Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jun 02, 2020 5:56 pm Hi, Going around to a few builders in the area getting idea of what to build etc; all there 'price lists' seem to not include the basics, what i've been told all of these are extra: 1)Site Costs 2)Cooling/Heating (Ducted and refrigerated) 3)Driveway 4) Landscaping (Front) 5) Fencing (around – Design requirements state wooden); If building on a side; does that mean you need to completely pay for one whole side? 6) Additional down-lights!? Can anyone give me an indication on what the above would cost per item (ROUGHLY) on a 14m wide; 32 deep block? Additionally; what are some 'extra's' that you really cant live without i've been told to 1) 'upgrade from the smeg applicances' 2) 'dont just go for the lamenix benchtops' 3) Higher ceilings!! 4) Make sure you get the slightly nicer carpet..... etc. It appears that some offer 'packages'; is it generally best to go for a 'package'? How much is a package worth!? Also; all the garages (double) are 5x6m, to do something like a 5.5x6m, how much extra would you be looking at? Roughly on a 29 square (incl garage) Looking at the Metricon Savannah 29 there 'paper' price is 292,500 its almost like im at 370k realistically already or am I over guessing? Also; how much do builders move on price, do you need to be a good negotiator? Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 2Jun 03, 2020 8:54 am Mintee Also; how much do builders move on price, do you need to be a good negotiator? On an average 20-30% up after you have paid a deposit for the preparation of plans As Displayed 50%-100% It's not as if you are buying the same fridge and screwing down the salesman Builders own copyright and their margins are tight... until you signup. Get your own design and shop the price around make sure you get some of the $20K building stimulus handout while it lasts Cheers Chris Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 3Jun 03, 2020 9:06 am StructuralBIMGuy Mintee Also; how much do builders move on price, do you need to be a good negotiator? On an average 20-30% up after you have paid a deposit for the preparation of plans As Displayed 50%-100% It's not as if you are buying the same fridge and screwing down the salesman Builders own copyright and their margins are tight... until you signup. Get your own design and shop the price around make sure you get some of the $20K building stimulus handout while it lasts Cheers Chris Sorry I didn't 100% follow. So you're saying if there's a list price of 290k. Expect 48k-77k on plans? I was under the impression that this was built into the price... Fml And Expect fittings / fixtures etc to be 145k-290k? In trying to calculate without the stimulus so I know if I can actually afford to build. When you say get your own design and shop around ? Do you mean like take metricons floor plan and give it to xyz? Or are you saying stay away from the big builders all together? Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 4Jun 03, 2020 9:10 am Exactly, Negotiation 101! Now homebuyers can design using AR, own the BIM, and builder just coordinates the construction. Actually there is no need for the 'builder' as we know them because sub contractors and consultants can do all the work scheduled with workflow software. Todays builders could morph into operators of display home villages, offering concierge and free coffee to new homebuyers for a small entry fee. Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 5Jun 03, 2020 9:33 am Mintee When you say get your own design and shop around ? Do you mean like take metricons floor plan and give it to xyz? Or are you saying stay away from the big builders all together? Own your own design, data and quantities as the builder owns copyright on their design If you copy the builders design and shop it around you will be sued for breach of their copyright Mintee In trying to calculate without the stimulus so I know if I can actually afford to build. If you know the costs of your design/build then pressure the builders to share some of his stimulus the money is better in your pocket and there would be plenty of desperate builders out there prepared to cut margins Goodluck Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 6Jun 03, 2020 11:11 am Welcome to the First Home Builder's club mate. Surprise Surprise !! nothing's included . The builders have margin on everything and what they provide you all depends on how tight they go on that. I was told an easy way to calculate pricing is 11K * size of house in squares, that's for an average house and nothing over the top. Anyways, you'll need to get quotes from a number if builders and compare. Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 7Jun 03, 2020 11:24 am KameGame Welcome to the First Home Builder's club mate. Surprise Surprise !! nothing's included . The builders have margin on everything and what they provide you all depends on how tight they go on that. I was told an easy way to calculate pricing is 11K * size of house in squares, that's for an average house and nothing over the top. Anyways, you'll need to get quotes from a number if builders and compare. Thanks for the prompt response and welcome; that 11k + sitecosts, landscaping, plans etc etc?. Is that incl or excl the garage. Im looking at 30 SQ double, so an estimate of 330k all up is accurate? my figures are showing more towards 370k at the moment everything done and dusted which is beginning to stretch a little too thin. Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 8Jun 03, 2020 11:54 am Mintee KameGame Welcome to the First Home Builder's club mate. Surprise Surprise !! nothing's included . The builders have margin on everything and what they provide you all depends on how tight they go on that. I was told an easy way to calculate pricing is 11K * size of house in squares, that's for an average house and nothing over the top. Anyways, you'll need to get quotes from a number if builders and compare. Thanks for the prompt response and welcome; that 11k + sitecosts, landscaping, plans etc etc?. Is that incl or excl the garage. Im looking at 30 SQ double, so an estimate of 330k all up is accurate? my figures are showing more towards 370k at the moment everything done and dusted which is beginning to stretch a little too thin. For a 30sq home, circa 330K including site costs and basic inclusions. Landscaping/ Fencing is always an extra. If you want to go over the top with colorbond roofs, upgrades for benchtops, flooring & fixtures it it will cost you more. Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 9Jun 03, 2020 12:33 pm Here are some quantity surveyor estimates of residential buildings builders' costs+profit per m2. Just add government / compliance costs + GST to get to a price.
Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 13Jun 03, 2020 1:27 pm D350mh My build worked out to be approx $1,580.000 per square meter. The above looks to be in the ball park So thats with no landscaping/fencing, but legit everything in the house done, site costs, plans etc etc? Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 15Jun 03, 2020 5:09 pm How does the tender process work? Can you get people you know to tender for work? I.e I know a sparky, can this reduce your cost. I dont want to take corners but if sparky A will charge me like 40k hypothetically, and sparky B will change me 37k for the same quality, and work, then im better off going for sparky B. Im assuming this process happens BEFORE contract signing and would incur some costs to get to this point? Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 17Jun 03, 2020 5:26 pm Mintee How does the tender process work? Can you get people you know to tender for work? I.e I know a sparky, can this reduce your cost. I dont want to take corners but if sparky A will charge me like 40k hypothetically, and sparky B will change me 37k for the same quality, and work, then im better off going for sparky B. Im assuming this process happens BEFORE contract signing and would incur some costs to get to this point? where are you looking to build? Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 19Jun 03, 2020 5:34 pm Mintee Fraser Rise - Most Likely Westwood Estate Find a building designer (not an architect) and design your own, then take it to a builder, if its a flat block you should be between $1300-$1550 per m2 (Sydney prices) Re: Building Costs - The 'price' realistic vs paper 20Jun 03, 2020 5:35 pm GrahamB Mintee Fraser Rise - Most Likely Westwood Estate Find a building designer (not an architect) and design your own, then take it to a builder, if its a flat block you should be between $1300-$1550 per m2 (Sydney prices) Ive been told a 350mm fall; i've been told this isn't 'crazy' or 'too bad' > 500mm is bad? When you say 'take it to a builder', like a local, non project builder? or do they build this too? Wow I hadn't realised things had gotten that pricey in just a couple of years since I built, that is crazy with how much land is now costing if you aren't lucky enough to… 3 5335 Hi, you've probably already resolved this, however, Commbank will probably pay the funds to you after you send evidence the work is done regardless the change in the quotes. 1 31767 Just to makea point about this, an approach that some people have found sucessful in negotiating these rises down, Is to provide some workings to the builder, specifying… 4 64661 |