Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Site works saga 3Jun 25, 2015 7:57 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Site works saga 6Jun 26, 2015 11:15 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Site works saga 7Jun 26, 2015 12:34 pm As the contract has to be signed within 14 days or the price is up for review do you think I should sign it? It's estimated around 13k for site works in an estate with a class soil StructuralBIMGuy Aveley22 No site inspection or anything as my block isn't titled yet? Yep thats generally SALESMANS speak,for it isnt our fault we cant go to the site yet, :: as if the site will magically appear on the day the titles are approved? Sometimes some builders count on delays as the Cost increases that you cop will always be someone elses fault... go figure I could write a book on the things they dont tell you.... Re: Site works saga 8Jun 26, 2015 12:49 pm No I would not sign It..Why 1. You have signed at the top of the market..answer this how did Selections go,did your changes increase your pricing dramatically, can you handle another price increase or are you stretched financially? 2. Economists, Banks and Building Experts will tell you building prices are coming down from record high prices..last year. 3. Threatening a price increase is standard industry practice to flush clients forward into signing contracts 4. Chances are you will cop a price increase either way..dont ask the SALESMAN ask the GM to put it in Writing in the Contract 5. Because of all the above ... I would think that you would be in a position to negotiate a better deal elsewhere...I would call their bluff, but hey thats just me. Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Site works saga 9Jun 26, 2015 1:37 pm StructuralBIMGuy No I would not sign It..Why 1. You have signed at the top of the market..answer this how did Selections go,did your changes increase your pricing dramatically, can you handle another price increase or are you stretched financially? 2. Economists, Banks and Building Experts will tell you building prices are coming down from record high prices..last year. 3. Threatening a price increase is standard industry practice to flush clients forward into signing contracts 4. Chances are you will cop a price increase either way..dont ask the SALESMAN ask the GM to put it in Writing in the Contract 5. Because of all the above ... I would think that you would be in a position to negotiate a better deal elsewhere...I would call their bluff, but hey thats just me. I dont know even where to start....while approximately 20% of the comments in this post are somewhat factual I would reccomend the OP weigh up their options and if it the package they REALLY want, lock it in. Otherwise just keep looking. Dont stress yourself about price increases. They happen irrespective and you can expect more costs to pop us throughout your journey. If youre budgeting at capacity, i would recomend you scale back your expectations and budget to find options that allow you to absorb forseeable costs (like price increases) and unforeseeable costs (like excess rock removals etc). Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Re: Site works saga 10Jun 27, 2015 10:29 am Ponzu Otherwise just keep looking. Dont stress yourself about price increases. They happen irrespective and you can expect more costs to pop us throughout your journey. Thats nonsense, the client is signing a fixed price contract! Ponzu If youre budgeting at capacity, i would recomend you scale back your expectations and budget to find options that allow you to absorb forseeable costs (like price increases) and unforeseeable costs (like excess rock removals etc). Ha, Thats typical "Blame the clients" Top Excuses/jokes Ive heard are. 1. Scale back your expectations 2.We can take it out of the contract but we'll keep the profit magin 3.Engineering has come in and we (builders) are shocked 4. Bricks arent available for 3 months BTW.. the costs going up next week Etc,Etc Years ago..you wouldnt hear this unless you were on building sites talking to the clients...nowdays its on Homeone... enjoy the laugh NOT![S] Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Site works saga 12Jun 28, 2015 9:31 pm Aveley22 And if the contract they have given me needs to be signed at a certain date or the price is up for review surely this doesn't apply if the contract isn't right for me to sign anyway?! First of all the contract need to be right/correct Builders honor signed contracts, Firstly how quick can they commence on site? Generally in the fine print, if there are delays outside of the builders control ie taking possession, they can ask for additional costs, but they do have to justify them.HTH Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Site works saga 13Jun 29, 2015 4:11 pm StructuralBIMGuy Ponzu Otherwise just keep looking. Dont stress yourself about price increases. They happen irrespective and you can expect more costs to pop us throughout your journey. Thats nonsense, the client is signing a fixed price contract! Ponzu If youre budgeting at capacity, i would recomend you scale back your expectations and budget to find options that allow you to absorb forseeable costs (like price increases) and unforeseeable costs (like excess rock removals etc). Ha, Thats typical "Blame the clients" Top Excuses/jokes Ive heard are. 1. Scale back your expectations 2.We can take it out of the contract but we'll keep the profit magin 3.Engineering has come in and we (builders) are shocked 4. Bricks arent available for 3 months BTW.. the costs going up next week Etc,Etc Years ago..you wouldnt hear this unless you were on building sites talking to the clients...nowdays its on Homeone... enjoy the laugh NOT![S] Did you want me to point out for you where you're contradicting yourself again? Or are you ok to do that yourself this time Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Re: Site works saga 14Jun 29, 2015 4:14 pm Aveley22 Just an update. Upon further inspection of the contract the flumed vent in the laundry is gone, as is the flumed exhaust fan in the guest bathroom, it states the tiles may cost extra to lay as they are 450x450 and the addendum ceiling frame says timber but in the quote is says steel. All of these are in the contract that the builder is asking me to sign as they 'can't just make a whole new set of contracts and I can do it as a post contract change' why can't they just make another contract that is correct and then get me to sign it?! And if the contract they have given me needs to be signed at a certain date or the price is up for review surely this doesn't apply if the contract isn't right for me to sign anyway?! Yeah don't sign anything till it meets your requirements. Make a complaint. Post on product review. You'll get some action then. That's if you want to stay with this builder Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. MBA and HIA both have sub contract agreements, check them out 2 7301 I want to build a bigger driveway (without a nature strip) than has been approved under my CDC. I’ve also had a DA approved to build a deck. 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