Browse Forums Building A New House Re: What is a reasonable Builder's Margin? 6Jun 18, 2008 10:55 pm 'We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give.' - Winston Churchill Re: What is a reasonable Builder's Margin? 10Jun 19, 2008 1:04 pm Grandview 36 on Beautiful Bribie Site Start Dec 5th 2007 Projected completion May 12th 2008 NOPE Handover 24th June 2008 Moved in 11th July 2008 Wating on one final thing - Still - Oct 2009 Re: What is a reasonable Builder's Margin? 13Jun 19, 2008 9:31 pm We are loving living in our new home ! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.p ... &start=315 Re: What is a reasonable Builder's Margin? 15Apr 18, 2018 9:40 pm Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: What is a reasonable Builder's Margin? 16Apr 25, 2018 8:04 pm building-expert Casa2 says "I also wonder what happens if you upgrade from, say, a $100 toilet to a $900 toilet that requires the same amount of work to install. Does the builder just do it or charge you an additional $160 for the builder's margin, while doing no extra work? Of course there may be a fee for processing a variation." $900 toilet will take more time and care to install than a $100 toilet and is a higher risk for the builder. What if it gets chipped? You can't replace it for $100 I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Builder's margin is for the builder alone and no one else business. If your builder is disclosing margin it's stupidity, my red flags would come up, what else is he stupid about? All you need to do is shop around for the best deal, do your diligence and then make sure that builder delivers what is in the contract. If you are talking about margin on variations then 20-25% is common. It may seem too high too you but if you are the builder then it is way too low. Your builder will make more money by shutting down your variations and taking on another job. Many big project builders know that and will tell you upfront they won't allow variations. A building margin is part of the contract price therefore needs to be disclosed in the contract. 20-25% is a standard margin Re: What is a reasonable Builder's Margin? 17Apr 26, 2018 6:29 am That is not correct Dr.Buildwell Builders margin is commercial in confidence secret never to be disclosed. I have been a builder for 50 years and no one has asked me about my building margin, if they did I would have told them politely that it is none of their business. Variation margin is another matter and is included in the standard contract and disclosed as a means contract management. Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: What is a reasonable Builder's Margin? 18Apr 26, 2018 7:55 am It is easy enough to work out building margins and the whole process can be automated if you 1. Own copyright of the Design & Engineering 2. Produce Complete quantities and data from your Plans & Models 3. Use Build data ie L/m & m2 from plans and L/m,m2,m3 from 3D Models 4. Use the internet to gather material prices and Labour time constants Finally use G Sheets and python ( Ie online spreadsheets & set user settings to Private) ... Try as they may builders and their lawyers can't shut down the sharing of Info & data on the internet Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: What is a reasonable Builder's Margin? 19Apr 26, 2018 8:08 am building-expert That is not correct Dr.Buildwell Builders margin is commercial in confidence secret never to be disclosed. I have been a builder for 50 years and no one has asked me about my building margin, if they did I would have told them politely that it is none of their business. Variation margin is another matter and is included in the standard contract and disclosed as a means contract management. It is correct in a Victorian domestic building contract . In a commercial contract I'm not sure It's even more so correct in a cost plus contract where the owner agrees to pay for the builders costs plus an agreed upon margin. Re: What is a reasonable Builder's Margin? 20Apr 26, 2018 8:13 am Dr.Buildwell building-expert That is not correct Dr.Buildwell Builders margin is commercial in confidence secret never to be disclosed. I have been a builder for 50 years and no one has asked me about my building margin, if they did I would have told them politely that it is none of their business. Variation margin is another matter and is included in the standard contract and disclosed as a means contract management. It is correct in a Victorian domestic building contract . In a commercial contract I'm not sure Even more so on a cost plus contract where the owner agrees to pay all costs plus an agreed margin. Seems good to me. I've been told $4-5k/sqm is reasonable in Perth. 2 11166 Hi Mofflepop, I would recommend finding a building designer to prepare plans, they should design to your specified budget. The benefit is you can tender the project out… 9 20400 |