Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Brick on first floor of double storey 2May 11, 2020 11:02 am It also depends on design as a straight wall can be done,but if second storey is off set,the weight of bricks is easier finished by choosing a lighter cladding and lots more cost effective. Re: Brick on first floor of double storey 5May 11, 2020 4:57 pm Bloom20 I am looking for a builder but seems very difficult to find an all brick house. The design will be a potential issue. If you don;t have a design that is basically a cue, then you're talking about hue amounts of steel to support upper storey brick cladding for the walls. Its doable, but its just not a common/preferred methods these days. People want huge open areas in their homes and huge steel beams with posts every couple of meters to support them doesn't allow that in the lower storey. Do you have a plan already or are you looking for designs now? Re: Brick on first floor of double storey 7May 11, 2020 5:23 pm Bloom20 We are looking for a builder. We built with 8Homes before and it is the only reason we go with them, a full brick house but now they also changed to crappy rendered foam. You. An always ask for it to be quoted as you like (i.e brick) There are many other factors that it impacts too, not the least being thermal performance. I agree about the "crappy" part only because I don't like the aesthetic of but, but it is a great performer in thermal resistance. Re: Brick on first floor of double storey 8May 11, 2020 5:26 pm Bloom20 We are looking for a builder. We built with 8Homes before and it is the only reason we go with them, a full brick house but now they also changed to crappy rendered foam. Re: Brick on first floor of double storey 9May 11, 2020 5:37 pm CF Design Bloom20 We are looking for a builder. We built with 8Homes before and it is the only reason we go with them, a full brick house but now they also changed to crappy rendered foam. You. An always ask for it to be quoted as you like (i.e brick) There are many other factors that it impacts too, not the least being thermal performance. I agree about the "crappy" part only because I don't like the aesthetic of but, but it is a great performer in thermal resistance. With zero thermal mass it is hard to imply that rendered foam house will be performing nearly as good as insulated double brick when it gets to thermal comfort. In addition, it the main concern remains thermal performance, it needs to be complemented with thermally broken double glazed windows, well insulated floor and roof. I wouldn't like foam VOC getting into my house too and would like to have walls that "breath" ie vapour permeable. Most of the foam houses I saw so far have barely "healthy" climate inside (as long as they are well sealed) and require ERV or HRV ventilation systems in order to perform. Re: Brick on first floor of double storey 10May 11, 2020 5:41 pm alexp79 CF Design Bloom20 We are looking for a builder. We built with 8Homes before and it is the only reason we go with them, a full brick house but now they also changed to crappy rendered foam. You. An always ask for it to be quoted as you like (i.e brick) There are many other factors that it impacts too, not the least being thermal performance. I agree about the "crappy" part only because I don't like the aesthetic of but, but it is a great performer in thermal resistance. With zero thermal mass it is hard to imply that rendered foam house will be performing nearly as good as insulated double brick when it gets to thermal comfort. In addition, it the main concern remains thermal performance, it needs to be complemented with thermally broken double glazed windows, well insulated floor and roof. I wouldn't like foam VOC getting into my house too and would like to have walls that "breath" ie vapour permeable. Most of the foam houses I saw so far have barely "healthy" climate inside (as long as they are well sealed) and require ERV or HRV ventilation systems in order to perform. I have seen, a couple of houses not even 5 years old with cracks already and moulds are starting to penetrate the cracks. If we can't find a double storey brick house we might go with single storey instead. Re: Brick on first floor of double storey 11May 11, 2020 6:31 pm Any material in isolation can be criticized and denounced. Poor climatic performance isn't the fault of a material, but usually the lack of appropriately designed and specified systems bro bridge the gap/shortfall of the selected materials. But we're getting way off topic here Re: Brick on first floor of double storey 12May 11, 2020 6:35 pm Ultimately, your best option to get a well rounded result is engage a designer first then take the design to tender. I recommend looking up your States local Association and getting fee proposals. If you're in Victoria look up BDAV (now called Design Matters) and cross check that you're selected Designers are VBA registered practitioners Re: Brick on first floor of double storey 13May 11, 2020 6:56 pm I'm with CF on this one. I wouldn't want a high thermal mass material, like brick, on my to storey. Actually, I don't think brick anywhere, unprotected from the sun. Backing in the sun all day long in summer, then radiating that heat in the evening, making the insulation work harder. But as hot air rises, much worse on the top storey. Up there, is want a low thermal mass cladding, well insulated from the interior of the home. Re: Brick on first floor of double storey 14May 11, 2020 7:12 pm In general, well insulated and sealed house with decent thermal mass has 10-12 hours of thermal leg. If diurnal temperature range is at least 10 degrees, daily temperature variation inside such house will be only 2-3 degrees. Keep in mind that internal leaf will be cooling down the house for the temperature equilibrium. That means for effective cooling, you might only need to turn on aircon upstairs for 15-30 mins in the evening on very hot days when night temperature was not dropping low enough. Having said that, most of the heat into the house will still be delivered through the glazing, roof and floors, not through the brick. On the other side, double brick will be definitely more superior when it gets to sound insulation and fire protection properties in comparison to foam cladding on timber frame, not to mention hurricane protection, etc. - foam can be easily penetrated with debris. Re: Brick on first floor of double storey 16May 14, 2020 12:56 pm I would partially agree here, mainly due to the fact the main performer (or under-performer) will still be a glass itself as it is covering the biggest area and minor differences in frame performance can be treated with just getting better glazing (unless we are getting into premium ranges of composited frames or triple glazing with high performing glass). But having said that, on average thermally broken frames will still perform better than non-broken one. I understand that you have invested a lot of money and time into perfecting your non-broken frames, however, best performing frames will still be thermally broken (and most of them won't be made of aluminium or aluminium only). The third aspect will be the quality and nuances of installation, as even the best of windows in the world can be spoilt by poor installation. 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