Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Aug 09, 2018 10:31 pm Hi, Where do you put your NBN connection box in your house. Typically builder just put it in the garage and all network point terminates there too. I understand if your house is in a new housing estate, typically you will get NBN FTTP ie fibre to premises. So you get a rather large connection box and battery box. Hence garage is the perfect spot even though is kind of inconvenient if you need check it out. But if you are Knock down rebuild in established suburb, very likely you will get NBN HFC your connection box inside the house it basically a tiny little box smaller than most routers. Would you put that in your garage ? Re: NBN point in your new house. 2Aug 09, 2018 10:37 pm We're in a HFC-based NBN area planning to KDR in 6 months. Current old property has that very same modem you speak in a single point in the house (via overhead cable). Come time for new build, I'm thinking the same thing. Not only are we unsure of when and how the "NBN" HFC cable will be removed from overhead before demolition, but how we engage NBN Co to reconnect us, but this time via underground pit. Then from said pit, do we do a comms cabinet in the garage, or just a point in the house. No one at our builder has a clue about this. Re: NBN point in your new house. 3Aug 09, 2018 10:41 pm To remove your existing NBN HFC overhead cable. You call NBN. They will charge you $315 to do this.. After building . just contact NBN to connect. But you need to plan where your NBN point will be in the house. And my situation is my builder just said in the garage.. I'm thinking to get my builder to change it. Since I don't like it to be in the garage. Re: NBN point in your new house. 4Aug 09, 2018 10:44 pm Probably I should clarify.. NBN will charge you $315 and you pray they do turn up before you demolition guys comes in. I waited for 5-6 week!. If you google there are people saying they don't turn up.. In my case they did not turn up so my demo. guys cut the wire and then I asked NBN for a refund. But I could just be unlucky! Re: NBN point in your new house. 5Aug 09, 2018 10:46 pm Did you get the refund and/or were you told off for having the demo people do it? Re: NBN point in your new house. 6Aug 09, 2018 11:07 pm Depends how you are intending to distribute the connection throughout the home. I'd suggest you do some reading here: https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/le ... hfc-3.html https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/choosing_ ... _equipment https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/structured_home_cabling Even if you're just going to connect the NBN modem straight into a single wireless router/AP rather than getting structured cabling (e.g. Cat 6 Ethernet) done as part of the build, the garage is unlikely to be ideally positioned for optimising signal strength in the rooms where you want it. Re: NBN point in your new house. 7Aug 10, 2018 9:14 am Cheltsider Did you get the refund and/or were you told off for having the demo people do it? Long story short yes I did get the refund. However, who knows when I want to get reconnected they may charge me.. So sounds like you either pay now or pay later. Will sort it out when the time comes. Re: NBN point in your new house. 8Aug 10, 2018 9:16 am iTool Depends how you are intending to distribute the connection throughout the home. I'd suggest you do some reading here: https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/le ... hfc-3.html https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/choosing_ ... _equipment https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/structured_home_cabling Even if you're just going to connect the NBN modem straight into a single wireless router/AP rather than getting structured cabling (e.g. Cat 6 Ethernet) done as part of the build, the garage is unlikely to be ideally positioned for optimising signal strength in the rooms where you want it. Yes I understand all this. I just wonder those with HFC , has anyone put it in the garage. Re: NBN point in your new house. 10Aug 10, 2018 10:52 am reaver What do you find inconvenient with having the NBN box in the garage? Ours is under the stairs and I have not needed to access it since it was installed over 2 years ago. NBN HFC have outages often (but should be fixed in future) so rather not go to garage to look if the 4 lights on the NTD is solid or not. Also the network switch will also need to be in garage then. etc... So if I need to troubleshoot anything I have to go to the garage. I thought then since HFC inside connection box is so tiny... Don't feel the need for it to be put in garage. I have a small "store room" inside the house. around 800mm wide and 400mm dept with cavity sliding door. I initially said I want to put my NBN point and patch panel in there, NVR etc... He said standard is in garage and it will get too hot since he based his assessment on NBN FTTP tech. where you get 2 relatively large internal boxes and NBN don't recommend you to put in a cupboard. But I'm thinking to tell my builder I still want it in my store room. Re: NBN point in your new house. 