Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Council substituting falsified documents for new build 3May 17, 2020 10:11 pm Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Council substituting falsified documents for new build 5May 18, 2020 12:44 am Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Council substituting falsified documents for new build 9May 18, 2020 7:20 pm Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Council substituting falsified documents for new build 11May 18, 2020 9:09 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using siphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost, siphonic, eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Council substituting falsified documents for new build 13May 19, 2020 4:27 am luxbuild So who employed the builder and how did they get these updated engineering documents to build from? Have you had someone come out and cost the remediation work for you? Isn't that your goal, to ultimately get the works complying with regulations? As already stated, the Council, in their role of 'Relevant Authority' took in falsified Engineering documents (not 'updated' Engineering documents as you call them ....that's neat spin applied by you ) for the Footings and sub structure from a private company ( A Building Surveying company - they even certified South Australia' s very expensive , $2.44 billion dollar Royal Adelaide Hospital, so they should know the importance of sound Structural Engineering and legal documentation ). This company does a lot of work for both Local Government (Councils) and State Government - they have even allegedly been involved with helping make the laws in State Government departments for Planning etc apparently....The Council have confirmed that they did not notify me (the land owner) when they did this. The Council did not deal with either the Applicant or the owner when they took these documents in. The Council Planning Department have acknowledged they took in these documents, calling them a 'minor' amendment (!!!) and also claiming that this company gave the Council an 'amended Development Authorisation'....which has never been produced - I doubt it exists. I don't know if anyone 'paid' the builder or 'employed' the builder to be involved in this back door deal....I don't know how 'the boys' organised this - they have not been forthcoming with their back door dealings or who paid who to do it....I was never told about it, nor was I ever sent a bill for the falsified Engineering documents....or their acceptance and application at the Council.....It seems sabotage of one's home construction is a free service provided by Local Government!. The construction has been described as a knock down job - Yes, it is that bad. It is not a matter for 'remedial works' as you describe. - I guess it is hard to pick up a house and apply a cement slab underneath part of it and put the house back on top whilst replacing incorrect posts, bearers and joists too...... I want my home built to the proper standards - preferably to the original approved Development Authorisation as required by the Development Act and the Development Regulations and Bushfire Regulations etc - however if that is not legally correct now - due to the Council refusing to grant an extension for the original Development Authorisation, with their Senior Planner telling me "You don't need one"...Then it may need to be built to updated required standards.....Whatever it takes to give me the safe home construction that I was supposed to get before the Council and their mates worked to destroy it. The Council are not supposed to be 'above the law' they should not be permitted to deal in falsified documentation - they are the 'Relevant Authority' here so they need to be held accountable, to be made to actually do their job properly and not act in such a way that they are risking lives in the community and creating unsafe illegal home construction and pay up, - of course they could sue those who they have worked with to carry out this whole sordid disgusting operation.....however, since they seem to have encouraged this in their role of 'Relevant Authority' that may be a challenge. Re: Council substituting falsified documents for new build 14May 19, 2020 4:37 am chippy Have you tried getting in touch with the media. ACA always like a local government failure story. It may be enough "noise" to get a politician interested in helping you. Thanks Chippy, I have tried that - the media here in South Australia seem to 'play the game' too - sadly. They report on useless trivial matters yet seem to ignore the serious ones when 'well connected' people are involved... A Journalist from our main newspaper told me they have their vested interests......ACA don't seem interested in South Australian stories - however, if you or anyone has a contact there and can encourage them to get involved, please let me know!! Thanks for your thoughts. I appreciate your imput. Re: Council substituting falsified documents for new build 16May 19, 2020 2:50 pm Clare Jay chippy luxbuild What does your builder say? Presumably they built to these amended plans? Who gave them the plans? There are so many questions. What happened to the architect? Were they overseeing the job? Why wasn't the builder using the original approved plans that the architect was given by the council? The whole story is a little hard to follow. What is or was the council's motivation to supply amended plans that would not be compliant, or if you built as per the approved plans then why