Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Nov 18, 2015 10:12 am We're at engineering stage of a custom build, and because the OH has poor visualisation skills, we're thinking of getting the kitchen / bathrooms mocked up in 3D so he can see colours etc. We have walked through approx. 600 display homes, but never mind... Approx how much did they cost to have done? Did you use an online company? can you recommend someone? Our designer does 3Ds, but they are quite expensive. I have searched on here for threads however clearly am not using the right keywords! Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 2Nov 18, 2015 11:07 am One term for it is achitectural visualisation, or archviz, but I haven't seen many people get it done for interiors on homeone. I did some myself for our house that's under construction now. One of the troubles is that for interiors in particular it's hard to get a realistic feel down to the level of making colour selections. Then if you're getting someone to do it for you, it gets hard to try out lots of different things, which is the main benefit in doing it in the first place. I found the best use of the 3D models was in tweaking the shape of details, for example the line along which a dropped celing finishes, and the shape and proportion of bulkheads. You can see the effect of light vs dark cabinets, but I wouldn't trust it too much right down to matching a specific finish. For specific colours, it's hard to go past seeing it in a display home In the end, I've done upwards of a hundred 3D renders of our place, over different variations of decisions inside and outside, and it has been quite helpful. It does have it's limits though. Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 3Nov 18, 2015 11:28 am Thanks OneJohn. I've seen a few of yours (I think?) that you've done for someone else on here, and spatially they were great. Agree about seeing colours in display homes etc, but very hard when no display home has quite the right colour palate etc. I think in the kitchen it will be handy, as we do have bulkheads and it would be good to know how they sit, and then just give OH a feel for the colours. Definitely wish I was handier; have tried some of the online software and tools but it takes so long, and then looks.. well, average! Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 4Nov 19, 2015 6:02 pm 3D renders for the interior were included from our architect. They were straightforward renders though which helped us get a better picture of the structure more than anything. I'm not sure if I would purchase if it was a separate fee. Very useful for the outside though to settle on window shapes and sizes. As OneJohn said don't bother for finishes. With a little experience of a friend working in this area, they are choosing from a suite of finishes in Archicad or similar or would do so for a residential design. It won't match exactly so better to use images online to see the colours. It does take a leap of faith. We used the outside render a lot to get the windows right at the front (then changed them on the fly at the last minute anyway.. Ha ha). For colours I think it wouldn't be so accurate. I would use it for little structural decisions, we had a few like doors/walls and it was helpful with that. Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 5Nov 20, 2015 10:13 am Thanks Leksie. I think you're both right - with the flat colour perspective, doesn't sound like it will truly reflect what it looks like. I have an idea book where all of the colour selections are going (pictures of rooms that look similar to what we're doing) plus samples of everything as well. OH is just going to have to trust in me I think! Received the quote back, and it is quite $$ for internal 3Ds, so don't think we'll go ahead. 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 6Nov 25, 2015 5:46 am PVBuild Thanks Leksie. I think you're both right - with the flat colour perspective, doesn't sound like it will truly reflect what it looks like. I have an idea book where all of the colour selections are going (pictures of rooms that look similar to what we're doing) plus samples of everything as well. OH is just going to have to trust in me I think! Received the quote back, and it is quite $$ for internal 3Ds, so don't think we'll go ahead. Yeah save the $.. You're gonna need them . My husband has an issue visualising too, they did help but if it was extra wouldn't have been worth it and for us it was more about the the structure for the visuals. Even when we did see it we were still somehow surprised with some aspects.. If you're not the architect you can never imagine it exactly which is part of the fun I guess.. Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 7Dec 03, 2015 9:21 am Decided to go front facade render only, and I cleverly (cough) drew up my kitchen via hand to show OH. It may be a bit hard to see as it's done in pencil. http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Gov45/899d7fa4-a037-4e35-974d-1e499f8e19e7_zpsobosgfpd.jpg Have also played around with facades... see attached. You wouldn't believe how much time this takes finding the right colours / bricks / shapes, have done about 3 - 4 of these and now the lounge room floor is covered in tiny bits of paper trimmings. http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Gov45/12307588_10153164367257539_5546889143507959247_o_zpsuln23y9x.jpg Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 8Dec 03, 2015 9:40 am You would probably get a better idea by doing some of that in a program like photoshop or a free alternative. Even the kitchen in 2D elevations coloured to suit would give you a very good idea. Stewie Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 9Dec 03, 2015 9:52 am Stewie I suck at using the programs - have tried numerous ones but it's far quicker for me to draw them out by hand. The above kitchen has at least given the better half a good idea of what it should look like, so he's happy. Well, relatively. Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 10Dec 03, 2015 2:47 pm Ah OK. I guess it doesn't matter how you achieve it - CAD, Photoshop, free apps or the old paper and pencil. If you can help someone else visualise how it is going to look and they have a better understanding of the end product, then that's all that really matters. Stewie Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 11Dec 03, 2015 5:23 pm I'd love to be able to use the software, but have tried Sketchup, Roomplanner, a few other online bits and pieces and just don't seem to have the tenacity to stay the course and figure out the tricky bits. Pencil it is! 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 12Dec 03, 2015 5:41 pm Similar kitchen layout as mine will be. I am not doing double oven but having a microwave above oven. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Build thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=81011 Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 13Dec 03, 2015 6:53 pm Wow!!! Great job PVBuild I've used PhotoShop for 20 years and still spent HOURS doing 2D mockup renders of my house. I love seeing organic hand drawn plans and designs ... Summat spesh about them Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 14Dec 03, 2015 7:16 pm Love it, Charley. You going to use your window near the sink as a handout point to the BBQ-er? Our BBQ is just to the right, so having a sliding window + flyscreen there. Got the idea off Decka on here. TomCat, reckon I might turn all my drawings into a book just to document our process after we (eventually) finish the build. Have iterated about... at least 25 variations of the plan, and everything done by hand. Faster and easier for me, and keeps me occupied whilst the OH watches gory tv series... Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 15Dec 03, 2015 7:19 pm No I can't on mine. Land size does not permit for alfresco off kitchen. I have a long alfresco off the family instead. Build thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=81011 Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 16Dec 03, 2015 7:21 pm Your drawing is very good, make sure you have the island bench far enough way so you can get dishwasher door open. Build thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=81011 Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 17Dec 03, 2015 7:27 pm Ah bugger. Yep based on that drawing I've moved the dishwasher to the actual island - opposite the sink & dishwasher. The distance of the original spot is 1m, but the gap between bench and island is 130cm, so heaps more space. Not ideal for all but works for us Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 18Dec 03, 2015 7:38 pm My rubbish bin drawer is at that end of the island. It's such a great layout, so flexible and I wouldn't like a kitchen without a window, be too dark. Build thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=81011 Re: 3D Internal drawings - were they worth it? 20Dec 04, 2015 8:01 am Use Google sketchup to do 3d modelling very good software and it is free. At first I thought it is complicated to use but it wasn't. All you have to do is draw the top view and use the pull function to turn it into 3d. We hired Darbecca to do every stage inspection, and I strongly recommend them to anyone that asks me. They were amazing. Thorough reports with photos at every stage,… 6 7083 Thanks very much! 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