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cag57 · Apr 30, 2019 2:56 pm

What's the benefits of doing it this way? Compared to traditional double brick

gablesrocks · Apr 30, 2019 3:03 pm

cag57 I have huge huge thermally broken double glazed windows and sliding doors that are 100mm and 150mm wide/ thick with argon gas. (eg. windows are 3m by 3m and sliding door is 3m high by 4.2m) So I am using that method for strength and cater for wider window frames. I am still having brick veneer in certain portions. In some cases they are a typical solid wall and another there will be a cavity wall (no veneer here).

gablesrocks · Apr 30, 2019 3:06 pm

alexp79 you really need to look at yourself and your responses. You either have your knickers in a twist because this is a good project or you seriously have a problem. Whatever it is get over it! I have never had to do this to anyone but enough mate!

cag57 · Apr 30, 2019 3:14 pm

Does doing it with a cavity have any benefits with movement ?

I'm looking to build later this year but went off double brick due to movement and cracks appearing in render. I know some say if the foundation is right you won't get cracks, but having had 2 double brick homes both develop cracks I'm not sure

alexp79 · Apr 30, 2019 3:28 pm

Nothing is wrong with my tone or with myself enquiring about confusing usage of building terminology (as you have seen above, other people get confused too).

Apologies if I put it wrong, but, indeed, terminology is quite confusing as double brick (at least in Australia) generally means cavity structural walls without any framing support.

We also have term for solid brick construction, which I believe, is more relevant to your case.
In your case, we are still talking about timber framed home with solid brick veneer.

Your build certainly looks good and is unique mix of various construction methods and approaches, which I believe is quite to helpful for anyone on that forum.

gogo65 · Apr 30, 2019 3:46 pm

Alexp79, I have to agree with others, anyone can google and become an expert,

Have a look at this webpage http://www.build.com.au/bricks
It clearly states ‘Solid brick homes have a double layer of brick with a layer of foam insulation in between’, so this is an Australian website saying the oppposite to what your google search showed.
GR’s photos clearly show in parts 2 rows of bricks, whether they are double brick or solid brick is irrelevant, if it confuses you, ask questions, dont come on here and saying someone is wrong or incorrect as it comes across as arrogant, and not the purpose of this forum.
You’ve previously stated on another post that you are not an expert, but it is very clear you like to research and question everyone and everything (even to the point of questioning GR’s builder!).
Maybe you should talk about your own build (I note you don’t have a thread for your build) and provide information about the thermal benefits, building methods etc and then people can ask you questions if they want.

gablesrocks · Apr 30, 2019 3:56 pm

I have to agree with gogo65. People, builders and public put in a lot of money to build and they certainly don't want to be treated in this way. Your comments raise more issues for many people and they then get confused and have to ask questions around whether they are going the right way.

alexp79 · Apr 30, 2019 3:58 pm

gogo65

Alexp79, I have to agree with others, anyone can google and become an expert,

Have a look at this webpage http://www.build.com.au/bricks
It clearly states ‘Solid brick homes have a double layer of brick with a layer of foam insulation in between’, so this is an Australian website saying the oppposite to what your google search showed.
GR’s photos clearly show in parts 2 rows of bricks, whether they are double brick or solid brick is irrelevant, if it confuses you, ask questions, dont come on here and saying someone is wrong or incorrect as it comes across as arrogant, and not the purpose of this forum.
You’ve previously stated on another post that you are not an expert, but it is very clear you like to research and question everyone and everything (even to the point of questioning GR’s builder!).
Maybe you should talk about your own build (I note you don’t have a thread for your build) and provide information about the thermal benefits, building methods etc and then people can ask you questions if they want.

Apologies if my seemed to be arrogant, they were certainly not intended to be so.

I do ask questions and like to question.

And yes, may be I will talk about my own build when I decide to do so.

I am stopping any comments on questions on this particular thread though.

SejaeD · Apr 30, 2019 5:28 pm

gablesrocks

@cag57 I have huge huge thermally broken double glazed windows and sliding doors that are 100mm and 150mm wide/ thick with argon gas. (eg. windows are 3m by 3m and sliding door is 3m high by 4.2m) So I am using that method for strength and cater for wider window frames. I am still having brick veneer in certain portions. In some cases they are a typical solid wall and another there will be a cavity wall (no veneer here).

