house. Using the wiser on your phone you access the camera at your front door to see your loved one standing at the front gate in the rain, you then remotely open the front gate, open the front door, turn off the alarm and turn on the heater before they are half way up the garden path. CBus does have a valid place in residential situations, even if the installation is basic and only automates a few lights, if that's what somebody wants who are we to change their mind? Talking someone out of what they want is no better than talking them into something they didn't want in the first place. Custom touch screen interfaces are probably my favorite part of an installation as I can really go nuts with it from basic floor plans to scrolling full colour floorplans with animated buttons to photos of a room where touching the item on the photo controls it, like the light, curtains, doors, heater zones, projector screen and so on. A photo of the room with the lights on and then off gives the visual representation that the lights are on or off, you can have a still or flapping ribbon on the heater duct. I could go on and on, page after page. It really is that easy and adaptable. Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 13Jun 16, 2013 1:39 pm Ah, there you go, taking several hours to write a post inbetween playing with kids and making lunch means you miss other posts in the interim. I'm based in Mornington, but we go a lot further than Ballarat for work. Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 14Jun 16, 2013 2:29 pm Light Control? Easy Temperature control? Depends on the system. Replacing a thermostat on the wall? Easy. Connecting directly to a split system on the wall? A bit more complicated and can rely on modifying internal circuits that WILL void a warranty. You can also buy CBus compatible heating and cooling prducts off the shelf. Curtains/ Blinds? Easy Ability to unlock door remotely? Easy Maybe open or close windows as well if possible we had our laundry room soaked because of how the window is and when it rains hard the wind pushes it into the window and down the wall. I'd love to be able to have it shut at first signs of rain. How about rain and humidity sensors to close windows at the first sign of rain? There are auxillary inputs for CBus that will allow you to connect just about anything you like to add to the control of your house by other third party products. You can connect doorbells, PIR's, reed switches or microswitches on doors. Be notified remotely when someone rings the doorbell or enters your home. What you can do is limited only by your imagination... and the abilities of the sparkie/integrator. Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 15Jun 16, 2013 3:43 pm BrightSpark Light Control? Easy Temperature control? Depends on the system. Replacing a thermostat on the wall? Easy. Connecting directly to a split system on the wall? A bit more complicated and can rely on modifying internal circuits that WILL void a warranty. You can also buy CBus compatible heating and cooling prducts off the shelf. Curtains/ Blinds? Easy Ability to unlock door remotely? Easy Maybe open or close windows as well if possible we had our laundry room soaked because of how the window is and when it rains hard the wind pushes it into the window and down the wall. I'd love to be able to have it shut at first signs of rain. How about rain and humidity sensors to close windows at the first sign of rain? There are auxillary inputs for CBus that will allow you to connect just about anything you like to add to the control of your house by other third party products. You can connect doorbells, PIR's, reed switches or microswitches on doors. Be notified remotely when someone rings the doorbell or enters your home. What you can do is limited only by your imagination... and the abilities of the sparkie/integrator. Do you have a website for your business. Our build doesn't start until November however our builder advised that if we were looking to do things outside of the normal wiring it would be best to hire the person we wanted to use post handover to get the preliminary work out of the way. I had plans on contacting a few companies for information and i'd be happy to get you to quote in as well. You seem to understand what we want. Decorate your home. It gives the illusion that your life is more interesting than it really is. MY BUILD THREAD https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65479&p=1035832#p1035832 Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 16Jun 16, 2013 3:45 pm Picture this, you're at work and you get a call from one of your kids, they've lost their keys to the house. Using the wiser on your phone you access the camera at your front door to see your loved one standing at the front gate in the rain, you then remotely open the front gate, open the front door, turn off the alarm and turn on the heater before they are half way up the garden path This is exactly what I want to be able to do. My partner looses her keys daily and a few times so have I and its hell fire and damnation to get back down to the CBD from my current home to get some keys so I'd imagine trying to get from Ballarat to Melbourne would be worse. Especially in time for the kids. I cant see myself having my child stuck outside for the hour it would take me to get back from work. Decorate your home. It gives the illusion that your life is more interesting than it really is. MY BUILD THREAD https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65479&p=1035832#p1035832 Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 17Jun 16, 2013 3:49 pm What would something like this be cost wise. I had a look at the clipsal site and the bits and pieces are not as expensive as I initially thought. Also in terms of the heating and cooling. Do you have any suggestions as to which brands to buy thats something else we can provision for and have fitted after handover. Bear in mind it needs to be a strong system our house is close to 60 squares over 2 stories Decorate your home. It gives the illusion that your life is more interesting than it really is. MY BUILD THREAD https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65479&p=1035832#p1035832 Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 18Jul 17, 2013 10:07 pm C Bus is over priced. Just run cat 5 or 6 cable to everywhere automation is required: Light switches, Power points Blinds Windows Thermostats / sensors Doors Etc Micro controllers are cheap and the possibilities are limitless. Just run cable everywhere, decide if going to one central location or a couple in the house. 550m2 is massive. I'm not sure with the CBus if the relays are centralised or not. Good Luck Pulpo Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 19Aug 16, 2013 9:12 pm BellaButterfly Picture this, you're at work and you get a call from one of your kids, they've lost their keys to the house. Using the wiser on your phone you access the camera at your front door to see your loved one standing at the front gate in the rain, you then remotely open the front gate, open the front door, turn off the alarm and turn on the heater before they are half way up the garden path This is exactly what I want to be able to do. My partner looses her keys daily and a few times so have I and its hell fire and damnation to get back down to the CBD from my current home to get some keys so I'd imagine trying to get from Ballarat to Melbourne would be worse. Especially in time for the kids. I cant see myself having my child stuck outside for the hour it would take me to get back from work. I don't want to discourage you because everybody is different & what makes you happy is worth the money, but home automation with full systems like cbus is such a waste of money & complicated. Let me just explain the complicated part, if you want changes you have to reprogram things & it's not as easy as just changing one simple block of the program. Yes if your a person that likes to learn & understand then not such a pain but believe me even people that use it everyday make mistakes programming changes. Then there is parts becoming superseded & new versions not compatible I see it every day in building automation, there is never any guarantee a part will be available after a certain time frame. Your example above is a very complex & expensive exercise just to open a door if there is a lost key, to be blunt a simple lock with key pad entry solves that problem. You also find so many items you wish to automate in a home come supplied with cordless remote anyway & there are remote controls that can be programmed to replace many so you still have the one access point. I also read above the suggestion about using a plc, which is a much better option than cbus & your not locked into the one brand system & there are many software packages aval for simple display front ends for programming. I'm building a new home at the moment & have the luxury or having all the cbus gear needed to do everything even the kitchen sink but my home won't be having any of it installed. I prefer sensor touch dimmers which simply mount as a light switch, I use motion sensor with timer for outside lights. I hate motion sensor lights activated when you walk in rooms which is a common cbus practise because for example you have a bath & relax (not moving) & the light goes off, yes you can program to stay on say with a touch of wall switch but hell why not turn on wall switch in the first place. Home automation is so over rated & sells because people think it's flashy which it is but in the real world it does nothing you can't do in a much simpler way but that's just me being simple. Re: Can you Prewire for Clipsal CBus 20Aug 17, 2013 7:11 pm BellaButterfly This is exactly what I want to be able to do. My partner looses her keys daily and a few times so have I and its hell fire and damnation to get back down to the CBD from my current home to get some keys so I'd imagine trying to get from Ballarat to Melbourne would be worse. Especially in time for the kids. I cant see myself having my child stuck outside for the hour it would take me to get back from work. That's why I use a biometric lock for the front door; keypad and fingerprint. 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