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Feel silly-unable to put the picture like others Anyway, as seen in the photo, there is a long gap about 110mm between the side of the internal stair and the frames. if it is 10mm, I would think the gypoc would block it, but this 110mm is too much. There is another 70mm gaps in another place I would think either the frames too small or the foundation too big. Is there a standard of the acceptable error? Re: Are these gaps- between the frame & slab) reasonable? 3Jan 31, 2015 12:34 pm mgilla Ask your builder first, there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation. They always can find excuse! Like last time, they charged us extra on sewer, as they forgot some facts at the design stage They also mistakenly recognized our soil type If we did not notice, we could have got wrong soil treatment So watch out and learn is still necessary Re: Are these gaps- between the frame & slab) reasonable? 4Jan 31, 2015 5:11 pm Go down to the IMG link and click on the line... Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The concreter is a little short with the stairs but he still would have had to allow a gap of 20mm or so anyway. The framers should have simply brought the timber frame closer to the stairs. Is it a consistent gap all the way up ? Stewie Re: Are these gaps- between the frame & slab) reasonable? 5Feb 02, 2015 7:46 am Thanks Stewie, yes, it is a consistent gap Another gap is 7cm wide, on the side of garage , I measured and find the garage frame is about 4cm shorter, is it reasonable, given the whole garage is 5.5m long? or just to put an extra wood stick outside of the existing frame? Re: Are these gaps- between the frame & slab) reasonable? 6Feb 02, 2015 8:23 am It sounds like either the framers or more likely the concreter has stuffed up their measurements. You should be able to check from the dimensions on your plans. What are you having to cover your stair treads? If you are having timber , they would be able to extend the treads and risers out to the walls. If carpet or tiles , you are out of luck and I'll be interested to see how the builder fixes this. Stewie Re: Are these gaps- between the frame & slab) reasonable? 7Feb 02, 2015 9:01 am Framers would be reluctant to change set out measurements to suit the slab because it will cause problems with setout of roof framing or trusses. Cutting back slab is not an option because more than likely reinforcing steel will become exposed. Sensible option would be to build out wall but then it will make your eave lining inconsistent or if there is no eave lining it will miss fascia altogether. It seems there are no pretty solutions here. Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Are these gaps- between the frame & slab) reasonable? 8Feb 02, 2015 11:43 am Thank Stewie and Building expert the stairs are suppose to be tiled-so as stewie said, not easy to fix as to the garage problem, there is eave. I can imaging the results- ugly fascia -my husband is a perfectionism, He will be definitely mad Re: Are these gaps- between the frame & slab) reasonable? 10Feb 02, 2015 12:36 pm Yes you are right Stewie, internal stairs, ground floor split into 3 levels, garage 170mm step down, front 110mm step down. the stair in the picture is in the middle of the hallway-enter into the rear part of the house. Re: Are these gaps- between the frame & slab) reasonable? 11Feb 02, 2015 8:02 pm We asked the questions very politly to the builder, and we got pragraphs of warnings telling us not to enter the site without the site supervisor. All rubbish! As to the problems, their answer is: not questioning until complete, they will rectify I Re: Are these gaps- between the frame & slab) reasonable? 12Feb 02, 2015 8:07 pm [quote="Stewie D"]Go down to the IMG link and click on the line...
Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The concreter is a little short with the stairs but he still would have had to allow a gap of 20mm or so anyway. The framers should have simply brought the timber frame closer to the stairs. Is it a consistent gap all the way up ? What's the industry solutions ?laying a brick wall to the same height? Pouring concrete in th gap? Put some wood support? Which one is strongest and less damage? Re: Are these gaps- between the frame & slab) reasonable? 13Feb 02, 2015 8:10 pm building-expert Framers would be reluctant to change set out measurements to suit the slab because it will cause problems with setout of roof framing or trusses. Cutting back slab is not an option because more than likely reinforcing steel will become exposed. Sensible option would be to build out wall but then it will make your eave lining inconsistent or if there is no eave lining it will miss fascia altogether. It seems there are no pretty solutions here. The best is adjust the frame to the slab. Re: Are these gaps- between the frame & slab) reasonable? 14Oct 15, 2019 8:48 pm blackbeauty building-expert Framers would be reluctant to change set out measurements to suit the slab because it will cause problems with setout of roof framing or trusses. Cutting back slab is not an option because more than likely reinforcing steel will become exposed. Sensible option would be to build out wall but then it will make your eave lining inconsistent or if there is no eave lining it will miss fascia altogether. It seems there are no pretty solutions here. The best is adjust the frame to the slab. Blackbeauty, what happened in the end here? Which builder was this? Building Standards; Getting It Right! Hi, sorry if this is the wrong place - Iām new to the property/building journey (trying to buy my first home) so not sure where/who to go with these sorts of… 0 19158 This is 100% true. You can not hang anything on steel frames. very frustrating 8 8021 |