Browse Forums Building A New House 1 May 07, 2019 8:29 am Hi, Does anyone know any designs that will fit the following specs Land 9m wide lot Zero lot 35m depth Located in Sydney northwest House design Single storey 4 beds Master bedroom at rear of house Budget 250k~10% I had a look online and there aren't many designs. If anyone has built with those specs above, please share your experience No preference of builder Thanks Derek Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 2May 07, 2019 8:56 am I don't recall ever having come across a single-storey as narrow as that. Because you'll be pushing the limit of what's allowed on the land, I think you'll struggle to find a project builder with a design that suits. "Zero lot" means all the way to the fencelines doesn't it … do you have to line your walls up with the neighbour's ones? Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 3May 07, 2019 10:25 am Forg I don't recall ever having come across a single-storey as narrow as that. Because you'll be pushing the limit of what's allowed on the land, I think you'll struggle to find a project builder with a design that suits. "Zero lot" means all the way to the fencelines doesn't it … do you have to line your walls up with the neighbour's ones? The zero lot means it can be built along the fences uptown 16m from the start of the lot The zero lot side will be on the LHS, where the garage is, this will be along the non garage side of the neighbour. Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 4May 07, 2019 12:27 pm What is your available plot ratio? Your block is only 315m² so depending on what percentage you can build on you are going to struggle to build a 4x2 on that size. I assume you will only have a single garage. We've just finished our house (4x2 on a 10m block) but the block is 43m long so had a total of 430m². Or build ratio was meant to be 55% of plot and we went slightly over with double garage. We had zero lot on both sides to maximize the block. The biggest problem with long thin houses is you basically need a passageway right through the house and it has the potential to waste a lot of space unless you get creative. There are a number of builders in WA who build narrow lot. We designed and built our own, but you could have a look at a few designs to see if any suit. Most will be 3 bedroom. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 5May 07, 2019 1:07 pm chippy What is your available plot ratio? Your block is only 315m² so depending on what percentage you can build on you are going to struggle to build a 4x2 on that size. I assume you will only have a single garage. We've just finished our house (4x2 on a 10m block) but the block is 43m long so had a total of 430m². Or build ratio was meant to be 55% of plot and we went slightly over with double garage. We had zero lot on both sides to maximize the block. The biggest problem with long thin houses is you basically need a passageway right through the house and it has the potential to waste a lot of space unless you get creative. There are a number of builders in WA who build narrow lot. We designed and built our own, but you could have a look at a few designs to see if any suit. Most will be 3 bedroom. Hi chippy The land can only fit 1 garage House requirements would be 4 bedroom (apart from master bedroom can be 3x2.7 1 garage 2.5 bathroom (ensuite, bathroom and separate toilet) As Im not familiar with WA builders, do you mind listing some Thanks Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 6May 07, 2019 1:47 pm Do you have a required open space percentage on the block? Only reason I ask is if you need say 55% open space as our zoning required, you will be left with 173m² build size. If you take out 18m² for the garage your down to 155. As I mentioned with long thin houses it's very easy to end up with a passage way running through the length of the house which can easily use up another 20m² (1m wide by 20 long) and that would be tight. So effectively you end up trying to build a 4x2 of about 135m². It will be a tight build. How many living areas do you want? Can you build zero lot on both sides for some of the block? The design will have to make use of every square metre to not seem squashed. That's one reason we ended up doing our own design. All the project builders plans (even the custom designs) just didn't work and wasted space. I'll try and find the builders for you to look at. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 7May 07, 2019 2:14 pm chippy Do you have a required open space percentage on the block? Only reason I ask is if you need say 55% open space as our zoning required, you will be left with 173m² build size. If you take out 18m² for the garage your down to 155. As I mentioned with long thin houses it's very easy to end up with a passage way running through the length of the house which can easily use up another 20m² (1m wide by 20 long) and that would be tight. So effectively you end up trying to build a 4x2 of about 135m². It will be a tight build. How many living areas do you want? Can you build zero lot on both sides for some of the block? The design will have to make use of every square metre to not seem squashed. That's one reason we ended up doing our own design. All the project builders plans (even the custom designs) just didn't work and wasted space. I'll try and find the builders for you to look at. Site coverage is 60% of total land 1 living area and 1 dining area Zero lot on 1 side only Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 8May 07, 2019 6:02 pm Okay, you can design and build a nice looking 3 bedroom apartment with a small alfresco and a single garage or a car space, as long as you want to stay on a single level. Go for the custom design, better with qualified architect. It is always better to have less but bigger bedrooms instead of many but smallish ones. Design the house the way you can add up a floor later with minimum investment (and this is why you would better pay extra $20K to a good architect and structural engineer at the early design stage). Costwise, $300-350K depending on the level of finishes, I would say, as access will be limited due to the narrow block. Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 9May 07, 2019 7:22 pm [quote="1800":1vlfz1o8][quote="chippy":1vlfz1o8]Do you have a required open space percentage on the block? Only reason I ask is if you need say 55% open space as our zoning required, you will be left with 173m² build size. If you take out 18m² for the garage your down to 155. As I mentioned with long thin houses it's very easy to end up with a passage way running through the length of the house which can easily use up another 20m² (1m wide by 20 long) and that would be tight. So effectively you end up trying to build a 4x2 of about 135m². It will be a tight build. How many living areas do you want? Can you build zero lot on both sides for some of the block? The design will have to make use of every square metre to not seem squashed. That's one reason we ended up doing our own design. All the project builders plans (even the custom designs) just didn't work and wasted space. I'll try and find the builders for you to look at.