Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Oct 13, 2017 8:11 am Hi all, We are building a house in Melbourne (West - Wyndham Council) and the garage setback is supposed to be 5.5 meters from the street (eaves can encroach this) As our block is angled at the front, I'm not sure if the setback has been calculated correctly, as now our garage sits 5.9 meters from the front (image below). Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Can someone with more knowledge regarding this help out. Re: Help.. Front setback on an angled block 2Oct 13, 2017 8:50 am baronx Hi all, We are building a house in Melbourne (West - Wyndham Council) and the garage setback is supposed to be 5.5 meters from the street (eaves can encroach this) As our block is angled at the front, I'm not sure if the setback has been calculated correctly, as now our garage sits 5.9 meters from the front (image below). Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Can someone with more knowledge regarding this help out. You can ask your council for permission to have a different setback. We did and they said yes. - View my blog at www.waldorfgrangebuild.wordpress.com Re: Help.. Front setback on an angled block 3Oct 13, 2017 10:54 am Waldorf_Grange_Build You can ask your council for permission to have a different setback. We did and they said yes. I did check on that with the builder and they said it'll be us taking that up with the council and would delay the build. We are not too fussed about 5.5 meters, but not sure if what they have calculated in the drawing is correct as the garage is now sitting at around 5.9 meters. Re: Help.. Front setback on an angled block 4Oct 13, 2017 3:10 pm Hope I can explain this well... Note that the setback (council measurment) is measured perpendicular from the relevant boundary, as correctly indicated by the '5500 min' annotation on your plan. The setout (builder measurement) is not necessarily calculated at the same reference angle - and in your case, it isn't (on your plan the setback is running at an oblique angle to 'project north'). This is perfectly normal - the builder and surveyor are working to a reference datum and orientation, and for their ease (and to help prevent errors on the ground) they are basing their setout measurements to that datum. This is the line shown by the '5876 min setout' on your plan. The key is that the relevant setback is not square-on to your reference plane, and so setout measurements for your plan will be different from the council setback, to get to the same point. The key part is this: they are both showing the same point as a distance from your front boundary, but they are showing this distance as measured at different angles. Without pulling out the trigonometry, the measurements indicated look about right considering the apparent angle - measuring at any angle other than perpendicular will produce a larger setback measurement than 5500mm, even though at the closest point the perpendicular distance is still 5500mm. Hope I've explained that well enough for you. It means that on the ground, the builder will have to measure 5876mm back from the boundary using his reference direction in order to make sure that that point will be 5500mm back from the boundary in the council direction (perpendicular to the boundary). Really hope that makes sense.... it can be a difficult concept to get across. Re: Help.. Front setback on an angled block 5Oct 13, 2017 6:36 pm baronx Waldorf_Grange_Build You can ask your council for permission to have a different setback. We did and they said yes. I did check on that with the builder and they said it'll be us taking that up with the council and would delay the build. We are not too fussed about 5.5 meters, but not sure if what they have calculated in the drawing is correct as the garage is now sitting at around 5.9 meters. Our builder sorted this out for us with the developer in the estate so we didn’t have to call the council ourselves. - View my blog at www.waldorfgrangebuild.wordpress.com Re: Help.. Front setback on an angled block 6Oct 14, 2017 10:21 pm algernon Hope I can explain this well... Note that the setback (council measurment) is measured perpendicular from the relevant boundary, as correctly indicated by the '5500 min' annotation on your plan. The setout (builder measurement) is not necessarily calculated at the same reference angle - and in your case, it isn't (on your plan the setback is running at an oblique angle to 'project north'). This is perfectly normal - the builder and surveyor are working to a reference datum and orientation, and for their ease (and to help prevent errors on the ground) they are basing their setout measurements to that datum. This is the line shown by the '5876 min setout' on your plan. Thanks algernon for taking the time explaining it so well. It makes sense why they would use the measurements against the orientation. Our next door neighbor has a 4.4m setback as his house is massive & is built upto the 3m easement at the back. I'll see if our builder is willing to apply for a reduction to the setback, but we've got around 10 metes at the back, so not sure how that would go down. Thanks Draftroom that definitely helps a heap. We are still at the very early stage of planning to see what kind of house would fit on our plot. While we are on a… 3 15779 Hi All, see above image. 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