11Aug 10, 2018 11:35 am MyFirst reaver What do you find inconvenient with having the NBN box in the garage? Ours is under the stairs and I have not needed to access it since it was installed over 2 years ago. NBN HFC have outages often (but should be fixed in future) so rather not go to garage to look if the 4 lights on the NTD is solid or not. Also the network switch will also need to be in garage then. etc... So if I need to troubleshoot anything I have to go to the garage. I thought then since HFC inside connection box is so tiny... Don't feel the need for it to be put in garage. I have a small "store room" inside the house. around 800mm wide and 400mm dept with cavity sliding door. I initially said I want to put my NBN point and patch panel in there, NVR etc... He said standard is in garage and it will get too hot since he based his assessment on NBN FTTP tech. where you get 2 relatively large internal boxes and NBN don't recommend you to put in a cupboard. But I'm thinking to tell my builder I still want it in my store room. There's your answer, if you want it in a location that's conveniently accessible for you then go for it. At the worst case you can leave the door slightly open to let air in. Personally I wouldn't mind walking to garage to check the connection box every now and then. We're going to do a KDR soon and will probably have the connection box in the garage and have a cat6 run to the family room for the wifi router. I initially wanted the connection box in the storage room under the stairs but decided that I don't want to be moving stuff around just to get to it. We have FTTP in our current place and I'm setting my expectations really low since our new place has had HFC "under construction" since forever. Re: NBN point in your new house. 12Aug 10, 2018 11:42 am reaver MyFirst reaver What do you find inconvenient with having the NBN box in the garage? Ours is under the stairs and I have not needed to access it since it was installed over 2 years ago. NBN HFC have outages often (but should be fixed in future) so rather not go to garage to look if the 4 lights on the NTD is solid or not. Also the network switch will also need to be in garage then. etc... So if I need to troubleshoot anything I have to go to the garage. I thought then since HFC inside connection box is so tiny... Don't feel the need for it to be put in garage. I have a small "store room" inside the house. around 800mm wide and 400mm dept with cavity sliding door. I initially said I want to put my NBN point and patch panel in there, NVR etc... He said standard is in garage and it will get too hot since he based his assessment on NBN FTTP tech. where you get 2 relatively large internal boxes and NBN don't recommend you to put in a cupboard. But I'm thinking to tell my builder I still want it in my store room. There's your answer, if you want it in a location that's conveniently accessible for you then go for it. At the worst case you can leave the door slightly open to let air in. Personally I wouldn't mind walking to garage to check the connection box every now and then. We're going to do a KDR soon and will probably have the connection box in the garage and have a cat6 run to the family room for the wifi router. I initially wanted the connection box in the storage room under the stairs but decided that I don't want to be moving stuff around just to get to it. We have FTTP in our current place and I'm setting my expectations really low since our new place has had HFC "under construction" since forever. NBNco has stopped doing new HFC connection since early this year... And will continue again late this year. They are taking this time to fixed up the HFC network. When I initially got HFC connected into my current house last year it was quite a shock, every 2nd day you get outage. but slowly it improves. I assume you will have 2 cat 6 cables run to the family room. One for the wifi router and one to return from the router back to your garage. Assuming you have more other data points else where in the house. Re: NBN point in your new house. 13Aug 10, 2018 12:01 pm I thought NBN resumed the HFC rollout in the middle of this year. I've avoided reading up on the NBN since they started their MTM strategy. Not sure what you mean about the 2 cables but there will be one data point in the garage and one in the family room which means there will be only one Cat6 cable running between those two points. I'm not considering additional data points at this stage because I find that wifi works well for our needs. Streaming, gaming and running a smart hub on wifi works just fine. Re: NBN point in your new house. 