Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Apr 27, 2020 12:04 pm Hello all, Building for the first time, just received building permit for a home I'm building in Melbourne's western suburbs. Site start expected next week, however as the land has been vacant for almost a year the inevitable rubbish dump has happened on my lot. There are a few blobs of dried up concrete dumped on my land (in 2 spots), any advice on how to best remove them while incurring the least expense? The grass needs trimming too, something which I can easily do on my own with a cutter but no idea how to go about removing the concrete. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Thanks in advance, any advice greatly appreciated. Re: Site Clean before Construction Start 8Apr 27, 2020 7:34 pm Joker If u have a trailor ,you could go to tip yourself with concrete,would be considerably cheaper than 300-400. The previous posts were pretty useless and not helpful at all. Have just looked into this more and looks like a jackhammer can do the trick, the previous poster is saying to use an excavator and pay another $400 for tipping. I'd rather bring my own wheelbarrow and dispose of them myself. Thanks for nothing Re: Site Clean before Construction Start 9Apr 27, 2020 7:49 pm icebear Joker If u have a trailor ,you could go to tip yourself with concrete,would be considerably cheaper than 300-400. The previous posts were pretty useless and not helpful at all. Have just looked into this more and looks like a jackhammer can do the trick, the previous poster is saying to use an excavator and pay another $400 for tipping. I'd rather bring my own wheelbarrow and dispose of them myself. Thanks for nothing Re: Site Clean before Construction Start 10Apr 27, 2020 8:06 pm I'm not sure how it works over East but in WA the builders always do a site clean which involves removing all the debris from site. It's already incorporated as part of the site works and regardless of whether you get rid of items like that prior to them coming they still charge you to clean up the site. They have to cut the site to remove any organic material so I doubt you will save yourself anything by cleaning it up. If you want to do it, then Joker has given you the correct information. A quick hit with a sledgehammer will normally break that concrete into manageable sizes that you can chuck in a trailer and take to the local tip. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Site Clean before Construction Start 11Apr 27, 2020 8:18 pm Thanks very much chippy (and Joker) that was a lot more helpful!! Unfortunately it's in the contract that all debris needs to be removed by the owner before the builder starts. Will that heap be a bit harder to get rid of given its thicker and irregular size? So from what I'm seeing online, whats needs to be done is: 1. Shovel the soil below as much as possible to create a void beneath the concrete before hitting it 2. Whack it repeatedly until it breaks up into chunks 3. Use a crowbar tool to pry off. Let me know if this is right Re: Site Clean before Construction Start 12Apr 27, 2020 8:25 pm That sounds about right. We normally just hit it, but digging a void under it will help. If you get a shovel under one edge and lever it up and swing it around a little is often enough. 2 guys (or one strong guy) and an hour will see it done. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Site Clean before Construction Start 13Apr 27, 2020 8:35 pm icebear Thanks very much chippy (and Joker) that was a lot more helpful!! Unfortunately it's in the contract that all debris needs to be removed by the owner before the builder starts. Will that heap be a bit harder to get rid of given its thicker and irregular size? So from what I'm seeing online, whats needs to be done is: 1. Shovel the soil below as much as possible to create a void beneath the concrete before hitting it 2. Whack it repeatedly until it breaks up into chunks 3. Use a crowbar tool to pry off. Let me know if this is right Re: Site Clean before Construction Start 15Apr 28, 2020 11:38 am Despite what is formally written in the contract, have you asked your builder/project manager if these particular lumps will be an issue? No need to worry about something the builder might be easily prepared to take care of in the normal course of site prep. Re: Site Clean before Construction Start 16Apr 28, 2020 11:53 am From the picture looks like it's minor, talk to your builder/site supervisor and they might just clean it for you. I had much more than small concrete lumps dumped on my land and had to hire an excavator & tipper from Airtasker. The excavator will charge for his work and extra for tipping. If you're excavating yourself and it's not much of a load then someone can remove it for as less as 150-200, again you may have to post it on Airtasker. Re: Site Clean before Construction Start 17Apr 28, 2020 10:27 pm Varsity Despite what is formally written in the contract, have you asked your builder/project manager if these particular lumps will be an issue? No need to worry about something the builder might be easily prepared to take care of in the normal course of site prep. Ah you have no idea... with builders, you have zero chance of winning an argument. They will twist and turn their words and it will always be the client who is wrong no matter what, even if anything is their fault they'll try to pin it on you. I'm not saying it's their fault in this case (because it wasn't), but that was my experience. They insisted for me to have the lumps cleared before they start. I tried to reason and put it to them.. look, is it possible that this could all be done anyway when you guys start out on site because the first thing you'll be doing is excavating and removing rock? It makes no sense to me whasoever that if they will be removing huge rocks on the entire block, they couldn't remove a few patches of cement at the same time. When i said this, they replied that I was "trying to get them to do it for free". Then she goes on to say that "their trades are getting paid to do the work they've been scheduled to do , not remove patches of concrete." I never tried to "get them to do it for free". I just said that i felt like it was unnecessary for me to spend the money to do something which looks like is just business as usual for them, i didn't thinkthey would be incurring any extra costs over and above what they had to do anyway. I don't think I'm wrong to assume that, it's not like the land was filled with rubbish from front to back. Wtf, right? Builders. Re: Site Clean before Construction Start 18Apr 28, 2020 10:30 pm KameGame From the picture looks like it's minor, talk to your builder/site supervisor and they might just clean it for you. I had much more than small concrete lumps dumped on my land and had to hire an excavator & tipper from Airtasker. The excavator will charge for his work and extra for tipping. If you're excavating yourself and it's not much of a load then someone can remove it for as less as 150-200, again you may have to post it on Airtasker. see response above, trust me, i've tried. trying to reason and compromise with a builder is just mentally draining, i just want to get this over with. haha i did that yesterday just to test the water, some idiot with no reviews and a new account that was a week old made an offer for $1000. i regret not telling him to bugger off. Re: Site Clean before Construction Start 19Apr 28, 2020 10:42 pm icebear see response above, trust me, i've tried. trying to reason and compromise with a builder is just mentally draining, i just want to get this over with. haha i did that yesterday just to test the water, some idiot with no reviews and a new account that was a week old made an offer for $1000. i regret not telling him to bugger off. Sent you a reference. Try your luck because its not being managed properly. Also "properly" is too broad and too subjective a term to be able to pinpoint a single event as not being managed properly.… 1 2729 I’m curious about how you went with this. We are planning a KDRB and considering Plantation Homes as a builder. I’m aware that after the demolition another soil test… 1 6311 Thanks for info, yes met with Power Utility, Builder's Site Supervisor and Electrician on site and aligned on the mains connection. Seems like the builder and Electrician… 2 9999 |