[/quote:1vlfz1o8] Site coverage is 60% of total land 1 living area and 1 dining area Zero lot on 1 side only[/quote:1vlfz1o8] Hi 1800 It can definitely be done, but will take some skillful design to make it work. Here's a design provided to us when we first started looking around. It's for a 10m wide block but it gives you an idea of what you can fit. I've got some others if you're interested. You'll note the passage way running through the house. That was the one thing we didn't want and was the reason we opted for our own custom design. It is just a huge waste of precious space. If you want the master at the very back of the house the passage way has to extend all the way. That's a lot of wasted space. We got around it by incorporating the "passageway" into living areas and had the living areas in the centre of the house with a central courtyard and alfresco. This enabled us to get light into the centre of the house and balance the open space. [img:1vlfz1o8]https://forum.homeone.com.au/u/22605_1557217238.png[/img:1vlfz1o8] Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 10May 07, 2019 8:03 pm Hi 1800, check out Rawson Homes design. My brother is building with Rawson and his frontage is 10m... so one car garage https://www.rawsonhomes.com.au/home-designs/acton Build Thread : viewtopic.php?=31&t=81624 Landscape Thread : viewtopic.php?f=19&t=86133 Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 11May 07, 2019 9:59 pm Hi Fowler homes has a few narrow homes and they also do custom builds. Have a look at these however they are double storey homes. https://www.fowlerhomes.com.au/hype_design/serenity/ https://www.fowlerhomes.com.au/hype_design/daydream/ https://www.fowlerhomes.com.au/hype_design/lennox/ If you only want a single storey then a good idea would be to browse on realestate.com.au and search the suburb Austral in NSW. There are quite a few house and land packages with an approx 250-350sqm block that are selling at the moment and you can view their floorplans. If any of them suit your block you could then contact the builder? Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 12May 10, 2019 6:22 pm chippy [quote="1800":1vlfz1o8][quote="chippy":1vlfz1o8]Do you have a required open space percentage on the block? Only reason I ask is if you need say 55% open space as our zoning required, you will be left with 173m² build size. If you take out 18m² for the garage your down to 155. As I mentioned with long thin houses it's very easy to end up with a passage way running through the length of the house which can easily use up another 20m² (1m wide by 20 long) and that would be tight. So effectively you end up trying to build a 4x2 of about 135m². It will be a tight build. How many living areas do you want? Can you build zero lot on both sides for some of the block? The design will have to make use of every square metre to not seem squashed. That's one reason we ended up doing our own design. All the project builders plans (even the custom designs) just didn't work and wasted space. I'll try and find the builders for you to look at.[/quote:1vlfz1o8] Site coverage is 60% of total land 1 living area and 1 dining area Zero lot on 1 side only[/quote:1vlfz1o8] Hi 1800 It can definitely be done, but will take some skillful design to make it work. Here's a design provided to us when we first started looking around. It's for a 10m wide block but it gives you an idea of what you can fit. I've got some others if you're interested. You'll note the passage way running through the house. That was the one thing we didn't want and was the reason we opted for our own custom design. It is just a huge waste of precious space. If you want the master at the very back of the house the passage way has to extend all the way. That's a lot of wasted space. We got around it by incorporating the "passageway" into living areas and had the living areas in the centre of the house with a central courtyard and alfresco. This enabled us to get light into the centre of the house and balance the open space. [img:1vlfz1o8]https://forum.homeone.com.au/u/22605_1557217238.png[/img:1vlfz1o8][/quote] That's a really cool design, alfresco in middle. Just wondering how much it cost for the base of that without upgrades Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 13May 10, 2019 6:23 pm Lemans Hi Fowler homes has a few narrow homes and they also do custom builds. Have a look at these however they are double storey homes. https://www.fowlerhomes.com.au/hype_design/serenity/ https://www.fowlerhomes.com.au/hype_design/daydream/ https://www.fowlerhomes.com.au/hype_design/lennox/ If you only want a single storey then a good idea would be to browse on realestate.com.au and search the suburb Austral in NSW. There are quite a few house and land packages with an approx 250-350sqm block that are selling at the moment and you can view their floorplans. If any of them suit your block you could then contact the builder? Thanks for the idea of checking out Austral they have a few narrow lot designs there Now's it all decision decision decision Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 14May 12, 2019 7:08 pm Tullipan have a couple if narrow designs on their site. They will custom design one for your block. https://www.tullipanhomes.com.au/home-d ... Home-Sites Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 15Jul 30, 2019 6:18 pm Why not engage a designer? You will also need a contour and feature survey to locate any easements and the sewer and establish the contours. Write up a brief and get the house individually designed - its always the best outcome. Re: Home design 9m wide northwest SYD NSW 16Aug 02, 2019 4:01 pm Hi 1800 We have designed similar single storey houses to suit 9mx28m & 30m lots previously for builders. Some were designed to suit even smaller blocks of land as developers in the North West and South West growth centre precinct are offering land size in the ranges of 225-270sqm, so 315sqm deep is actually quite workable. Please do not hesitate to get in touch and we can help custom tailor a design specifically to suit your site and your needs. R.Koncept Architectural Design & Drafting Affiliate of the Building Designers Association Australia www.rkoncept.com.au Custom Home Designs | Additions & Alterations | Dual Occupancy Specialist Landscape Design Parramatta We have been doing a large amount of landscape design work in Sydney… 0 3 Hi, Seeking volume or semi-custom builder in victoria(east), which have existing double story wide floor plans. Seeking 18-20m wide homes with depth of 12-15m long. Or… 0 18316 |