isn't it compliant??? It's a pretty serious accusation. The Architect took everything up to finished Development Authorisation and then got building quotes but was not overseeing the job. This is the part that I can't understand. If the Architect as the applicant got the original approved DA and it was as per his original plans (hence was happy to go to quotes), then they have used those plans to get quotes from the builders, all of them (including the chosen builder) would of had the correct set of approved plans. How did the chosen builder in between quoting on the correct plans and building the house get a different set of plans? If the architect arranged the builder for you, then the builder was ultimately under your employ. How did they come to have this alternate set of plans. Why didn't you become aware that they were not going to build as per what they had quoted on? I'm not criticising, but it's a little hard to follow. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Council substituting falsified documents for new build 17Feb 24, 2021 12:19 am Clare Jay luxbuild So who employed the builder and how did they get these updated engineering documents to build from? Have you had someone come out and cost the remediation work for you? Isn't that your goal, to ultimately get the works complying with regulations? As already stated, the Council, in their role of 'Relevant Authority' took in falsified Engineering documents (not 'updated' Engineering documents as you call them ....that's neat spin applied by you ) for the Footings and sub structure from a private company ( A Building Surveying company - they even certified South Australia' s very expensive , $2.44 billion dollar Royal Adelaide Hospital, so they should know the importance of sound Structural Engineering and legal documentation ). This company does a lot of work for both Local Government (Councils) and State Government - they have even allegedly been involved with helping make the laws in State Government departments for Planning etc apparently....The Council have confirmed that they did not notify me (the land owner) when they did this. The Council did not deal with either the Applicant or the owner when they took these documents in. The Council Planning Department have acknowledged they took in these documents, calling them a 'minor' amendment (!!!) and also claiming that this company gave the Council an 'amended Development Authorisation'....which has never been produced - I doubt it exists. I don't know if anyone 'paid' the builder or 'employed' the builder to be involved in this back door deal....I don't know how 'the boys' organised this - they have not been forthcoming with their back door dealings or who paid who to do it....I was never told about it, nor was I ever sent a bill for the falsified Engineering documents....or their acceptance and application at the Council.....It seems sabotage of one's home construction is a free service provided by Local Government!. The construction has been described as a knock down job - Yes, it is that bad. It is not a matter for 'remedial works' as you describe. - I guess it is hard to pick up a house and apply a cement slab underneath part of it and put the house back on top whilst replacing incorrect posts, bearers and joists too...... I want my home built to the proper standards - preferably to the original approved Development Authorisation as required by the Development Act and the Development Regulations and Bushfire Regulations etc - however if that is not legally correct now - due to the Council refusing to grant an extension for the original Development Authorisation, with their Senior Planner telling me "You don't need one"...Then it may need to be built to updated required standards.....Whatever it takes to give me the safe home construction that I was supposed to get before the Council and their mates worked to destroy it. The Council are not supposed to be 'above the law' they should not be permitted to deal in falsified documentation - they are the 'Relevant Authority' here so they need to be held accountable, to be made to actually do their job properly and not act in such a way that they are risking lives in the community and creating unsafe illegal home construction and pay up, - of course they could sue those who they have worked with to carry out this whole sordid disgusting operation.....however, since they seem to have encouraged this in their role of 'Relevant Authority' that may be a challenge. What ended up happening with this? Re: Council substituting falsified documents for new build 18Feb 24, 2021 12:36 pm after reading all of this, i still don't understand the motivation of any party mentioned to do what's been described here. This all seems like it would have taken more effort to do than just work to the agreed original and approved plans. Dark matter scientist, can breathe underwater, mind reader and can freeze matter just by willing it. Trust me, its in my sig. Re: Council substituting falsified documents for new build 19Feb 24, 2021 12:51 pm I think the poster posted in the wrong forum, This is a building forum etc, I think they were looking for advice on a movie script that they had written and the above was the plot and story line.! I could be wrong Thanks again for this information. If you do hear anything different, would be great to know 4 30621 3 18287 I'm a newbie. Wondering if anyone can give me some advice re: what to do, who to engage, costs, challenges, time required to pursue building a duplex on my property that… 0 8628 |