Loving your build. its incredibly interesting!

It makes sense that you are using the second skin of bricks to effectively pack out your wider window frames. Great solution!

Please keep posting lots of photos and updates for us

SejaeD · Apr 30, 2019 5:31 pm

gablesrocks

I have to agree with gogo65. People, builders and public put in a lot of money to build and they certainly don't want to be treated in this way. Your comments raise more issues for many people and they then get confused and have to ask questions around whether they are going the right way.

With due respect, I can understand everyone jumping on Alex, but in his defence, I have been following him in a number of threads and I genuinely think that he is just trying to be helpful.

Anyway, lets all keep sharing our stories and supporting each other

mausam80 · Apr 30, 2019 5:33 pm

cag57

Does doing it with a cavity have any benefits with movement ?

I'm looking to build later this year but went off double brick due to movement and cracks appearing in render. I know some say if the foundation is right you won't get cracks, but having had 2 double brick homes both develop cracks I'm not sure

You said you went off double bricks - what method are you planning to go with?

cag57 · Apr 30, 2019 7:00 pm

Build will be brick but the method not decided yet. Been researching RBV.

mausam80 · Apr 30, 2019 7:54 pm

cag57

Build will be brick but the method not decided yet. Been researching RBV.

@cag57 - yeah RBV is a brilliant method to build with - just need someone experienced to manage it during the design and plan stage

hope you get someone equally interested in your project and vision - good luck!

vrehaan9 · Apr 30, 2019 8:04 pm

Bricks are non structural element in this build. We are doing double skin in some areas with cavity or not cavity where necessary for aesthetic purposes only. Hope this clears the air. Projects going well and hopefully will be finished with structure in the coming weeks. Thank you everyone for all the insights. It does help to double check and rethink again as this is not a standard off the shelf house. #rehaanbuilders #www.rehaanbuilders.com.au

cag57 · Apr 30, 2019 8:13 pm

Its certainly a unique build. Interesting to watch it develop

gablesrocks · Jun 13, 2019 11:19 pm

Scaffolding up, rendering completed today. We had a small delay as we were working on the feature elements on the facade however decisions made turned out for the better.

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Downstairs almost complete. We are looking at working upstairs next week.

amilelka · Jun 14, 2019 9:45 pm

That's looking great!

gablesrocks · Jun 14, 2019 11:53 pm

amilelka thanks. Sorry haven't posted in a while. The scaffolding is up so can't show much at the moment.

TheGodwit · Jun 15, 2019 10:34 pm

Thanks for the photos and progress updates.

Couple of questions:

What exactly are we looking at there, with those rendered surfaces? Is that render over brick on the ground floor (photos 2,3,4), and render over Orangeboard for the first floor (photo 1).

Also, what was your experience with the Orangeboard. Any negatives surface? Was fire an issue?

Cheers and thanks
Arron

gablesrocks · Jun 15, 2019 11:35 pm

[quote="TheGodwit":1cnp4no8]Thanks for the photos and progress updates.

Couple of questions:

What exactly are we looking at there, with those rendered surfaces? Is that render over brick on the ground floor (photos 2,3,4), and render over Orangeboard for the first floor (photo 1).

Also, what was your experience with the Orangeboard. Any negatives surface? Was fire an issue?

Cheers and thanks
Arron[/quote:1cnp4no8]

TheGodwit

All the photos above are orangeboard. Photo below is brick. We have a mixture of bricks and orangeboard downstairs.

As for negatives with orangeboard - I went onsite today, the material is very strong. I gave it a shake and a few knocks - and once rendered it's pretty solid. Hard to tell if it's orangeboard or bricks until you give it a few knocks. Fire isn't an issue. It's BAL rated (I think) and if there is a negative - just felt like I was knocking on a door when I gave it a couple of knocks - insulation wise - I don't have to buy any insulation for the wall so it saved me some money and it didn't feel as cold as bricks when I touched it.

In the front wall for the garage I have bricks as cars can damage orangeboard. Having said this if a car crashes into bricks there isn't much difference between bricks and orangeboard 😂

I am pleased with the results.

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