14Aug 10, 2018 12:11 pm reaver I thought NBN resumed the HFC rollout in the middle of this year. I've avoided reading up on the NBN since they started their MTM strategy. Not sure what you mean about the 2 cables but there will be one data point in the garage and one in the family room which means there will be only one Cat6 cable running between those two points. I'm not considering additional data points at this stage because I find that wifi works well for our needs. Streaming, gaming and running a smart hub on wifi works just ok if you are not considering additional data points for other parts of you house, then you can ignore what I said. If your router is in the family room , you will need to run another data point back to your NBN point garage , so that other data points can have access to the router network. (Assuming your other data points terminate in the garage. ) . (or course they are other work arounds but I'm just mentioning the standard) This doesn't apply to you since you are solely using wifi for all other needs. Re: NBN point in your new house. 15Sep 12, 2018 11:20 am MyFirst Probably I should clarify.. NBN will charge you $315 and you pray they do turn up before you demolition guys comes in. I waited for 5-6 week!. If you google there are people saying they don't turn up.. In my case they did not turn up so my demo. guys cut the wire and then I asked NBN for a refund. But I could just be unlucky! After weeks, they finally send me a quote and it's for $1,056!!!! To cut a HFC cable and update their internal records. Trying to get the assigned Case Manager on the phone to ask "WTF?" Re: NBN point in your new house. 16Feb 17, 2019 7:47 am Cheltsider MyFirst Probably I should clarify.. NBN will charge you $315 and you pray they do turn up before you demolition guys comes in. I waited for 5-6 week!. If you google there are people saying they don't turn up.. In my case they did not turn up so my demo. guys cut the wire and then I asked NBN for a refund. But I could just be unlucky! After weeks, they finally send me a quote and it's for $1,056!!!! To cut a HFC cable and update their internal records. Trying to get the assigned Case Manager on the phone to ask "WTF?" How did you go with this? Did you go ahead with the official disconnection from NBN or cut it yourself? I am now in the same process of knocking down and NBN has quoted me the exact same price $1056. Re: NBN point in your new house. 17Feb 19, 2019 12:16 am DomoKB Cheltsider MyFirst Probably I should clarify.. NBN will charge you $315 and you pray they do turn up before you demolition guys comes in. I waited for 5-6 week!. If you google there are people saying they don't turn up.. In my case they did not turn up so my demo. guys cut the wire and then I asked NBN for a refund. But I could just be unlucky! After weeks, they finally send me a quote and it's for $1,056!!!! To cut a HFC cable and update their internal records. Trying to get the assigned Case Manager on the phone to ask "WTF?" How did you go with this? Did you go ahead with the official disconnection from NBN or cut it yourself? I am now in the same process of knocking down and NBN has quoted me the exact same price $1056. Yep, bit the bullet. Purely because I need to re-engage them to re-establish us, of which I plan to have them convert us to underground pit and not aerial restoration. It'll be a new house with all services underground, so im not going to accept aerial, despite itll cost me again. Re: NBN point in your new house. 18Feb 19, 2019 8:40 pm Cheltsider DomoKB Cheltsider After weeks, they finally send me a quote and it's for $1,056!!!! To cut a HFC cable and update their internal records. Trying to get the assigned Case Manager on the phone to ask "WTF?" How did you go with this? Did you go ahead with the official disconnection from NBN or cut it yourself? I am now in the same process of knocking down and NBN has quoted me the exact same price $1056. Yep, bit the bullet. Purely because I need to re-engage them to re-establish us, of which I plan to have them convert us to underground pit and not aerial restoration. It'll be a new house with all services underground, so im not going to accept aerial, despite itll cost me again. Yea I'm thinking the same too, will need the re-connection done once the house is built. You don't know down the line there might be more costs involved if it wasn't done properly, best to prevent that situation. Re: NBN point in your new house. 19Feb 19, 2019 8:55 pm DomoKB Yea I'm thinking the same too, will need the re-connection done once the house is built. You don't know down the line there might be more costs involved if it wasn't done properly, best to prevent that situation. In my case there will be as I won't accept aerial for the new house, but yeah, if they turn around and act like they don't know what I'm talking about, I have quotes, job numbers, written evidence in email, etc. Re: NBN point in your new house. 20May 09, 2019 7:46 am Hi Cheltsider, How did you go with the NBN installation? I am at Tender stage with my builder and they're guaranteeing that they will do the lead-in from the pole to the external side of my house for PCD and then on to the garage for the NTD. I live in the HFC - Aerial Lead-in area. I am still not convinced that they know what they're talking about. Sigh Building Standards; Getting It Right! Hi All, We have a fall from road to garage front. 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