Building A New House
Nov 25, 2018 10:53 pm
Hi all, we are planning to build a house in Victoria (Melbourne West) and have spent a year planning the build with our builder - UrbanEdge. Now at contract we have been told that we have just one option for surveyor and if we don't go with their preferred surveyor, then we can't build with them.
Given the amendments to the building act which prohibits builders from nominating private surveyors for domestic projects, this kind of behavior doesn't help build any confidence towards our preferred builder.
What are our options here ? Clearly we can refuse to sign on the dotted line, but we've invested heavily with them (time & money) and would like to somehow make this work.
Re: Builder won't let us nominate our surveyor (Victoria)2
Nov 26, 2018 9:21 am
I am currently halfway though building with Urban Edge. They said the same to me, but when I pushed it and pointed out the legalities they changed their tune a bit and said that I could use another one, but it would impact build times etc as they have an agreement and processes with Group 4, and if I use my own they would have to stop the build each time which would add to the contract time etc etc etc. I still had to sign a form appointing Group 4
Group 4 seem to be fairly reputable (and do most of the of the volume builders), so I just gave in, as I was planning to get my own private building inspector anyway.... who check much more than the surveyor
My KDR - https://grey144.blogspot.com.au/
Re: Builder won't let us nominate our surveyor (Victoria)3
Nov 26, 2018 10:29 am
brokenstick Thanks a lot for your reply. It's great to be in touch with someone whose gone through the same issues..
I think we'll be pushing back as their quotes & timelines should have factored the current building act. We are building the Autern 54 and given the size & cost of the build, I won't be comfortable with them going with their preferred option.
Did you manage to negotiate the cost of delays ? We were initially told that they are flexible and it can be changed based on the new properties rental valuation. But when we provided a rental valuation of $500, we were told that management doesn't agree and it will stay at $260 per week. I've seen some of their build go on for 2 years and that's another worry.
Re: Builder won't let us nominate our surveyor (Victoria)4
Nov 26, 2018 12:16 pm
If I am building again I will go for my own surveyor. The surveyor they nominate do not do any inspection and just say ok to everything. Even in cases where there is no compliance.
The builders will try to say it will increse build time and so on..which means they go to next stage without fixing the issues. Some they never fix.
Independant inspector report is not binding on builder. They say it is compliant.
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Nov 26, 2018 3:03 pm
No we didn't change the cost of delays. Fortunately we seem to be on track to finish within our build period of almost a year.
I found them to be quite flexible though, they changed quite a few other clauses I wasn't happy with or which I believed needed further information or clarification.
I also found their drawings and documents to very good - I have a bit of a construction background and went though everything with a fine tooth comb and found very few errors/ omissions (well that we we have picked up during construction so far, touch wood!)
My KDR - https://grey144.blogspot.com.au/
Re: Builder won't let us nominate our surveyor (Victoria)6
Nov 28, 2018 11:18 am
This keeps getting better & better as I dig more into it; apparently UrbanEdge are within their rights to bypass the amendments to the building act & enforce the recommendation of a building surveyor.
https://www.accc.gov.au/public-register ... 291-n99292
As the notification is 'Under consideration', it means that ACCC has no objections to it.
What use is the building act when builders can find ways to game the system.
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