Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 4Apr 28, 2020 7:53 pm They are fobbing you off to make life easier. It is pretty standard for a custom build, not sure about a display home. We just did it by ripping the 240mm lvls to 220mm under the bathroom. If using posistruts you could pack each one with 35mm pine on the flat. Ask to explain why is is not a good practice? that seems a bit dishonest of them to argue that Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 5Apr 28, 2020 10:59 pm Brett0004 Have you requested the change after all contacts and plans signed off?? I have requested this change before we sign off on any of the plans, so I do not think they have an excuse to not do it for us just because its inconvenient. I am not the builder and lack technical experience to argue with them that it affects house structure stability. However, since most other builders do it without a problem makes me think the should be good way to do it safely. The reason that they gave us is that recessing floor into the timber makes floor not as stable and house can wobble and break tiles? Maybe sales person is not the best person to discuss it with? Should we bring it up again when we are at the tender approval stage? Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 7Apr 29, 2020 11:41 am alexp79 I guess the main reason was to make sure your bedroom is not immediately flooded if you have a leak. I dont think that would have an effect, would it? Bathroom floor ends up higher then bedroom floor, not lower. Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 8Apr 29, 2020 11:44 am camomiles alexp79 I guess the main reason was to make sure your bedroom is not immediately flooded if you have a leak. I dont think that would have an effect, would it? Bathroom floor ends up higher then bedroom floor, not lower. Sorry, I am confused a bit - do you want them to have bathroom floor to be lower or flush with the carpet? If later, then you might have issues with flooding and would certainly need a waste. You really can't have bathroom floor higher than bedroom. Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 9Apr 29, 2020 9:13 pm alexp79 camomiles alexp79 I guess the main reason was to make sure your bedroom is not immediately flooded if you have a leak. I dont think that would have an effect, would it? Bathroom floor ends up higher then bedroom floor, not lower. Sorry, I am confused a bit - do you want them to have bathroom floor to be lower or flush with the carpet? If later, then you might have issues with flooding and would certainly need a waste. You really can't have bathroom floor higher than bedroom. Sorry, I think I was not clear enough. By default in clarendon homes all bathroom floors on the upper floor are higher then bedroom / other rooms. Which creates a step like this on the bathroom enterance: Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Tiles are around 100mm higher than carpet in this case. What I am trying to get them to do is lay tiles to be flush with the floor, like picture in my first post. Their argument is that it is not a safe building practice, and that it will make whole second floor move. I havent gotten more detailed explanation from them yet, they are just trying to brush it off with things like "You are not even gonna notice it." All bathrooms have floor wastes so flooding is not an issue. If anyone can provide me with some more technical information to bring them as argument to make them do it - it would be awesome. Personally I don't understand how it works exactly so its hard for me to argue with them. If you have experience with project home builders, would you say its better to press them on those issue before signing the tender? Or right at the quote stage? My last resort would be to approach tradies on site when constructions starts and pay them extra money to fix it, but I would not know which tradies to talk to even. TIlers? Or maybe people who set up house frame? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 11Apr 29, 2020 11:46 pm edskii This can be done .... just pay around $2800-3000 at your colour selection appointment. We did this for downstairs but didnt see a need for upstairs Did you use clarendon or other project builder? Is it extra when we select tiles? Thanks for your help! Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 13Apr 29, 2020 11:57 pm edskii Clarendon, it'd be part of your internal/external upgrades when you do your color appointment Thats a great help! Thank you very much! Did you build in QLD or NSW? For some reason our sales rep says that it cannot be done. My only concern then would be that color selection is done after all contracts have been signed. Thanks again! Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 15Apr 30, 2020 12:51 am I see. Unfortunately, flooding is still and issue as having a drain is never a panacea. Ideally, wet area floors should be 4-5 cm lower not higher, so the tiler would create an incline with tiles towards the waste and flush tiles near entrance with your main floor. Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 16May 01, 2020 9:38 am The reason Clarendon will not want to do this is because due to them using Metal frames n Bearers it very hard to do changes as they are all made off site. With timber frames n bearers its easier to do on site and achieve the changes required thats why some builders say its easy due to them using timber frames. To make it easy the way Clarendon build would be to raise the rest of the floors rather than try to lower Bathroom Floors by 30mm Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 17May 01, 2020 9:40 am Splashers The reason Clarendon will not want to do this is because due to them using Metal frames n Bearers it very hard to do changes as they are all made off site. With timber frames n bearers its easier to do on site and achieve the changes required thats why some builders say its easy due to them using timber frames. To make it easy the way Clarendon build would be to raise the rest of the floors rather than try to lower Bathroom Floors by 30mm I asked them to do a quote for raising the floor up instead, and they told me that it would be very very expensive. Didn't really give a number tho. Do you have experience doing that with clarendon? Thanks! Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 18May 01, 2020 2:59 pm If the carpet is lower than the tile, use a very simple and common wedge to ramp up the transition. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ They are made specifically to fix this kind of problem when changing carpet in a home and going to a lower pile. FYI, it should not cost you more than $100 per doorway and even that is overcharging Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 19May 01, 2020 3:23 pm CF Design If the carpet is lower than the tile, use a very simple and common wedge to ramp up the transition. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ They are made specifically to fix this kind of problem when changing carpet in a home and going to a lower pile. FYI, it should not cost you more than $100 per doorway and even that is overcharging Thats an awesome solution, thank you for that! If I fail to get clarendon to recess the floor, I will put those under that carpet instead. Did you have them installed at your house? Is it noticable? Thanks again! Re: Recessed bathroom floors on the upper level 20May 01, 2020 4:58 pm Honestly, it probably an easier and better finish in the end just to do this. Trying to convince the builder how to build won't end well. Their reasoning isn't perfect and as mentioned above, any spec/custom builders would do it, and should do it as a matter of getting it perfect, but that also require ms you to have specified tiles and carpet already camomiles Did you have them installed at your house? Is it noticable? No, I have seen them used when I managed a home improvement/renovations install operation. Probably 1/4-1/5 jobs used them However, they're not very noticeable at all. I have seen them used for carpet, vinyl sheet and plank style laminate/vinyl. As with anything, the more traffic the area see, the more likely you are to notice them. 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